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Lucrative runs that have been reported under 3/TP - current availability not guaranteed
Route | Booking class | Fare | Booking channel | TPs | /TP | credit

American Airlines

SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN | A/A/I | 498 return | aa.com | 620 TPs | 0.80/TP | chris1979
ORD-STL-DFW-SJU | A/A/I | 458 return | aa.com | 520 TPs | 0.88/TP | timezonehopper
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-LAS | A/A/I/I/A/A | 581 round trip | aa.com | 620 TPs | 0.94/TP | courtster
AMS-LHR-LAX-SFO-JFK-LHR-AMS | I/I/A/A/I/I | 1641 round trip | aa.com | 630 TPs | 2.60/TP | mccorry
IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | 2106 round trip | aa.com | 790TPs | 2.61/TP | nth_utsera_sth_utsera
45 day advance purchase required, minimum stay 7 days.

British Airways
LGW-MLA | R | 248 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | 1.55/TP | LDNConsultant
LGW-RAK | R | 280 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | 1.75/TP | mfgr
Book by 31/12/13 for this price.
JER-LGW-AMS | J/R | 259 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | 1.62/TP | joejet
LGW-JER | R | 181 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | 2.26/TP
LGW-AMS | R | 199 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | 2.49/TP
BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA (last bit on AA) and back | I/I/A | 1,529 return | probably have to phone up | 920 TPs | 1.66/TP | stifle
Outbound 12/4-27/4 or 25/6-24/8, min stay Sat night, ticket by 2/1/14

Royal Jordanian
BEY-AMM-AQJ | D | 255 return | rj.com | 160 TPs | 1.59/TP | DeanB

Malaysia Airlines
SIN-KUL-KCH | D | S$660 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 160 TPs | 2.12/TP |HPN-HRL
DEL-KUL-BKK | Z | INR41,666 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 360TPs| 1.15/TP| Seshy
DEL-KUL-NRT | Z | INR92,395 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| 1.64/TP| Seshy
ICN-KUL-SYD/MEL | Z | KRW1,582,600 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| 1.65/TP| armagebedar
SIN-KUL-DXB | Z | S$1084 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | 1.50/TP | qasr (+long haul equipment on KUL-DXB)
SIN-KUL-TPE | Z | S$1078 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | 1.49/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-DEL | Z | S$1018 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | 1.41/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-KTM | Z | S$1006 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | 1.39/TP | qasr

Qatar Airways
CAI-DOH-BKK | 759 return | D/D/D/A | 360 TPs | 2.10/TP ExpatSomchai
DME-DOH-SGN | I | 1255 return | qatarairways.com | 560 TPs | 2.25/TP |continentalclub

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Old Jan 5, 13, 12:35 pm   #1
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This thread is a continuation of the hugely popular BA Tier Point runs thread. This is intended to be a starting point for finding key origin and destinations to tailor your tier point runs, but you will still need to do some leg work to find the correct dates and flights. Also, don't forget that with some of these fares there will be a positioning cost associated to get to the start of the tier point run.


Acknowledgments
Special thanks to corporate-wage-slave, Stez, JonWB and all our members who supported the old BA Tier Point runs thread.


Unlike Avios points which can be earned through a multitude of activities, Tier Points can only be earned through the pursuit of flying and are earned on all commercial BA and oneworld fares (subject to a few exceptions). The number of Tier Points you accrue is entirely dependent on the fare class (or selling class in BA lingo) your tickets are booked in. Below is the full earning chart which covers BA flights and oneworld partner flights. For the purpose of maximising your Tier Point earning, it is recommended you focus on the two right hand column (business and first class)




BA/AY short haul+ routes:

MAN-HEL on AY code (BE metal)
LHR-DME on S7 code (BA metal). Note: BA code accrues at Club World rates
LGW-SKG and LGW-PFO are seasonal routes



List of BA/other long haul, 6,000 miles and over:

BA: LGW - MRU
BA: LHR - CPT | EZE | HND | NRT | SIN



AA: DFW - NRT | ICN
AA: DFW - ICN | NRT
AA: JFK - HND
AA: LAX - PVG
AA: ORD - PVG | NRT



CX: HKG - JFK | LAX | ORD | SFO | YVR | YYZ | JNB


IB: MAD - EZE | SCL | MVD


JL: NRT - BOS | CDG | JFK | LHR | ORD
JL: HND - CDG



LA: SCL - MAD | FRA
LA: SCL - AKL | SYD



MH: KUL - AMS | CDG | FRA | LHR (from 01 Feb 2013)


