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Old Jan 6, 2013, 5:41 am
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Lucrative runs that have been reported under £3/TP - current availability not guaranteed
Route | Booking class | Fare | Booking channel | TPs | £/TP | credit

American Airlines

SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN | A/A/I | £498 return | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.80/TP | chris1979
ORD-STL-DFW-SJU | A/A/I | £458 return | aa.com | 520 TPs | £0.88/TP | timezonehopper
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-LAS | A/A/I/I/A/A | £581 round trip | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.94/TP | courtster
AMS-LHR-LAX-SFO-JFK-LHR-AMS | I/I/A/A/I/I | £1641 round trip | aa.com | 630 TPs | £2.60/TP | mccorry
IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | £2106 round trip | aa.com | 790TPs | £2.61/TP | nth_utsera_sth_utsera
45 day advance purchase required, minimum stay 7 days.

British Airways
LGW-MLA | R | £248 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.55/TP | LDNConsultant
LGW-RAK | R | £280 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.75/TP | mfgr
Book by 31/12/13 for this price.
JER-LGW-AMS | J/R | £259 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.62/TP | joejet
LGW-JER | R | £181 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.26/TP
LGW-AMS | R | £199 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.49/TP
BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA (last bit on AA) and back | I/I/A | £1,529 return | probably have to phone up | 920 TPs | £1.66/TP | stifle
Outbound 12/4-27/4 or 25/6-24/8, min stay Sat night, ticket by 2/1/14

Royal Jordanian
BEY-AMM-AQJ | D | £255 return | rj.com | 160 TPs | £1.59/TP | DeanB

Malaysia Airlines
SIN-KUL-KCH | D | S$660 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 160 TPs | £2.12/TP |HPN-HRL
DEL-KUL-BKK | Z | INR41,666 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 360TPs| £1.15/TP| Seshy
DEL-KUL-NRT | Z | INR92,395 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.64/TP| Seshy
ICN-KUL-SYD/MEL | Z | KRW1,582,600 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.65/TP| armagebedar
SIN-KUL-DXB | Z | S$1084 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.50/TP | qasr (+long haul equipment on KUL-DXB)
SIN-KUL-TPE | Z | S$1078 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.49/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-DEL | Z | S$1018 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.41/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-KTM | Z | S$1006 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.39/TP | qasr

Qatar Airways
CAI-DOH-BKK | £759 return | D/D/D/A | 360 TPs | £2.10/TP ExpatSomchai
DME-DOH-SGN | I | £1255 return | qatarairways.com | 560 TPs | £2.25/TP |continentalclub
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Old Jan 7, 2013, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mattyw
Hi all, first post!

What are the other decent locations in Asia? I've got a couple of spare days in Osaka in Feb and could do with 330TPs.
Japan will be difficult as its a bit out of the way for CX fares and you're in JAL's home country. Starting something from TPE is probably your best bet if you can get a cheap flight down there.

MH should also be a OW member by then.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 12:46 am
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Originally Posted by phol
MH should also be a OW member by then.
So MH is due to join OW by Feb? I forgot about them after the news about QR joining.

Will MH be shifting to T3 or staying at T4 (presumably they were in T4 because it one point they seemed more closely aligned to SkyTeam). Does MH have their own lounge in T4?
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by layz
So MH is due to join OW by Feb? I forgot about them after the news about QR joining.

Will MH be shifting to T3 or staying at T4 (presumably they were in T4 because it one point they seemed more closely aligned to SkyTeam). Does MH have their own lounge in T4?
1 Feb is the official date of entry. They haven't published what the earning rates will be yet but i'm sure they will be broadly in line with the rest of the alliance.

I dont know anything about their operations sorry, but whatever they end up doing terminal wise not much will change between now and next month.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by phol
A quick Cathay one i looked at:

TPE-HKG-CGK, I, 20775TWD (£440) return, 360TPs, £1.22/TP

TPE is a decent location to start mileage runs from if you're Asia based.
Where did you find these fares as ITA matrix only showing £1500+ on CX for a range of dates in July August. Thanks
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by layz
So MH is due to join OW by Feb? I forgot about them after the news about QR joining.

Will MH be shifting to T3 or staying at T4 (presumably they were in T4 because it one point they seemed more closely aligned to SkyTeam). Does MH have their own lounge in T4?
QR is certainly the bigger fish for me. It means I'll be earning TPs and, more importantly, Avios on those short intra-GCC flights. ^

Same it didn't happen in 2012, I'd have probably had a CCR card by now with the amount of hopper flights I've done.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by binman
Where did you find these fares as ITA matrix only showing £1500+ on CX for a range of dates in July August. Thanks
On Cathay's website for flights in April.
For 8/15 July it books into D class for approx £588.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 3:53 am
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Hi all - my first post here, though I've been reading this forum for a while now. Thank you to all contributors, I have learnt a lot (and just scratching the surface)...

