Your guide to the Executive Club, attaining status and earning Avios | 2014
#121
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You need to have a points credit/debit on your account within last 12 months to be eligible for fixed price Reward Flight Saver. Otherwise you pay airport fees (high in Europe), fuel surcharge (super high on BA) and quite possibly something else.
Note that combine my avios transfer between own accounts does not count as points credit/debit.
Note that combine my avios transfer between own accounts does not count as points credit/debit.
#122
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Also note that Avios.com often has better availability than ba.com on as it uses different bucket (not sure if shorthaul only).
Don't know what availability oneworld partners have access to, but I am guessing the same as ba.com.
#123
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You need to have a points credit/debit on your account within last 12 months to be eligible for fixed price Reward Flight Saver. Otherwise you pay airport fees (high in Europe), fuel surcharge (super high on BA) and quite possibly something else.
Note that combine my avios transfer between own accounts does not count as points credit/debit.
Note that combine my avios transfer between own accounts does not count as points credit/debit.
Will an AMEX transfer do the trick?
#124
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#125
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Deleted. Moved to appropriate thread.
Last edited by absolutboy20; Jul 24, 2014 at 3:37 pm
#127
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#128
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Thanks for a fantastic thread, by the way.
#129
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FWIW, the current BA page for QR gives the following booking classes:-
Discounted economy - LVSNTQO (25%) / G (50%) / HKM (75%)
Full-fare economy - YB
Business - CJDI
First - FPA
Discounted economy - LVSNTQO (25%) / G (50%) / HKM (75%)
Full-fare economy - YB
Business - CJDI
First - FPA
#130
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: EBD, BAEC GGL/CCR, Alitalia AlataPlus, Club Carlson Gold, SPG Plat100, HHD
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A quick question.
A MH ticket issued in low economy in Q class (what exactly is this class?) according to the avios calculator all low economy tickets on MH should earn 25% avios and half TP.
If I on the other hand go into the site via "earn miles with our partners" only booking classes L, V, S get 25% and K,M 50% and Y, B, H get 100%.
So what about Q?
It was a ticket bought for cash via the local representative office for MH, so shouldn't be in any way a strange ticket like ID or reward booking class.
A MH ticket issued in low economy in Q class (what exactly is this class?) according to the avios calculator all low economy tickets on MH should earn 25% avios and half TP.
If I on the other hand go into the site via "earn miles with our partners" only booking classes L, V, S get 25% and K,M 50% and Y, B, H get 100%.
So what about Q?
It was a ticket bought for cash via the local representative office for MH, so shouldn't be in any way a strange ticket like ID or reward booking class.
#131
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
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A quick question.
A MH ticket issued in low economy in Q class (what exactly is this class?) according to the avios calculator all low economy tickets on MH should earn 25% avios and half TP.
If I on the other hand go into the site via "earn miles with our partners" only booking classes L, V, S get 25% and K,M 50% and Y, B, H get 100%.
So what about Q?
It was a ticket bought for cash via the local representative office for MH, so shouldn't be in any way a strange ticket like ID or reward booking class.
A MH ticket issued in low economy in Q class (what exactly is this class?) according to the avios calculator all low economy tickets on MH should earn 25% avios and half TP.
If I on the other hand go into the site via "earn miles with our partners" only booking classes L, V, S get 25% and K,M 50% and Y, B, H get 100%.
So what about Q?
It was a ticket bought for cash via the local representative office for MH, so shouldn't be in any way a strange ticket like ID or reward booking class.
EDIT: this seems to confirm as well that Q earns no avios or TPs
#132
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Well as you noted Q isn't listed on the earning table on ba.com for MH - which might suggest it doesn't earn anything. Also looking at aa.com for MH earning Q (along with N & O) is specifically listed as earning nothing. I know aa is a different ffp but the partner booking class earning tables on aa and ba tend to be pretty closely aligned.
EDIT: this seems to confirm as well that Q earns no avios or TPs
EDIT: this seems to confirm as well that Q earns no avios or TPs
I guess you have to call me stupid for going to the Avios/TP calculator and choosing 'low economy' before booking to see that I earn 35 TP per way. (Don't give a toss about avios as I have plenty)
Now it appears I have paid Ł400 for a return KUL-PEK (which can hardly be considered a ridiculously low fare although it is of course not expensive) that gives exactly 0 TP and 0 avios when the calculator indicates it gives 70 TP and some avios. How exactly is a normal passenger (that doesn't even know what a booking class is) going to react?
I'll take this up with BA in my next rant to them. (They are claiming my other two legs on this journey (which for sure are in earning booking classes) are credited already to my account but they are not!!!)
#133
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Wimbledon, UK
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I'm going to be booking a lot of CX flights soon for the first time. In order to earn Avios on them rather than Asia Miles I am guessing I can put my BAEC number on the booking rather than CX FF number?
Edit: Making the booking through CX website aswell.
Edit: Making the booking through CX website aswell.
Last edited by yokozuma; Aug 14, 2014 at 9:03 am
#134
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Yes, when you get to the "Enter passenger information" screen during the booking process there is a drop down list for frequent flyer program and BAEC is in that list. You also put your BAEC number in the "Frequent Flyer Number" field. After you fly your TPs & avios shoudl credit to your BAEC account.
#135
Join Date: Dec 2010
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My EC page is showing that I need only 800TP to retain gold. I've had that for two years now but this time I did not make it to Gold and I'm dropping to Silver soon. So I thought the Gold threshold would go up to normal levels of 1500TP for me. Not complaining at all as this year I might get the 800TP but definitely not 1500TP.