QF: BNE - DFW | LAX
QF: MEL - LAX
QF: SIN - FRA | LHR
QF: SYD - DFW | LAX | JNB | SCL



RJ: AMM - ORD | DTW


Starting your run from Continental Europe
Here are a few popular examples to give you a flavour of what can be achieved at a relatively respectable price. Note, any fare prices shown in this post are indicative and reflect the rates checked at the time of writing. Fares do vary considerably, so check this thread from time to time for prevailing fares/offers/promotions etc

Naturally, to get to the most cost advantageous origin, positioning flights (and most likely, overnight accommodation) is an inevitable factor. Athens is the flavour of the moment for cheap (I class) transatlantic flights in business class. Thanks to the BA/AA Joint Business Venture, it is now possible to construct connections within the United States for very little extra. However, the lowest I class fares usually come with stop over and Saturday night stay restrictions, but it is possible to spread out your itinerary by constructing connections of up to 24 hours, if you prefer a trip that is gentler on the body.



Note, 210 Tier Points are earned on Club World London City flights between LCY and JFK in lieu of the 140 Tier Points typically earned for the equivalent Club World flights between LHR/LGW and North America.


North American domestic first/business class runs
Central America and the Caribbean have become hot spots for TP earning frenzies out of the United States in recent years. AA's Instant Upgrade fares from the west cost to Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua amongst many other destinations in the region deliver excellent Tier Point yields. So much so, that with a little bit of planning and of course time, it is possible to rack up TPs at an alarming rate.
Planning and booking tips
  • If you're old school, like me, the first step is to download and immerse oneself in AA's flight schedule: The current timetable is available, here.
  • Familiarise yourself with AA.com's Multi-City booking tool. Don't leave more than 24 hours between flights
  • Select city pairs (if possible) in excess of 2,000 miles apart (see diagram below)
  • Avoid AA codeshare flights on non-oneworld metal. There is no TP credit on these flights
  • 757 - As fantastically racy as these aircraft are, the first class seat requires a health warning. Think very carefully before committing yourself to a 5 hour red-eye 757 flight. Row 1 on the 757 is also worth avoiding.
  • 777 - Yes the big birds do operate on a few domestic routes (eg. MIA-LAX). Like their senior, and more petite 767-200 siblings which ply the JFK-LAX transcon route, seats on these aircraft are sold as business as well as the usual first and economy classes
  • MCO - As American Airlines' low yield focus city, Orlando is your friend
  • Schedule changes - AA routinely gives its domestic timetable a jolly good shake (twice a year) so if you've booked your flights with plenty of advanced notice, expect a few changes to happen between now and the date of departure
The following diagram illustrates American Airlines' current domestic city pairs greater than 2,000 miles apart. Note, the forward cabin on flights serving SJU and YYZ are sold as business rather than first class. Anchorage is typically a seasonal route. Routes are subject to change so again downloading the lastest timetable from aa.com is recommended.



Looking at the example below and having taken a LAS-MIA-SJU excursion myself last year, I enjoying the experience immensely. While not working the system with the same zeal as others and with that failing to join the ranks of the Managua GGLs, the two days R&R spent on the ocean front proved to be a splendidly rewarding by product.

Something to be aware of with premium cabins on flights operated by American Airlines: flights operating entirely within the United States are marketed as first class; those operating outwith the US are marketed as business class.



I've highlighted the LAS-LAX-MIA-SJU routing not because it is the best earner. There are other routings that yield a greater sum of TPs and invariably at a better price but because this is a such gentle itinerary. The outbound legs can be accomplished in a single day, albeit with an early start. The inbound is even easier and a noon start is possible, a beneficiary of the westerly routing where the changing time zones work in our favour.

Note, the flights between MIA and SJU are sold as business class and thus accrue 40 Tier points. For those planning a trip from the Midwest or East Coast to San Juan, it is worth considering DFW as a connection point, since DFW and SJU are in excess of 2,000 miles apart.


Royal Jordanian deals between the EU and the Far East
While at the time of writing, this option may not represent the best TP earner, RJ flights between Europe and the Far East do still offer amazing value if you are travelling between the UK and HKG or BKK. Discounted fares beating the current price indicated below are often available when RJ's seasonal fare sales are running. Another way of looking at RJ for travel to the Far East is the AMM connection offers an opportunity to accrue double the number of Tier Points you would otherwise earn travelling direct on BA.



Note: since RJ's AMM-HKG currently operates with a technical stop at BKK, and continues onwards to HKG with the same flight number, the AMM-BKK and BKK-HKG sectors count as one for the purpose of TP accrual.


