Flyertalk must take some of the blame for BA's onslaught
#1
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Flyertalk must take some of the blame for BA's onslaught
In facilitating avois and tier point accumulation beyond a sustainable level the forum has contributed to the decision to squeeze the benefits.
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
#3
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: UK
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Flyertalk must take some of the blame for BA's onslaught
Gosh, how many FT-guested people are in a BA lounge at any given time?
One?
"People on FT are to blame" - says poster with 638 FlyerTalk posts.
One?
"People on FT are to blame" - says poster with 638 FlyerTalk posts.
#4
Join Date: Aug 2002
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I'm sure that FlyerTalk members are a very small minority of BA's overall passenger base. However FT is invaluable for lazy programs like Aeroplan to find out any loopholes they haven't closed yet and quickly move the moment they are written about on here.
#6
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Maybe I can't work out why you would have someone you don't know as a guest.
And looking at the views the meetup threads get - hundreds of thousands - I think you'd be surprised how much more than one are in there.
Just stop it - before BA do something you'll regret.......again.
ps............640
#8
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Why do I get so annoyed by this? I mean really angry.
Maybe I can't work out why you would have someone you don't know as a guest.
And looking at the views the meetup threads get - hundreds of thousands - I think you'd be surprised how much more than one are in there.
Just stop it - before BA do something you'll regret.......again.
ps............640
Maybe I can't work out why you would have someone you don't know as a guest.
And looking at the views the meetup threads get - hundreds of thousands - I think you'd be surprised how much more than one are in there.
Just stop it - before BA do something you'll regret.......again.
ps............640
* Allow guesting someone on your flight (not neccersarilly PNR)
* Allow guesting of someone in your friends-and-family or HHA list
There's a few edge cases where people use a lounge as a meeting room with a supplier/customer on another flight, and it would be interesting if there's a solution which wouldn't penalise that.
#9
Join Date: Nov 2014
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In facilitating avois and tier point accumulation beyond a sustainable level the forum has contributed to the decision to squeeze the benefits.
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
But I don't think it's really a flyertalk problem per se, given that there are tonnes of blogs out there giving free advice on how to wring the system dry like candies for the lazy (essentially the viewerships that just go there and nowhere else) in exchange for their own benefit.
I don't complain though. FFPs like money will get devalued, unfortunately. But at least with FFPs when things start to go wrong with the economy they try to snatch the decreasing pool to shore up their finances.
Unlike money. There's almost always inflation on money.
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mostly UK
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Looking at the slow response times on Head for Points this morning his site must be generating loads of hits which will have a nice pleasing amount in his Adsense account. So he's definitely doing well out of these changes.
So will Internet Brands, FlyerTalk is packed with ads, unfortunately those who actually maintain this forum, the mods, don't see a penny of it as I believe they're all voluntary positions.
So will Internet Brands, FlyerTalk is packed with ads, unfortunately those who actually maintain this forum, the mods, don't see a penny of it as I believe they're all voluntary positions.
#11
Join Date: Jul 2014
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And the blame game continues...
To be honest, the guesting rules will probably be changed soon thanks to the new iPhone app. I suspect it will go to same flight or same family name.
I suspect the only thing FT had to do with the news was the LCYCW tier point change. BA probably didn't like us plebs only paying Ł750 to be on it
To be honest, the guesting rules will probably be changed soon thanks to the new iPhone app. I suspect it will go to same flight or same family name.
I suspect the only thing FT had to do with the news was the LCYCW tier point change. BA probably didn't like us plebs only paying Ł750 to be on it
#12
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#13
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,105
In facilitating avois and tier point accumulation beyond a sustainable level the forum has contributed to the decision to squeeze the benefits.
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
We can but hope that people now stop guesting people they don't know into the lounges to avoid draconian measures on that too.
The clues were there a year ago that spreading the word brings risks of saturation.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...yone-else.html
The reality is that 'guesting' is part and parcel of BAEC/OW membership and was not instigated by FT or BAEC members.
I have guested 'strangers' and I have also been guested as a 'stranger' and I have met some interesting people by doing so.
I suspect many 'guesters' check out their 'guestees' profile on FT before committing to accompany them into the lounge which at least gives them a little insight into their guest. Where I would draw the line is if someone approached me in an airport asking to be guested.
Maybe BA will look at this - who knows? - but as guesting is also a OW 'perk', BA may not have overall say over the issue.
#14
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: BA (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 1,256
That situation doesn't require any solution and ending the relevant guesting privileges would be entirely appropriate. In most such cases the reason the supplier/customer can't access the lounge in their own right is that their employer has an economy only travel policy, and in such a case why shouldn't they schlepp around in the main terminal area? It's all they have paid for. Employers who act as cheapskates should suck up any adverse consequences of their policies.
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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To explain my previous comment further I have nothing against Raffles raking in the ad revenue because of the effort he puts into his site. But I think Internet Brands almost get money for nothing due to the popularity of the BA forum, some of the ad revenue should at least be shared with those that put in the effort to keep it running smoothly (i.e. the mods) or even like the giffgaff forums where contributing gets you payback.