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Old Dec 12, 12, 12:51 pm   #1
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JER - BA schedule changes

Just had an email from BA Customer Services, "regretting to inform" me of some schedule changes for JER-LGW next May. Esentially, the mid-day flights have been pushed to the ends of the day: still 5-a-day, but very different timings. You fly early or late, and there's nothing in the middle.

Personally, it's a huge PITA and is going to cost us extra for cat boarding, and will involve a huge amount of sitting around or a very questionable MCT for LHR-LGW after a TATL.

However, any TP-Runners might like to note what's on offer in May/Jun 2013. I suspect you will have to exploit dummy bookings yourselves to see 'when', as BA doesn't actually publish a Timetable (as in a Table of Times). So I will …
ETDs as follows:
JER>LGW
0700 2769
0855 2771
1035 2773 [was 1335]

1700 2775 … UPDATE: now showing as 1335 again, the original 2773 schedule.
2010 2777

LGW>JER
0720 2770
0900 2772 [was 1200]

1530 2774 … UPDATE: now showing as 1205 again, the original 2772 schedule.
1830 2776
1920 2778

It's hard enough getting on and off The Rock. This becomes a potential tipping point for us, when we're always connecting at LHR to the USA. BA has effectively added an extra day to the round trip.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:04 pm   #2
 
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Looks like the 2776 is also later as well!


Flight Number: BA2776
From: .........Gatwick (London)
To: ...........Jersey

Original departure time: 28 Apr 2013 18:20
New departure time: .....28 Apr 2013 19:10

Original arrival time: ..28 Apr 2013 19:15
New arrival time: .......28 Apr 2013 20:05
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:15 pm   #3
 
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Just had an email from BA Customer Services, "regretting to inform" me of some schedule changes for JER-LGW next May. Esentially, the mid-day flights have been pushed to the ends of the day: still 5-a-day, but very different timings. You fly early or late, and there's nothing in the middle.

Personally, it's a huge PITA and is going to cost us extra for cat boarding, and will involve a huge amount of sitting around or a very questionable MCT for LHR-LGW after a TATL.

However, any TP-Runners might like to note what's on offer in May/Jun 2013. I suspect you will have to exploit dummy bookings yourselves to see 'when', as BA doesn't actually publish a Timetable (as in a Table of Times). So I will …
ETDs as follows:
JER>LGW
0700 2769
0855 2771
1035 2773 [was 1335]

1700 2775
2010 2777

LGW>JER
0720 2770
0900 2772 [was 1200]

1530 2774
1830 2776
1920 2778

It's hard enough getting on and off The Rock. This becomes a potential tipping point for us, when we're always connecting at LHR to the USA. BA has effectively added an extra day to the round trip.
This and the loss of LGW-MAN flights has led me to conclude that BA does not want me to have my long weekends in Jersey anymore.

Time to send in the bears to Waterside.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:15 pm   #4
 
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Must be my fault - I go and use the 11:50 LGW-JER and 13:30 JER-LGW twice in the same week and they take them away.

Interestingly, on my return I was sent a questionaire about flight timings on this very route. I did NOT indicate alterations either of the middle-of-day flights was required.

Also, the 11:50/13:30 combination made for a very convenient TP run. Breakfast at Gatters beforehand; Starter on the way out and Main on the return .. assuming CE of course which no doubt you would be for a TP run.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:16 pm   #5
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Oh, what fun. Britain is cut off from Jersey during the middle of the day.

Plan F**** could be JER-LCY and then Onward to LHR. That will be cheap/easy. Damn you, BA. I am really p****d by this change. And, yes, I will be calling BAEC to see what they reckon about their MCT to LGW. Arrive at LHR 0650, the Border Lottery followed by the M25, and they suggest we will get the 0900 from LGW? Having a laugh, eh?
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:21 pm   #6
 
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JER - BA reschedules the mid-day flights.

Does anyone else fly to JER from up north other than the summer only weekly Flybe from my local, HUY?
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MCT is 3 hours LHR-LGW. Even that is tight...
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Old Dec 12, 12, 1:29 pm   #8
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I too am completely baffled by this, not least because the 2773 was always busy, especially with connecting pax. On the last couple of occasions it has been completely full in both cabins. If it aint broke...

Similarly the re-timing of the 2777 late evening flight into LGW is unhelpful if you are bound for anywhere beyond Central London, particularly if it is late as usual.

Then again, I find BA's whole strategy for JER incomprehensible. The route is presumably a cash cow given the short sector and the healthy loads in both cabins, and yet it remains at LGW with the creaking 737s (and now curiously timed flights). Blue Islands and BE are both now offering decent competition - the LCY flight is usually full, and BE's punctuality knocks BA into a cocked hat. When are BA going to wake up and refine their offering (preferably to LHR or LCY as well)...??
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I'm on the 8:20am flight to JER this weekend and coming back on the 6pm flight as I like to spend some time there rather than in and out.
Normally favour the 11:20am one as it's easy to get to LGW without an overnight stay.

Might be still OK with nested bookings?
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Perhaps the solution is to take BA292 from IAD to reduce your connecting time down to 4.5hrs. Not ideal obviously but you almost make the time back.
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:04 pm   #11
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Perhaps the solution is to take BA292 from IAD to reduce your connecting time down to 4.5hrs. Not ideal obviously but you almost make the time back.
Yeah, at our age we really fancy hanging around until 2230 to get on the overnight!! I know what you mean, but no thanks!

It's a total scramble of our personal plans, and those of the other 2 family members joining us. I'll wait until the morning to clear our heads and talk to BAEC, but it's a complete destruction of a route we've been using contentedly twice a year for the last 5 years. Yes, other timings exist - if you're young, or want to spend 6 hours in a Lounge waiting for the next flight.

I now have to seriously consider the implications of telling BA to stuff it, fly someone else, lose TPs and status and consider excess baggage costs. We do come home 'heavy'. This could send us to VS, embarrassing and expensive though that would be. Or … we could move back to UK?
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With the flights all at similar times now maybe it might make sense to move a couple of them to Heathrow?
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Bring the cats over to LGW they can stay with me!
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Old Dec 12, 12, 2:33 pm   #14
 
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It's better in June

7th June
LGW- JER
7.20. BA2770
9.00. BA2772
14.05. BA2774
18.30. BA2776
19.45. BA2778

9th June
JER- LGW
7.05. BA2769
8.55. BA2771
14.10. BA2773
17.40. BA2775
20.40. BA2777


I was looking at some May dates and some days there seemed to only be 3 flights, prehaps a LHR connection is on its way (well I live in hope).
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Old Dec 12, 12, 3:11 pm   #15
 
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Would have thought with Jersey being prone to fog, some of the early and late flights would be slap bang in the thick of it.

The 11:50am flight from LGW on Saturday always seem to be full in CE and a good 70-80% full down the back.

Maybe they are looking at a LHR flight around lunchtime as that's where the biggest gap seems to be?

Eaasyjet are starting a service around May/June from Newcastle on Tues/Sat, mid-afternoon. I think.

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