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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old May 24, 2015, 7:28 pm
          #1111  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2005
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        Originally Posted by wagonman
        dutch_122 thank you so much

        looks wide open huh?

        how many seats is that?


        it does.
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        Old May 25, 2015, 3:38 am
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        Join Date: Sep 2008
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        Hi am flying ba117 on 27th can someone pls let me know the availability ?

        thanx
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        Old May 25, 2015, 4:04 am
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        Originally Posted by diamantaire
        hi am flying ba117 on 27th can someone pls let me know the availability ?

        Thanx
        Hi,

        BA117
        F9 A9 J9 C3 D3 W9 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N5 O9 G9

        Looks wide open to my untrained eye.

        Last edited by Pet0r; May 25, 2015 at 4:14 am
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        Old May 25, 2015, 9:30 am
          #1114  
         
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        Originally Posted by Pet0r
        Hi,

        BA117
        F9 A9 J9 C3 D3 W9 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N5 O9 G9

        Looks wide open to my untrained eye.
        Thanx alot , so no opup
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        Old May 26, 2015, 1:58 am
          #1115  
         
        Join Date: May 2010
        Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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        Hi I'm flying BA74 on 28/05.

        Can someone please check availability for me.

        Thanks
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        Old May 26, 2015, 6:48 am
          #1116  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2014
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        Hi All,

        Can anyone show me the loads for BA15 SIN-SYD on 28/5 - not sure if you'll be able to split out from LHR-SIN on 27/5.

        Thank you
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        Old May 26, 2015, 6:50 am
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        Join Date: Oct 2014
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        Originally Posted by wjh5879
        hi all,

        can anyone show me the loads for ba15 sin-syd on 28/5 - not sure if you'll be able to split out from lhr-sin on 27/5.

        Thank you
        f4 a4 j9 c0 dc rc ic w4 ec tc y9 b6 h5 k4 m3 l6 v3 sc nc qc oc g0
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        Old May 26, 2015, 6:59 am
          #1118  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by ahonohai
        Hi I'm flying BA74 on 28/05.

        Can someone please check availability for me.

        Thanks

        If you wish to request availability for a specify flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
        But since I'm feeling nice - I looked it up ... LOS-LHR right?

        F5 A4 J9 C8 D3 R2 IC W2 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
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        Old May 26, 2015, 7:09 am
          #1119  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
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        Hi what is the load for the BA 181 LHR-JFK on 01/06 Please, is this a busy flight often?
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        Old May 26, 2015, 7:16 am
          #1120  
         
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        Originally Posted by Tuggster
        Hi what is the load for the BA 181 LHR-JFK on 01/06 Please, is this a busy flight often?
        F2 A2 J9 C1 D2 RC IC W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V3 SC NC QC O9 G9

        Quite full up front, but wide open elsewhere...
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        Old May 26, 2015, 8:50 am
          #1121  
         
        Join Date: May 2015
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        Hello,

        how can i check load status on Lufthansa Fight LH459 SFO-MUC May 26 ?

        Today is the day....

        How can i check them myself so i'm not a burden?

        Thanks everybody.... This group is awesome.!
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        Old May 26, 2015, 8:57 am
          #1122  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2011
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        Hi Wagonman,

        You normally need to subscribe to a service. I use expertflyer, which has a free version but to get the loads you need to pay ($10 per month).

        Here's the availability with a US POS:
        F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 G9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
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        Old May 26, 2015, 9:10 am
          #1123  
         
        Join Date: May 2015
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        Thank you gustavmahler

        Check you inbox

        how many seats does that represent?

        from the research i have gathered. There are at least 9?

        I get a green smiley face on id90 i have learned that represents at least 15% avail
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        Old May 26, 2015, 9:22 am
          #1124  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2011
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        Help to check seat availability and flight loads

        Sorry, my app keeps crashing when I try to reply to your PM. There are far more experienced people on here who can tell you the ins and outs.

        Basically it tells you how many seats the airline is prepared to sell in a particular class. It doesn't give exact figures of how many seats are left though it tends to give a rough guide. Some of the buckets may show as having 9 left however they may have some kind of advance purchase restrictions so you can't book them this close out.
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        Old May 26, 2015, 9:41 am
          #1125  
         
        Join Date: May 2015
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        Hi, would someone mind checking seat availability on

        QF 16 LAX to BNE on May 30th

        and

        QF 15 BNE to LAX on June 9th

        Thanks!
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