CONFIRMED: BA B787 & A380 layouts
Dec 10, 2012, 10:17 pm
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Boarding the A380 will be interesting, with CW pax fighting with WTP and WT for both decks 
Dec 11, 2012, 12:44 am
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Official seat maps for A380 and B787 published
Just appeared on Business Traveller.
Seems there are a few more loos than we thought!
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...yout-confirmed
Seems there are a few more loos than we thought!
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...yout-confirmed
Dec 11, 2012, 1:14 am
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Just appeared on Business Traveller.
Seems there are a few more loos than we thought!
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...yout-confirmed
Seems there are a few more loos than we thought!
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...yout-confirmed
Dec 11, 2012, 1:21 am
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The seating decisions will have been made by BA having to carefully balance customer comfort whilst on board and convencience and speed whilst embarking and disembarking. BA's call and not a lot we can do about it I suppose...
But this is not a good quote:
Walsh said that although there is room for lounges on C, at present there are no plans for adding them, so passengers with access to the lounges will presumably use the lounges in the main terminal or B.
So what if there are weather or other delays? Passengers will have to schlep backwards and forwards for miles to a lounge... certainly not a good experience for F customers for eaxmple whom are being sold a (quite expensive) premium service!
But this is not a good quote:
Walsh said that although there is room for lounges on C, at present there are no plans for adding them, so passengers with access to the lounges will presumably use the lounges in the main terminal or B.
So what if there are weather or other delays? Passengers will have to schlep backwards and forwards for miles to a lounge... certainly not a good experience for F customers for eaxmple whom are being sold a (quite expensive) premium service!
Dec 11, 2012, 1:22 am
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Not necessarily!
A three is more comfortable than a pair if there is nobody in the middle seat. And the middle seats may be more likely to be empty than one of a pair.
Furthermore, in a set of three there is a 50% chance that the centre passenger will not climb over you. In a pair there is a 100% chance that the window passenger will climb over you.
3-3-3 has one advantage over 2-4-2: passengers experience a guaranteed empty seat next to them at 67% seat factor or below. With 2-4-2 the critical seat factor is 50%. And planes are more likely to be 51% full then 68%.
A three is more comfortable than a pair if there is nobody in the middle seat. And the middle seats may be more likely to be empty than one of a pair.
Furthermore, in a set of three there is a 50% chance that the centre passenger will not climb over you. In a pair there is a 100% chance that the window passenger will climb over you.
3-3-3 has one advantage over 2-4-2: passengers experience a guaranteed empty seat next to them at 67% seat factor or below. With 2-4-2 the critical seat factor is 50%. And planes are more likely to be 51% full then 68%.
Dec 11, 2012, 1:26 am
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How would UD passengers use the Club Kitchen?
Dec 11, 2012, 1:27 am
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It may be just me, but I can't think of anything worse than being stuck in one of those middle CW seats on the 787, being 'spied' upon from either side!!
Must say I'm a bit disappointed that A380 hasn't kept the top deck premium cabins only..... I'm sure there's a reason for it that a lowly person like me isn't quite getting.........
Must say I'm a bit disappointed that A380 hasn't kept the top deck premium cabins only..... I'm sure there's a reason for it that a lowly person like me isn't quite getting.........
Dec 11, 2012, 1:38 am
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A bit strange to split CW onto two decks. Assuming a large traveling party is split between cabins, that's a long trek aft, down and forward to hook up (bypassing F).
OTOH, it does allow WT+ pax a decent chance at disembarking quickly and being in front of Y pax into immigration lines.
OTOH, it does allow WT+ pax a decent chance at disembarking quickly and being in front of Y pax into immigration lines.
(or a really late booking after an even number all the seats, UD and LD, had been nabbed.)
Dec 11, 2012, 1:49 am
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Exactly. I have been prevented from venturing upstairs (from a downstairs seat) for "security reasons". But while in an UD seat have wandered around (up and down stairs) unimpeded.
Dec 11, 2012, 1:59 am
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It is shocking to hear that they have no plan for premium lounges at Satellite C. You are basically parking these "premium" planes all at Satellite C but not having the facilities to go with it is a bad decision. For first class passengers, they will have to leave the lounge 45 to 60 minutes prior to departure time to get from the Concord Room to Satellite C for their supposedly A380 premium experience. It makes zero sense to me. Even if they use Satellite B lounge, passengers will need to allocate extra fifteen minutes to get over to C.
I don't understand the nine abreast seating at 787 used by major airlines. It is fine for a LCC or a charter airline, but if you claim to be a full service airline, 17 inches width is really not acceptable for a long haul flight. But I guess times have changed and the line between LCC and major full service airlines has blurred further.
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I don't understand the nine abreast seating at 787 used by major airlines. It is fine for a LCC or a charter airline, but if you claim to be a full service airline, 17 inches width is really not acceptable for a long haul flight. But I guess times have changed and the line between LCC and major full service airlines has blurred further.
Carfield
Dec 11, 2012, 2:00 am
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So let me just add my +1 ^
Dec 11, 2012, 2:00 am
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!! 4 lavatories appear to be shared between the WT and WTP cabins (159 passengers) on the upper deck.Even assuming passengers will go up and down the stairs in a no-doubt futile attempt to find an empty lavatory, I think there will be a lot of leg-crossing on the lower deck.