Minor change to Avios/TP table for for non-OW partner airlines
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Minor change to Avios/TP table for for non-OW partner airlines
The Avios/TP earning eligibility table has changed somewhat for non-oneworld partner airlines (e.g. Alaska, Aer Lingus, Meridiana) in the last couple of days..
It changed sometime last year to indicate if you were on an oneworld flight with partner metal you would earn both Avios and TP (e.g. an AA codeshare on Alaska); now zilch TPs or Avios.
This gives way to the following scenario:
Flight with AS - earn Avios
Flight with AA - earn Avios plus TPs
Flight with AA metal, AS codeshare - earn Avios
Flight with AS metal, AA codeshare - nothing (previously earned both TPs and Avios)
Previously:
Updated (last couple of days)
An error now corrected I wonder?
It changed sometime last year to indicate if you were on an oneworld flight with partner metal you would earn both Avios and TP (e.g. an AA codeshare on Alaska); now zilch TPs or Avios.
This gives way to the following scenario:
Flight with AS - earn Avios
Flight with AA - earn Avios plus TPs
Flight with AA metal, AS codeshare - earn Avios
Flight with AS metal, AA codeshare - nothing (previously earned both TPs and Avios)
Previously:
Updated (last couple of days)
An error now corrected I wonder?
Last edited by yohoho; Jan 23, 2015 at 6:48 pm
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Well spotted.
Just to add a bit of context to this. The original story was that if you flew on AA flight numbers (codeshare) on Alaska, then you "should" get TPs and Avios. The reason being that Alaska is a direct partner of BA, as well as AA. However the AA to Alaska loop wasn't properly constructed. AA was responsible for extracting TPs and Avios "credit" from Alaska, but AA's contract with AS didn't include this factor, and so AA simply refused all claims.
Consequently BA.com said one thing - which was logical - but in reality it didn't happen. The website now seems to reflect the current reality, even if it doesn't really make sense. It's unfortunate since from about a year or two back AS provided quite a large number of useful services under AA flight numbers, in the triangle from LAX to Anchorage to Hawaii.
Just to add a bit of context to this. The original story was that if you flew on AA flight numbers (codeshare) on Alaska, then you "should" get TPs and Avios. The reason being that Alaska is a direct partner of BA, as well as AA. However the AA to Alaska loop wasn't properly constructed. AA was responsible for extracting TPs and Avios "credit" from Alaska, but AA's contract with AS didn't include this factor, and so AA simply refused all claims.
Consequently BA.com said one thing - which was logical - but in reality it didn't happen. The website now seems to reflect the current reality, even if it doesn't really make sense. It's unfortunate since from about a year or two back AS provided quite a large number of useful services under AA flight numbers, in the triangle from LAX to Anchorage to Hawaii.
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Well spotted.
Just to add a bit of context to this. The original story was that if you flew on AA flight numbers (codeshare) on Alaska, then you "should" get TPs and Avios. The reason being that Alaska is a direct partner of BA, as well as AA. However the AA to Alaska loop wasn't properly constructed. AA was responsible for extracting TPs and Avios "credit" from Alaska, but AA's contract with AS didn't include this factor, and so AA simply refused all claims.
Consequently BA.com said one thing - which was logical - but in reality it didn't happen. The website now seems to reflect the current reality, even if it doesn't really make sense. It's unfortunate since from about a year or two back AS provided quite a large number of useful services under AA flight numbers, in the triangle from LAX to Anchorage to Hawaii.
Just to add a bit of context to this. The original story was that if you flew on AA flight numbers (codeshare) on Alaska, then you "should" get TPs and Avios. The reason being that Alaska is a direct partner of BA, as well as AA. However the AA to Alaska loop wasn't properly constructed. AA was responsible for extracting TPs and Avios "credit" from Alaska, but AA's contract with AS didn't include this factor, and so AA simply refused all claims.
Consequently BA.com said one thing - which was logical - but in reality it didn't happen. The website now seems to reflect the current reality, even if it doesn't really make sense. It's unfortunate since from about a year or two back AS provided quite a large number of useful services under AA flight numbers, in the triangle from LAX to Anchorage to Hawaii.
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http://www.britishairways.com/en-au/...-avios/flights
**Flights booked under the Qantas code (QF) operated by a non-oneworld airline will earn Avios and Tier Points unless operated by Jetstar in a class other than L class.
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**Flights booked under the Qantas code (QF) operated by a non-oneworld airline will earn Avios and Tier Points unless operated by Jetstar in a class other than L class.
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As I was falling asleep I realised. BA have extended their Avios exemption on QF*EK and QF*friends to be even more generous than the AA*AS hole they were trying to patch...
A mistake? (Some had reported this as an earlier policy but I do not remember it being endorsed officially.)
A mistake? (Some had reported this as an earlier policy but I do not remember it being endorsed officially.)
For posterity's sake, it used to be:
*Flights booked under the Qantas code (QF) operated by a non-oneworld airline will earn Avios but not Tier Points.
I can, to an extent, understand the QF/EK TP flow as QF essentially wants their partnership to function as one single airline having gifted many routes to EK. So it's feasible QF came to an agreement for TPs (assuming this is possible on their side) on EK metal so as to minimise any other OW FF'ers abandoning them.
I think BA trying to fit all it's various paradigms into this one size fits all table is causing more problems than solving.
Last edited by yohoho; Jan 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm
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