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Sadly its not uncommon in all walks of life now a days.
If he had been abusive to crew it would of been in the air, and he deserves to have a trip to the nick and have a few words.
Sadly the courts dont tend to take physical and verbal abuse of various professions serious enough and its about time it was cracked down on.
Obviously, there is a chance that said punter didnt actually do anything wrong, innocent until proven and all that
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Saw a big name Hollywood star 'escorted' from an LAX-LAS once. Also for being uncooperative with CC. I was sitting across the aisle from him. Better not mention his name.
Something similar happened on a Ryanair Malta to Edinburgh flight recently. All boarded at Malta but delayed 20 minutes while they found a missing passenger - eventually the guy arrived and clearly didn't care he'd delayed the rest of us, wandering around with his shades on pretending to be all cool.
Halfway through the flight the captain came over the tannoy saying someone had been caught smoking in the toilets and would be dealt with on arrival into Edinburgh, and he was (rightly) seriously annoyed.
Landed at Edinburgh, asked to stay in our seats, police come on board and funnily enough it was the same guy that held up the plane!!
They took him off the plane, had a few words while we all got on the bus, and then let him get on the same bus as us (the bus waited for him - delayed again!). Myself and the rest of the passengers were seriously annoyed by now - smoking on a plane endangers the lives of everyone on board yet this guy was just given a slap on the wrists - the least I'd have expected was to be carted off to a police area in the airport for a couple of hours.
Being honest being from Edinburgh I was embarrassed at how the airport police dealt with it, especially in full view of the other (annoyed) passengers.
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Originally Posted by SRG
smoking on a plane endangers the lives of everyone on board .
Not sure when you were born but we used to smoke on planes and no one was endangered! It was only when the smoking in confined spaces movement became popular that airlines banned smoking on aircraft - it was in response to a public outcry from a lot of folks who didn't like being in a confined space with cigarette smoke. Can't say as I blame 'em but it wasn't anything to do with in flight smoking endangering the aircraft. Heavens, I remember looking down the aisle and thinking someone had set off a fog machine!
Now it is a somewhat different situation on the ground where there may be JP4 fumes, etc. though even then some pilots will say the danger was pretty minimal if one was smoking within the aircraft.
.....Myself and the rest of the passengers were seriously annoyed by now - smoking on a plane endangers the lives of everyone on board....
Was it ever "dangerous" though? Until about 20 years ago it was allowed on most airlines and not considered dangerous. And this was on aircraft without the current generation of fire resistant / low smoke / low toxicity materials that are now mandatory.
Was it subsequently banned on aircraft because it became "dangerous"? Or banned because of passenger comfort?
Your FT handle I see is "SRG" - hope you are who I hope you might be
Not sure when you were born but we used to smoke on planes and no one was endangered!
Sorry, I should have clarified - smoking in the toilets and disposing of the cigarette in the bin without it being totally snubbed out is what I mean. Example.
Your FT handle I see is "SRG" - hope you are who I hope you might be
Sadly not - it was a couple of years after registering I noticed some people referred to sunrisegirl as SRG for short - considered changing my username (if possible?) as a result but I see now she's no longer on the forum
Not sure when you were born but we used to smoke on planes and no one was endangered! (Snip)
Sure you were! A couple of examples from personal experience.
On a charter flight to Tenerife (I was much, much younger then!) the crew ended up fighting a small fire in a toilet. All was well and we carried on our way.
On a flight across Europe, to Italy IIRC, rubbish under the seats was set alight at the back of the plane. Luckily it just smouldered, producing smoke. As it was not clear where the smoke was coming from at first we diverted and landed at some tin pot little airport in France. The landing was fast, and I mean fast. Definitely a brown trouser experience.
I am sure crew on the board would be able to tell you a long, long list of horror stories about smoking on planes. And those more knowledgable than me would be able to tell you some official statistics.
@ CornishSimon - unfortunately you are right about the seriousness the legal system places on this sort of behaviour. Our office was shot at by a group of young people with air rifles. Three windows were taken out and one staff member was showered with glass. She was scared witless. We managed to get hold of the little darlings, and called the police. Outcome - sod all. But when I was charged with doing 36 in a 30 (4th offence and this was the most serious, one was for 33 in a 30!) I ended up with a legal bill of a couple of thousand for (successfully) defending myself.
A guy on a my flight from ARN-LCY was arrested on arrival at City airport a few weeks ago. Pilot told us to stay seated, police boarded & took the guy off (near the back of the plane) by the rear doors. No obvious fuss - I suspect he was someone they had a warrant for, rather than having done anything on the flight itself.
I was refused a beer on board LHR-JFK & informed that prisoners in transit were not allowed alcohol!?
To say that I was taken aback was an understatement.
I remonstrated & the CC then asked the gent next to me if I was the correct person. He was laughing at this stage & explained that he had dropped the prisoner off in London & was returning. \
Many apologises ensued & the drinks flowed.
I did ask the big question but the officer explained that he couldn't talk about it.
I was refused a beer on board LHR-JFK & informed that prisoners in transit were not allowed alcohol!?
To say that I was taken aback was an understatement.
I remonstrated & the CC then asked the gent next to me if I was the correct person. He was laughing at this stage & explained that he had dropped the prisoner off in London & was returning. \
Many apologises ensued & the drinks flowed.
I did ask the big question but the officer explained that he couldn't talk about it.