I have a trip upcoming in early May, which can be 'optimised' hopefully

Fixed:
starting in London
visting Omaha
then visiting Las Vegas
then back to London

Here's a restriction - Im only able to leave Omaha late afternoon on a saturday, and I have to be in Las Vegas by Sunday night.

So far, I've come up with:
LHR to DFW - business - 140 TP
DFW to OMA - first - 60 TP

OMA to DFW - first - 60 TP
DFW to MIA - first - 60 TP
MIA to LAS - first - 210 TP

LAS to JFK - first - 210 TP
JFK to LHR - business - 140 TP

This is 850 TP in total, for £3,377 - which is £3.97 / TP.


If I ignore the Miami bit and go OMA to LAS with southwest, then 550 TP for £2027, at £3.68 / TP.

Does anyone have some ideas? This is a business trip with a little bit of flexibility, so I cant do anything too crazy!

Thanks - LondonEagle
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 4:02 am
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Good morning all,

First post and getting used to the TP runs now and as I have more time away from work these days to fly, am aiming for Gold now.

I was looking at a decent run in June this year however I have gone right off my destination that I was going to go to! So I was looking for a decent run again for around the £1300 mark in CW to maximise the amount of TP that I can get.

The best that I can find so far within my budget is an EX EU fare,

MXP- LHR-JFK (overnight)- MCO -MIA (overnight) and returning back to BRU via LHR.

The main thing I want is a trip on a 747 and am flexible enough to start ex EU but do not really want to pay much more. I have done just about all the searches I can on the ITA Matrix site but can not find anything better then this trip, giving 460TP.

I am not really knowledgeable enough to start playing with any more codes but know MCO is a good routing point for "extra" flights.

Would someone with more knowledge on this be able to advise on further routing points at all?

Many thanks
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 4:49 am
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Welcome to FlyerTalk, 7four

You've set a interesting challenge. I cannot find a better fare but it might be possible to get a better yield with MCO as your ultimate destination. Fare ~£1,500 (fare class I7SALE) does exceed your budget cap but would score 600 TPs (40+140+60+60+60+60+140+40)

MXP-LHR-JFK
<24h connection
JFK-MIA
<24h connection
MIA-MCO-MIA same day turnaround
<24h connection
MIA-JFK-LHR-BRU
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by LondonEagle
Hi all - my first post here, though I've been reading this forum for a while now. Thank you to all contributors, I have learnt a lot (and just scratching the surface)...

I have a trip upcoming in early May, which can be 'optimised' hopefully

Fixed:
starting in London
visting Omaha
then visiting Las Vegas
then back to London

Here's a restriction - Im only able to leave Omaha late afternoon on a saturday, and I have to be in Las Vegas by Sunday night.

So far, I've come up with:
LHR to DFW - business - 140 TP
DFW to OMA - first - 60 TP

OMA to DFW - first - 60 TP
DFW to MIA - first - 60 TP
MIA to LAS - first - 210 TP

LAS to JFK - first - 210 TP
JFK to LHR - business - 140 TP

This is 850 TP in total, for £3,377 - which is £3.97 / TP.


If I ignore the Miami bit and go OMA to LAS with southwest, then 550 TP for £2027, at £3.68 / TP.

Does anyone have some ideas? This is a business trip with a little bit of flexibility, so I cant do anything too crazy!

Thanks - LondonEagle
Someone else will be able to better this, I'm sure, but only being able to leave OMA on Sat afternoon and be in LAS on Sun eve means you can't do the really lucrative SJU-HNL run.

My suggestion:

Position yourself to LIN (either on BA or a LCC).

LIN-LHR Club Europe 40TP
LHR-DFW Club World 140TP
DFW-OMA Business 40TP

LAS-JFK Business 140TP
JFK-LHR Club World 140TP
LHR-LIN Club Europe 40TP

That's pricing at 3125EUR on BA (£2550). There may be better options, but someone else will find them quicker than I can. Minimum TPs for this run will be 520.

Then, add the following, booked on AA.com

OMA-DFW First 60TP
DFW-SJU Business 140TP
SJU-MIA Business 40TP
MIA-LAS First 210TP

This prices at £510. It nets an extra 450TPs.

Total cost: £3060, for 970TPs at a cost of £3.15 per TP.

