Missing an Avios award "stopover" flight
May 26, 2014, 9:14 pm
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Missing an Avios award "stopover" flight
Much has been written that its often less mileage and/or shows more availability to book two one-way tickets with a stopover instead of a one-way ticket.
For instance, I booked MSP-ORD then ORD-CMH. I did this because the ORD-CMH leg was available and I was going to purchase a ticket to ORD. A few days later however, the MSP-ORD ticket showed availability.
My question: What happens if for some reasonable reason (airline delay) you miss the second leg. Airlines wave their hands about weather delays. Would they honor your second leg, or would you just be missing it?
Flying international you can imagine some situations where this would be problematic if you don't leave 8 hrs between flights.
Anyone had experience? My guess is if you do a "stopover" its on you to make sure you are there for the connection.
Thanks,
Ryan
For instance, I booked MSP-ORD then ORD-CMH. I did this because the ORD-CMH leg was available and I was going to purchase a ticket to ORD. A few days later however, the MSP-ORD ticket showed availability.
My question: What happens if for some reasonable reason (airline delay) you miss the second leg. Airlines wave their hands about weather delays. Would they honor your second leg, or would you just be missing it?
Flying international you can imagine some situations where this would be problematic if you don't leave 8 hrs between flights.
Anyone had experience? My guess is if you do a "stopover" its on you to make sure you are there for the connection.
Thanks,
Ryan
May 26, 2014, 9:28 pm
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http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Bookin...tkt_policy.jsp
http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Bookin...tkt_policy.jsp
May 26, 2014, 11:57 pm
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That only applies to AA because of their policy. If that were 2 separate tickets on BA connecting at LHR and the inbound is delayed, you'd be at BA's mercy and if they rebook you, the agent would be doing you a favour. Reward or paid revenue ticket, it makes no difference.
May 27, 2014, 12:04 am
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That only applies to AA because of their policy. If that were 2 separate tickets on BA connecting at LHR and the inbound is delayed, you'd be at BA's mercy and if they rebook you, the agent would be doing you a favour. Reward or paid revenue ticket, it makes no difference.
May 27, 2014, 1:10 am
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Only if you have allowed for MCT. What times does the MSP-ORD flight arrive and then what time does the ORD-CMH flight depart?
I believe the MCT is at least 1hr 20. But depends on the arrival airline & departure airline.
I believe the MCT is at least 1hr 20. But depends on the arrival airline & departure airline.
May 27, 2014, 10:01 am
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Since the OP will be connecting from AA to AA, the MCT for the his itinerary will be much less than 80 minutes:
[Url]http://www.flyerguide.com/Minimum_Connecting_Times_(AA)[/i]
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Only if you have allowed for MCT. What times does the MSP-ORD flight arrive and then what time does the ORD-CMH flight depart?
I believe the MCT is at least 1hr 20. But depends on the arrival airline & departure airline.
I believe the MCT is at least 1hr 20. But depends on the arrival airline & departure airline.
[Url]http://www.flyerguide.com/Minimum_Connecting_Times_(AA)[/i]
May 27, 2014, 10:38 am
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Since the OP will be connecting from AA to AA, the MCT for the his itinerary will be much less than 80 minutes:
[Url]http://www.flyerguide.com/Minimum_Connecting_Times_(AA)[/i]
Since the OP will be connecting from AA to AA, the MCT for the his itinerary will be much less than 80 minutes:
[Url]http://www.flyerguide.com/Minimum_Connecting_Times_(AA)[/i]
May 27, 2014, 11:47 am
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That only applies to AA because of their policy. If that were 2 separate tickets on BA connecting at LHR and the inbound is delayed, you'd be at BA's mercy and if they rebook you, the agent would be doing you a favour. Reward or paid revenue ticket, it makes no difference.
I fully agree that BA aren't contractually bound to do it, but I've read countless stories of them unofficially doing it and can't remember reading a single time where they haven't (though I'm sure it does happens occasionally). Are you actually lucky to get rebooked, or is it not being rebooked that's actually the exception to the norm? I assume they're far more likely to wash their hands of it if you misconnect from a different airline though.
May 27, 2014, 12:53 pm
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People keep saying that you're at "their mercy" and if you get rebooked you're "very lucky" etc. - but how true actually is that?
I fully agree that BA aren't contractually bound to do it, but I've read countless stories of them unofficially doing it and can't remember reading a single time where they haven't (though I'm sure it does happens occasionally). Are you actually lucky to get rebooked, or is it not being rebooked that's actually the exception to the norm? I assume they're far more likely to wash their hands of it if you misconnect from a different airline though.
I fully agree that BA aren't contractually bound to do it, but I've read countless stories of them unofficially doing it and can't remember reading a single time where they haven't (though I'm sure it does happens occasionally). Are you actually lucky to get rebooked, or is it not being rebooked that's actually the exception to the norm? I assume they're far more likely to wash their hands of it if you misconnect from a different airline though.
May 27, 2014, 9:53 pm
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How about for Avios awards that don't include AA?
I was using my MSP-ORD / ORD-CMH as an example.
I was thinking of doing this to hop around the world, and while I'd rather enjoy a several day stopover, there could be cases where I was just using the stop to hop on another plane.
So I was more concerned with this in general, for any flights bookable with AVIOS miles.
I took AA's response to be the same for all OneWorld partners.
So I guess that's my question now: Does OneWorld honor all other Oneworld tickets whether on one itinerary or on several. I searched around more and could only find examples of AA having this policy
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...tickets-5.html
I was using my MSP-ORD / ORD-CMH as an example.
I was thinking of doing this to hop around the world, and while I'd rather enjoy a several day stopover, there could be cases where I was just using the stop to hop on another plane.
So I was more concerned with this in general, for any flights bookable with AVIOS miles.
I took AA's response to be the same for all OneWorld partners.
So I guess that's my question now: Does OneWorld honor all other Oneworld tickets whether on one itinerary or on several. I searched around more and could only find examples of AA having this policy
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...tickets-5.html
May 27, 2014, 10:43 pm
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"Does OneWorld honor all other Oneworld tickets whether on one itinerary or on several."
No. AA is the only oneworld carrier that explicitly protects you on connections between AA and AA or another oneworld carrier, on separate tickets. No other oneworld carrier has a comparable published policy.
"Does OneWorld honor all other Oneworld tickets whether on one itinerary or on several."
No. AA is the only oneworld carrier that explicitly protects you on connections between AA and AA or another oneworld carrier, on separate tickets. No other oneworld carrier has a comparable published policy.
Mar 26, 2017, 4:12 pm
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BA to Qatar on one BAEC Avios booking
to keep the questions coming:
what about a BA to Qatar through Doha but on the same booking through Avios? If BA weren't so tight on redemptions and Sri Lankan was possible I'd happily grin and bare it but they're only offering one viable routing. Don't want to stay in Doha both ways.
what about a BA to Qatar through Doha but on the same booking through Avios? If BA weren't so tight on redemptions and Sri Lankan was possible I'd happily grin and bare it but they're only offering one viable routing. Don't want to stay in Doha both ways.
Mar 26, 2017, 4:30 pm
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BA to Qatar on one BAEC Avios booking
to keep the questions coming:
what about a BA to Qatar through Doha but on the same booking through Avios? If BA weren't so tight on redemptions and Sri Lankan was possible I'd happily grin and bare it but they're only offering one viable routing. Don't want to stay in Doha both ways.
what about a BA to Qatar through Doha but on the same booking through Avios? If BA weren't so tight on redemptions and Sri Lankan was possible I'd happily grin and bare it but they're only offering one viable routing. Don't want to stay in Doha both ways.