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Old Dec 17, 12, 11:48 am   #1
 
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I can't join On Business because I only have one travelling employee!

I was about to sign up to On Business today but was disappointed to see that my business has to have at least two travelling employees to be eligible.



Does anybody know why this is the case? Many thanks in advance!

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Old Dec 17, 12, 11:54 am   #2
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IIRC it used to be 4, they reduced it when they did the last revamp.
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Old Dec 17, 12, 11:56 am   #3
 
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Months ago I was wondering how this is enforced. How does the sign-up process work?

If I, for instance, could find a "colleague" (=friend or relative) who could work for me, once we'd both credited a flight to OnBusiness would it be all systems go?

Or if that won't work, could we sign up as some kind of FT collective, perhaps?
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Old Dec 17, 12, 11:58 am   #4
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Can you not just make someone you know an employee?
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Old Dec 17, 12, 12:22 pm   #5
 
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Can you not just make someone you know an employee?
...but does BA (attempt to) check and if so how?
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I don't think it is that hard and fast as you may genuinely have different travel policies for different employees. It would be wise however to mix up credit. In many small businesses the spouse is also part of the business on either a part time or full time basis and thus may the 2nd travelling employee.
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Old Dec 17, 12, 2:15 pm   #7
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...but does BA (attempt to) check and if so how?
No idea.

I once had a look at the programme with a view to joining it. We have 5 employees on the books.
After seeing you had to actually fly to earn points I decided it wasn't really for us.
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Old Dec 17, 12, 4:14 pm   #8
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Often wondered about this myself, and debated whether I could add three people to my business to get an account.
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Old Dec 17, 12, 4:18 pm   #9
 
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Sixth Freedom,

To be honest, as a small business, you're better off spending the time and energy making friends with a respectable travel agent that's got a good relationship with BA. ;-)

They'll get you good deals on hotels and flights that will often beat anything you can make up through Avios redemption.
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Old Dec 17, 12, 4:26 pm   #10
 
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Does anybody know why this is the case? Many thanks in advance!

Primarily to stop people from just signing up to OB to double-dip with Avios.

You can always join my company's OB account
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Old Dec 18, 12, 12:26 am   #11
 
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You do need two employees, although the definition of employees is not given. In the real world this is quite wide, and small companies are usually familiar with interpreting rules widely. You will need to declare these people during application as one will be the administrator and one the authoriser of the account. Not both of these have to travel. Once your company is up and running BA may well check that flights are being taken by more than one person. As far as I can see this is the only time they could check easily the OB company is not being used as a front for an individual. But the BA rules of who can earn are very wide and include consultants and contractors working on company business. So I would concentrate your efforts on ensuring more than one employee, consultant or contractor is travelling on the account.
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Old Dec 18, 12, 12:34 am   #12
 
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Dont you have a cat you could "employ" ?
I used to own a shop and lived in the same building, the cats used to come down during the day to "work" with me and were well known in the town, when I asked the tax chap about tax implications of my "advertising cats" he said that I couldnt claim anything for them as I had personal use of them out of hours!!
The same tax man that said "just total up the years takings dear, while I pop outside for a cigar"
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Old Dec 18, 12, 12:40 am   #13
 
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If BA can have cabin crew called Pucci Galore I see no reason why On Business cannot have members called Pussy Galore. The concept of tax efficient cats is beyond me though, my dear, so I'm off outside for a cigar.
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Old Dec 18, 12, 12:50 am   #14
 
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I was about to sign up to On Business today but was disappointed to see that my business has to have at least two travelling employees to be eligible.



Does anybody know why this is the case? Many thanks in advance!

I guess it is to stop everyone "double dipping" Avios and points. I opened an On Business account for my mother-in-law's property business, but then they insisted on a corporate e-mail address for the company, which I didn't have. They don't seem to be toooooo strict about employees - my 18 month old son has travelled with her whilst she has gone to look at properties overseas and points have been credited for him.
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Old Dec 18, 12, 1:21 am   #15
 
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...my 18 month old son has travelled with her whilst she has gone to look at properties overseas and points have been credited for him.
Oh yes, the consultant loophole. I always thought pWc consultants were looking younger because I was getting older. Now I know there really are teenagers!
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