Not a great cost, but as you've got to make the trip to OMA anyway, and you'll be paying for that flight, the extra 80TPs for going from LIN (or 40 if you "miss" your return connection at LHR) and then the add on SJU trip makes for some pretty cheap extra TPs.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by phol
Japan will be difficult as its a bit out of the way for CX fares and you're in JAL's home country. Starting something from TPE is probably your best bet if you can get a cheap flight down there.

MH should also be a OW member by then.
Yes I've looked at Japan and there's nothing doing so TPE it is. Will eyebrows be raised at CGK immigration if I arrive at 2000 and then leave 12 hours later at 0800?
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by Prospero
Welcome to FlyerTalk, 7four

You've set a interesting challenge. I cannot find a better fare but it might be possible to get a better yield with MCO as your ultimate destination. Fare ~£1,500 (fare class I7SALE) does exceed your budget cap but would score 600 TPs (40+140+60+60+60+60+140+40)

MXP-LHR-JFK
<24h connection
JFK-MIA
<24h connection
MIA-MCO-MIA same day turnaround
<24h connection
MIA-JFK-LHR-BRU
Thanks, I will have a play. My date range is the 7th June- 11th June. Not bothered about the destination as long as its safe!! Just found a fare for £1,411-
BRU-LHR (overnight)- JFK-MCO (overnight) MCO-MIA (overnight) MIA-LHR-LIN.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 10:03 am
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Another newbie here (it must be the time of year) so please forgive my clumsiness with the terminology.

We're planning a short vacation trip to Florida 13/2-17/2, and initially just considered a straightforward LGW-MCO-LGW in WTP. However, we're spending the first couple of days in St Pete's and the second couple in Miami, and suddenly it occurred to me that a TP run could in some way fit nicely in the mix.

The obvious opportunity is to go MCO-LAS-MIA on AA in F. But what is the actual mechanism for researching this - from reading here I've gone to americanairlines.co.uk - but is it correct to try and book this as a single multi-city booking? How do I see what TP's I get for the trip? If I accept additional stops on the routing (eg DFW) does that mean that each leg will earn TP's or do I have to explicitly book each leg individually? Finally, the logical day for the run would be Friday 15/2 - but is this a better or worse day to pick (we've got a little flexibility in our dates, although we would like to be in Miami for Saturday 16/2 to meet up with friends).

Sorry for the real basic questions, I'm keen to learn, but it's daunting.

Cheers
Jimmy
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 1:58 pm
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Thanks for the help Wozza! I have a few questions:

Originally Posted by Wozza2404
...
Position yourself to LIN (either on BA or a LCC).

LIN-LHR Club Europe 40TP
LHR-DFW Club World 140TP
DFW-OMA Business 40TP

LAS-JFK Business 140TP
JFK-LHR Club World 140TP
LHR-LIN Club Europe 40TP
....
For the DFW-OMA, should that not be First, at 60 TP?
Also, on the LAS-JFK, shouldnt that be First, at 210 TP?
I'm still trying to learn, maybe we earn 'business' TP despite the ticket saying First..?


Originally Posted by Wozza2404
...

Then, add the following, booked on AA.com

OMA-DFW First 60TP
DFW-SJU Business 140TP
SJU-MIA Business 40TP
MIA-LAS First 210TP

This prices at £510. It nets an extra 450TPs.

....
This sounds very good, but it demands an early flight from OMA, while I am only free from around 4pm-ish. Hmmm.
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Old Jan 8, 2013, 3:47 pm
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For the DFW-OMA, should that not be First, at 60 TP?
Also, on the LAS-JFK, shouldnt that be First, at 210 TP?
I'm still trying to learn, maybe we earn 'business' TP despite the ticket saying First..?
I ran the quote through BA.com which means it lists the AA flights as business, even if AA consider it "first". There's a chance you'll get the extra TPs, but always assume the worst and you can only have your expectations exceeded.

You can try and price it on AA.com, and if you can get it to price at the same cost as on BA, then book through AA as you'll almost certainly be credited the F TPs.



This sounds very good, but it demands an early flight from OMA, while I am only free from around 4pm-ish. Hmmm.
I'm almost certain the itinerary I saw left OMA at 330pm? I'll check.

Edit: Leaves OMA at 130pm.

It's also worth trying a Multi city booking on AA.com for all your flights.

LIN-OMA
OMA-SJU
SJU-LAS (you may need to force the MIA connection)
LAS-JFK
JFK-LIN (you may need to force the LHR connection)

I don't think it will price equal or less than the two bookings, but it's worth 5 minutes to check.
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