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Old Dec 28, 12, 4:31 pm   #1
 
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Question Booking two seats, in two different classes on one flight

Although it may seem stupid and not a good use of money or miles.
Is there any reason why I could not buy a CW reward ticket on a flight that I have a paid WT+ ticket? Can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere. Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 28, 12, 4:32 pm   #2
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Although it may seem stupid and not a good use of money or miles.
Is there any reason why I could not buy a CW reward ticket on a flight that I have a paid WT+ ticket? Can't seem to find the answer to this anywhere. Thanks in advance.
If you can get a CW reward seat on your flight, why not upgrade your paid WT+ ticket to CW?
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Are you talking about 2 seats on the 1 flight using the same passenger name/credentials?

If so, you should use your WT+ ticket and upgrade it with Avios into the CW reward seat, as LTNP has so eloquently put.
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Old Dec 28, 12, 4:44 pm   #4
 
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I have tried this however was a travel agent booking and on the phone to Exec club they told me that it was not possible since it was booked as a bulk fare? I hadn't heard about this before. It's not a group booking since I am travelling on my own. Is what I was told correct or a case of the women not knowing what she is talking about?
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Old Dec 28, 12, 5:04 pm   #5
 
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Could you give us more information, such as fare buckets/codes of the flights you have, and we can try to assist? The routing would also help

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Old Dec 28, 12, 5:17 pm   #6
 
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i'm wondering if you are a "no show" for your WT+ seat, you'll lose the return.
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Old Dec 28, 12, 5:27 pm   #7
 
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I have tried this however was a travel agent booking and on the phone to Exec club they told me that it was not possible since it was booked as a bulk fare? I hadn't heard about this before. It's not a group booking since I am travelling on my own. Is what I was told correct or a case of the women not knowing what she is talking about?
This used to be the case. As of July 17th 2012, you can upgrade your travel agent purchased WT+ tickets (either stand alone 'published fare' tickets or ones that form part of a package holiday - aka inclusive tour fares or IT) to Club World subject to redemption space availability. I have done this twice already (booked T class WT+ to BGI and another to SKB as part of holiday packages then used miles to upgrade). However this only becomes an option for point to point travel. If you have a connecting flight involved then it errors out online and you have to call the call centre. Hit and miss in my experience.
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Old Dec 28, 12, 5:37 pm   #8
 
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Booked into T class. MIA - LHR. Its my inbound flight so no rerun to be cancelled. Am I correct to presume what i'v been told over the phone is totally incorrect?
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Old Dec 28, 12, 5:52 pm   #9
 
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Booked into T class. MIA - LHR. Its my inbound flight so no rerun to be cancelled. Am I correct to presume what i'v been told over the phone is totally incorrect?
Probably better answered by one of the BA Ambassadors who lurk in these rooms but I would be calling back, yes
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Old Dec 28, 12, 7:59 pm   #10
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Booked into T class. MIA - LHR. Its my inbound flight so no rerun to be cancelled. Am I correct to presume what i'v been told over the phone is totally incorrect?
It may be another case of "call again". I would recommend you give BA a call again to see if you get a different answer, because it is quite possible (it should be just on the information that it is a T class).

However for a travel agent booking to be upgradable using Avios, you can't have another carrier on the booking. Do you have a non-BA flight in the same booking?
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Old Dec 28, 12, 8:08 pm   #11
 
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After looking on the page on FT which explained everything about TA MFU's (forgot to copy the link) it does specify that bulk tickets cannot be MFU. This has just given me a reason not to ever, ever book again through Netflights.com. I have just bought a reward ticket for the same flight in CW and will try to get my taxes back from the last leg on my original WT+ ticket. Pretty p***d about netflights!
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Old Dec 28, 12, 8:13 pm   #12
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After looking on the page on FT which explained everything about TA MFU's (forgot to copy the link) it does specify that bulk tickets cannot be MFU. This has just given me a reason not to ever, ever book again through Netflights.com.
It may not be a bulk ticket though (definitely not all TA bookings are) and that the BA agent may have been incorrect. It is still worth calling again to see if your flight can be upgraded.

By the way if you try to cancel your return flight in WT+ now, the fares may be recalculated as one-way and you might not get anything back.
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Old Dec 29, 12, 3:58 am   #13
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After looking on the page on FT which explained everything about TA MFU's (forgot to copy the link) it does specify that bulk tickets cannot be MFU. This has just given me a reason not to ever, ever book again through Netflights.com. I have just bought a reward ticket for the same flight in CW and will try to get my taxes back from the last leg on my original WT+ ticket. Pretty p***d about netflights!
Yes I am afraid that is a limitation of Bulk and certain other travel agent tickets. What happens sometimes is that say a cruise company buys a wadge of tickets off BA super-cheap, spare tickets end up on the travel agent market and then sold off, sometimes piecemeal. I don't think you can blame Netflights, it's a factor of the market and many Agents do it. These tickets are cheap for a reason. You should be able to do an Airport Upgrade Promotion on a Bulk though. But indeed LTN Phobia is correct, most TA tickets would not be Bulks or related "Included Tour" tickets. It used to be a massive feature of the market, remember the days of the Consolidators? I think BA, and other airlines, have tried to rein this in more recently.

In terms of your original question, I would change your name slightly between the tickets (e.g. by adding a middle initial or spelling out your middle name). I have the same name as my father and it did cause problems over the years.
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Old Dec 29, 12, 2:37 pm   #14
 
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I recall a colleague in the mid Eighties who used to claim that he booked two tickets, one refundable in First, one in Coach. He'd print off both sets of boarding passes, check in using the coach ticket and board using the First BP. Upon return he'd refund the First ticket. He claimed to do this by omitting the space present in his surname pn one booking which led to his two personae being greatly spaced on the manifest.

I have no clue if he was just winding up a young and impressionable Deckard.
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Old Dec 29, 12, 2:59 pm   #15
 
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I recall a colleague in the mid Eighties who used to claim that he booked two tickets, one refundable in First, one in Coach. He'd print off both sets of boarding passes, check in using the coach ticket and board using the First BP. Upon return he'd refund the First ticket. He claimed to do this by omitting the space present in his surname pn one booking which led to his two personae being greatly spaced on the manifest.

I have no clue if he was just winding up a young and impressionable Deckard.
Seems hard to imagine that he'd be allowed to get on board using a BP that hadn't been "checked-in." And if so, harder still to imagine he'd be be permitted a refund for it after having used it to get on board!

For that matter, if indeed mid-eighties, I'm having a hard time figuring out how he'd ever get a boarding pass without checking in at the airport check-in counter first, as that's how things generally worked back then...

Back to the OP's situation, I unfortunately don't have a clue as to whether the WTP segment can be upgraded using Avios, but if not, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to buy the CW ticket using Avios and cancel/no-show the final leg of a WTP booking. Frustrating, though...
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