Cabin Crews' Worst Route?
Apr 24, 2014, 1:56 pm
#16
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I haven't operated a LAS (yet) and I don't have an urgent desire of doing so. It's a 3-class aircraft to/from LGW... I've done a few IBZs and they're very hard work. Then again, any flight can be really hard work, depending on the timing of the flight, time of year etc.
I do like doing JER flights though. Quick flight time, rush rush rush, but the customers are always great, and it's fun to challenge the flight crew to set new speeding records
I do like doing JER flights though. Quick flight time, rush rush rush, but the customers are always great, and it's fun to challenge the flight crew to set new speeding records
Apr 24, 2014, 2:04 pm
#18
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Over the years, I've met different crews from different airlines and Mumbai was the least favourite from BA, NW (now Delta) and QF crews (not sure if they still fly there).
Apr 24, 2014, 2:27 pm
#21
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In Y on most transatlantic routes it looks like they have a couple hours of frantic activity followed by many hours of relative peace. The odd person brave enough to press the button and occassional visits to the galley.
I would expect in F there is more of a constant stream of serving to be done.
Of course on a route like Las Vegas the button pressing and visting is probably much more frequent.
I would expect in F there is more of a constant stream of serving to be done.
Of course on a route like Las Vegas the button pressing and visting is probably much more frequent.
Remember there are 3 crew up the front and 14 passengers, down the back there are 4 or 5 with 150-200 passengers.
Apr 24, 2014, 2:28 pm
#22
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The thing is: for crew, I imagine there are so many different reasons to like a roster or not: it could be that the flight is "hard work" on the passengers' side as some have said, it could be the timings, the length of the time off, it could be the city itself, or the hotel where BA puts them up, etc. It could even be that some routes might be more crowded than others (e.g. cabin configuration, loads) or that some planes might be more pleasant to fly than others (e.g. crew/pax ratio)? I imagine that some routes might even be more pleasant in some seasons than in others. I would guess that different crew members weigh those different elements in different ways (or even that for some, priorities could change at different times in their life and carrier, ie it might be better to explore far flung exotic destinations for a single crew and more tempting to get a more "compact" roster if they have a family with small children?) I may be completely off the mark though.
Apr 24, 2014, 2:31 pm
#23
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I have a feeling that the night IBZ out of EDI this Summer will be very hard work for our Mixed Fleet crew as many of the customers will be in the party mood!
Apr 24, 2014, 2:33 pm
#24
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The thing is: for crew, I imagine there are so many different reasons to like a roster or not: it could be that the flight is "hard work" on the passengers' side as some have said, it could be the timings, the length of the time off, it could be the city itself, or the hotel where BA puts them up, etc. It could even be that some routes might be more crowded than others (e.g. cabin configuration, loads) or that some planes might be more pleasant to fly than others (e.g. crew/pax ratio)? I imagine that some routes might even be more pleasant in some seasons than in others. I would guess that different crew members weigh those different elements in different ways (or even that for some, priorities could change at different times in their life and carrier, ie it might be better to explore far flung exotic destinations for a single crew and more tempting to get a more "compact" roster if they have a family with small children?) I may be completely off the mark though.
Apr 24, 2014, 2:41 pm
#25
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As Littlegirl has said, it's personal preferences. We fly to a large number of destinations, each flight has it's own unique characteristics and it's horses for courses really. Example: Kuwait is probably my favourite. Quick flight time on a 747, two free Breakfasts at the hotel, very nice souk with cheap and healthy food. Nice, easy trip.
I'm sure some people wouldn't like it though!
I'm sure some people wouldn't like it though!
Apr 24, 2014, 2:47 pm
#26
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I'm sure there are plenty of arses in whichever class they fly, however if you are going to chose a hospitality industry in which to work then one must be flexible to the demands of that industry. If BA set their service to match the lowest expectations (god forbid I should give them ideas) then we are all doomed… It's not a flying Harvester.
Apr 24, 2014, 3:40 pm
#27
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I fly TLV frequently, and I have had more than one crew make plain to me they find it a uniquely trying route - and all the worse since it went narrow-bodied. It has perks (one of the shortest long haul flights, with a nice TLV hotel between the flights, etc - but the behaviour of the pax can be very wearisome indeed, and often with a very high percentage of special meals to boot....
Apr 24, 2014, 4:10 pm
#28
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When I flew back from Tel Aviv on Monday night they ran out of kosher meals! It must take a special kind of (lack of planning) to do that on that route. The chap next to me, who had pre-ordered, wasn't happy as it was Passover so he couldn't eat the vegetarian (pasta) option he was offered instead (ie no flour for Passover). Cabin Service Director gave him 4000 Avios on the spot, but still a rather major fail by whichever department is in charge of such things.
Apr 24, 2014, 4:24 pm
#29
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I think it's a good job that they 'saw the light' then
I'm sure there are plenty of arses in whichever class they fly, however if you are going to chose a hospitality industry in which to work then one must be flexible to the demands of that industry. If BA set their service to match the lowest expectations (god forbid I should give them ideas) then we are all doomed… It's not a flying Harvester.
I'm sure there are plenty of arses in whichever class they fly, however if you are going to chose a hospitality industry in which to work then one must be flexible to the demands of that industry. If BA set their service to match the lowest expectations (god forbid I should give them ideas) then we are all doomed… It's not a flying Harvester.