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Old Dec 20, 12, 5:04 pm   #1
 
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Same PNR, separate check in possible?

We're flying out this Sunday to Milan - 4 of us on the one booking. I'd like to drop them off at T5 with bags, and then I will go and park the car.

Assuming we can do online check in, Is it possible for the the other three to drop the bags and go through security? I'll come later, on my own with only hand luggage.
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Old Dec 20, 12, 5:09 pm   #2
 
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Yes. No problem at all.
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Old Dec 20, 12, 11:36 pm   #3
 
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Yes, I've done it myself and it shouldn't be a problem at all, so long as you both have your boarding passes (PYOBP?).
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Old Dec 21, 12, 12:27 am   #4
 
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Agreed - we do it all the time. However, does the OP have luggage to be checked into the hold; the question implies that they might and their friends are checking it in on his behalf. Technically I suppose this is wrong but also it might send them over their luggage allowance?
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Old Dec 21, 12, 1:26 am   #5
 
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Agreed - we do it all the time. However, does the OP have luggage to be checked into the hold; the question implies that they might and their friends are checking it in on his behalf. Technically I suppose this is wrong but also it might send them over their luggage allowance?
Correct.

The others will not be able to check the 'OP's bag' in on his behalf. They can check the bag in as theirs, if they have sufficient baggage allowance between themselves to do so.

And, as Tuff says, they would technically, in theory, have had to have packed the bags themselves. Of course.
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:06 am   #6
 
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And, as Tuff says, they would technically, in theory, have had to have packed the bags themselves. Of course.
Is that so - even in theory?

I know people who travel who never pack their own bags on the outward sector. I had always assumed that it was permissable to answer 'no' to the question and that would lead to more careful scrutiny. I didn't think it was prohibited. But maybe everyone just says 'yes' anyway... ?
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:10 am   #7
 
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Correct.

The others will not be able to check the 'OP's bag' in on his behalf. They can check the bag in as theirs, if they have sufficient baggage allowance between themselves to do so.

And, as Tuff says, they would technically, in theory, have had to have packed the bags themselves. Of course.
Why only 'technically, in theory'? I don't want to fly on a plane where a mule has checked in a bag without knowing what's in it.
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:22 am   #8
 
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Is that so - even in theory?

I know people who travel who never pack their own bags on the outward sector. I had always assumed that it was permissable to answer 'no' to the question and that would lead to more careful scrutiny. I didn't think it was prohibited. But maybe everyone just says 'yes' anyway... ?
Yes it is: in theory and in practice. In very specific circumstances, I had a number of options in terms of transporting some luggage that had clearly not been packed by me.

Flying with it, even with extra screening, was not offered as an option - and I'm not aware of any process (at T5) which would allow for non self-packed bags to be 'siphoned-off' behind the scenes.

The use of 'technically, in theory' etc is merely a nod to the likely experiences of other parishioners hereabouts.
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:27 am   #9
 
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That's interesting.

Does anyone have a reference for T&Cs that state the bags must be packed by the traveller?
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:38 am   #10
 
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Is that so - even in theory?

I know people who travel who never pack their own bags on the outward sector. I had always assumed that it was permissable to answer 'no' to the question and that would lead to more careful scrutiny. I didn't think it was prohibited. But maybe everyone just says 'yes' anyway... ?
Does anyone really ever answer "no" to that question? In my case, I have to admit that the "myself" definition extends to the wife and possibly other family members depending on circumstances. Perhaps I shouldn't mention that on a interweb forum.....
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:39 am   #11
 
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That's interesting.

Does anyone have a reference for T&Cs that state the bags must be packed by the traveller?
It is a security question when you check-in (online or at the kiosk/desk).
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:41 am   #12
 
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I've answered 'no' in the past. Not for a few years, and it was probably on AA back then.

I know I did it at LHR quite a few times. They just took my bag away for a minute or two, brought it back, tagged it up and off it went.
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Old Dec 21, 12, 2:44 am   #13
 
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It is a security question when you check-in (online or at the kiosk/desk).
Exactly - that's my point. As it's a question then presumably the process allows for more than one answer.

If bags must be packed by the passenger, what happens to the honest Joe who says they didn't pack theirs? Seems a bit harsh to not allow them/the bag to travel if there's no previous information to that effect.
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A little digging suggests that the 'standard' checkin questions were originally mandated by the UK DfT, but it looks as though the legal requirement was dropped in about 2010. I can't find anything official to support that, though.

Despite that (if true), it's further suggested that many airlines and handling agents decided not to change the scripts used at desks and online, and the practice persists.

Thinking back, my specific experience was indeed back in 2010.

One does wonder what one would say if one's butler generally packs one's trunk.
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Old Dec 21, 12, 3:09 am   #15
 
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I reckon there must be a fair few who don't pack there own bags but still check them in themselves.

I bet the Queen and the PM don't pack their own bags!!
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