Changes to Gold Guest List Qualification Criteria
#31
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#33
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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I would encourage you to do so if you are within striking distance. My original plan had been to hit GGL by doing 3000 TPs in two years but this membership year I found I would be wthin 1000 TPs of a CCR card and instant GGL so decided I would go for it. It has been fun getting it and I can now hob nob with the VIPs in the CCR as well
#35
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I am trying to take a helicopter vision on this, my take is:
1) They presumably are seeing some new GGLer prospects sliding it at just over 3k and this is either increasing numbers too much (impact on jokers) and/or they actually aren't the profile of GGLers they are looking for - not the true high rollers.
2) They are happy with their existing GGL membership cohort, so no changes to affect them, other than the historic Euro-Cheat level. Perhaps this is because any changes to the 3k barrier risks annoying some people they would rather not annoy and it's not worth the candle trying to divide and rule, to mix my metaphors.
3) On the other hand they do see anyone getting 5k as an interesting prospect and want to keep encouraging them.
1) They presumably are seeing some new GGLer prospects sliding it at just over 3k and this is either increasing numbers too much (impact on jokers) and/or they actually aren't the profile of GGLers they are looking for - not the true high rollers.
2) They are happy with their existing GGL membership cohort, so no changes to affect them, other than the historic Euro-Cheat level. Perhaps this is because any changes to the 3k barrier risks annoying some people they would rather not annoy and it's not worth the candle trying to divide and rule, to mix my metaphors.
3) On the other hand they do see anyone getting 5k as an interesting prospect and want to keep encouraging them.
#36
Join Date: Aug 2006
Programs: BAEC Gold/GGL, IHG Diamond AMB
Posts: 1,074
So glad I didn't book BA the other day that would have got me over 3k Tier Points - saving money and choosing another carrier. Seriously that 2 x 3K qualification to GGL was a real incentive to me until I read this post.
Very disappointing all in all.
Very disappointing all in all.
#37
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Join Date: May 2007
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Even with 5k TPs GGL is still quite easy to get for longhaul flyers. One F return a month or three CW returns every two months will do it.
For shorthaul flyers on the other hand things become more difficult as qualification moves from just over three returns per month to more than five.
Maybe BA's rationale is that they want GGL passengers to contribute to the longhaul network.
For shorthaul flyers on the other hand things become more difficult as qualification moves from just over three returns per month to more than five.
Maybe BA's rationale is that they want GGL passengers to contribute to the longhaul network.
#38
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 995
I guess this was to be expected given the ease with which GGL can be achieved with some of the extreme TP runs.
I think BA need to look at the Tier points awarded on some of their flights e.g. the BabyBus anomaly needs to be sorted out as this would help in whittling out the GGL riff raff who fly from LCY. There is no real justification for 210 TP for this route.
I think BA need to look at the Tier points awarded on some of their flights e.g. the BabyBus anomaly needs to be sorted out as this would help in whittling out the GGL riff raff who fly from LCY. There is no real justification for 210 TP for this route.
#40
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
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I would encourage you to do so if you are within striking distance. My original plan had been to hit GGL by doing 3000 TPs in two years but this membership year I found I would be wthin 1000 TPs of a CCR card and instant GGL so decided I would go for it. It has been fun getting it and I can now hob nob with the VIPs in the CCR as well
#41
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#42
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: BA GGL/CCR
Posts: 370
Gotta say, this one doesn't hurt my feelings. I've had a sense of GGL service levels and accommodations slipping lately. Hopefully this will reverse that trend. Now, time to add the escorts & tarmac transfers please.
#43
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: A hop, skip and jump away from MAN.
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GGL, to me, is really about loyalty to BA.
The TP count for GGL could be based on or weighted to TPs earned on "BA metal" (for some definition of that), which would potentially deal with the issue of US Transcon TP running.
However that would involve a further TP odometer to be built into the EC machinery, and the concept of which flights are eligible.
Given the sloth-like pace that other BA software tools appear (at least to the outsider) to be changed or developed, this would likely not be possible.
#44
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GfL, Marriott PlatfL/Ambassador, TP Gold, IHG Spire
Posts: 1,656
I for one think this is a great change. Everyone and his dog can get a GGL card these days and I don't think that was the original intention of this "exclusive" tier.
Now can you please lift the qualification requirements for GCH/SCH and scrape Bronze?
Now can you please lift the qualification requirements for GCH/SCH and scrape Bronze?