London Gatwick short haul premium leisure fares
Closer to London, BA's own premium leisure Club Europe fares are not to be sniffed at. Same day hops between Gatwick, Amsterdam, and Jersey are popular by virtue of the absence of Saturday night stay restrictions on many LGW discounted Club Europe fares. AMS sectors typically price out at around 100 per sector (in R class) and at around 90 to/from JER (again in R class)



Pro-active online upgrades (POUG) and airport upgrades offer additional opportunities to squeeze a few extra Tier Points out of deep discount economy BA tickets.


Irregular operations
Irregular operations come part and parcel with air travel. Expect the best but prepare for the worst. In other words, allow plenty of wriggle room in your travel plans, think twice about short connections at MIA during the hurricane season, or at JFK in winter, or at ORD at any time other than spring and fall, noting Chicago's spring and fall seasons while lasting no more than a week each Mother Nature is inclined to blast Chicagoland with her wrath during these short seasons.

Although AA tend to be very helpful rearranging flights, they do often work on the basis of getting you onto the next available service irrespective of fare class. So, for example, If you face a weather related delay they are particularly unwilling to more than that. However if you look at Expert Flyer or KVS before approaching the Admirals Club agent then you can be proactive in making suggestions. Note, in rebooking AA flights, there is a risk of instant upgrades ending up as business or worse, economy. If the next available flight is sold out in first, AA are often open to requests for a seat on the following flight that has seats available in first class. This may involve joining the stand-by list. Working with Gate Agents or AAdmirals Club staff pays dividends. It pays to check revised booking class(es) with the agent. This is your only opportunity to ensure the flights are rebooked into the same class as your original booking (A and/or P), and your Tier Points post as planned.

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Would someone be good enough to post the list of destinations that earn 20/40/80 tier points in O/Y/J classes?
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I will set up a Wiki post, which will allow us to record current best value routes.

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Excellent guide

Would it be possible to separate out the LHR and LGW 80TP CE sectors instead of grouping them all as 'LON'?
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I don't need the TPs, but I was looking at some AA domestic F fares earlier today and the prices were unbelievably high compared to the price I paid a few months ago. Do AA have regular domestic F sales, or does time of year play a part? The route with the biggest discrepancy was the hop from DFW-TUL, which is quoted at more than double - a huge difference for a 1hr flight.
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Waauw, looks great!
I look forward to many great suggestions.
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I don't need the TPs, but I was looking at some AA domestic F fares earlier today and the prices were unbelievably high compared to the price I paid a few months ago. Do AA have regular domestic F sales, or does time of year play a part? The route with the biggest discrepancy was the hop from DFW-TUL, which is quoted at more than double - a huge difference for a 1hr flight.
Were you looking at instant upgrade fares (P class), or First (F/A classes)?
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How far out are you looking?
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Were you looking at instant upgrade fares (P class), or First (F/A classes)?
Discounted F. Instant upgrade was showing as "not available", and this was the same last time I booked.

Edit: Looking 6 weeks out. Booked 4 weeks out last time.
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Great stuff Prospero even though I'm not particularly looking for a TP run right now. However one comment made me sit up quickly as I'm currently toying with booking a LHR-BKK-LHR on RJ. Is this really available for 600-650 (a third) in J during their sales, or do you mean 600-650 off? Does anyone have any idea if their sales follow a regular pattern and roughly when the next one is likely to be?
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Great stuff Prospero even though I'm not particularly looking for a TP run right now. However one comment made me sit up quickly as I'm currently toying with booking a LHR-BKK-LHR on RJ. Is this really available for 600-650 (a third) in J during their sales, or do you mean 600-650 off? Does anyone have any idea if their sales follow a regular pattern and roughly when the next one is likely to be?
Surely it's 600 off? 1200 seems feasible as I regularly pick up similar itineraries on EY for 1500.
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Great stuff Prospero even though I'm not particularly looking for a TP run right now. However one comment made me sit up quickly as I'm currently toying with booking a LHR-BKK-LHR on RJ. Is this really available for 600-650 (a third) in J during their sales, or do you mean 600-650 off? Does anyone have any idea if their sales follow a regular pattern and roughly when the next one is likely to be?
My error. My apologies for the duff info. The current fare indicated is usually beaten during sales periods but never to the extent I had written. Narrative has been duly corrected. Thanks for the feedback.
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LHR-CPT is also over 6,000 miles
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My error. My apologies for the duff info. The current fare indicated is usually beaten during sales periods but never to the extent I had written. Narrative has been duly corrected. Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks. I thought that was too good to be true!
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Is it worth mentioning AY? They're usually worth a look for TP runs.
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