Go Back   FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airline Programs > British Airways Executive Club
Sign in using an external account

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Dec 5, 12, 7:23 am   #1
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: in a cabin
Posts: 4,079
BA plane hit by de-icing machine ARN...

Things are not going well in Stockholm due to intense Blizzards and snow.
Buses, trains are all shut down with parts of the roads closed.

And then a de-icing truck crashed into BA771 or 775.
Witnesses say the engine was destroyed. This happened after the plane had been on the ground for 5 hours and finally had got clearance to depart for LHR.


Photo from Svenska Dagbladet (www.svd.se)
What bad luck.

That's all the info I have at the moment.
__________________
BA, enhanced experience.
Petrus is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 7:32 am   #2
Ambassador: British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Gold; Flying Blue Platinum for life; LH Senator; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 3,800
Oh dear.

However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude? The reason I ask is that a quick search here will find loads of "Sweden can handle snow so well" (it would be ungallant of me to post the links but there are plenty of them), when my corner of England has had a lot more snow than this for nearly a week now and life continues.
__________________
We're glad you're here.
Next British Airways Do - Friday 7 June, Parliament Panorama, Westminster Bridge. Please come along!
corporate-wage-slave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 7:34 am   #3
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: France
Programs: MUCCI and many lesser distinctions courtesy of airlines
Posts: 1,436
If it's one of the engines that is going to be a big insurance claim
HighLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 7:37 am   #4
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR outer approaches
Programs: MUCCI, BA Blue
Posts: 1,680
Oh dear. Love to know how that happened. Did the truck slide because of unsuitable tyres?
__________________
My employer says I'm not allowed to tell you their opinion
exilencfc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 7:42 am   #5
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: A Scot in Provincia de Buenos Aires
Posts: 26,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Oh dear.

However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude? The reason I ask is that a quick search here will find loads of "Sweden can handle snow so well" (it would be ungallant of me to post the links but there are plenty of them), when my corner of England has had a lot more snow than this for nearly a week now and life continues.
Very good.

ARN Departures/Arrivals looks a shambles at the moment.
__________________
Don't let the Walter Mitty's get you down....
HIDDY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:15 am   #6
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: London, Berlin
Programs: BA (Gold). Virgin (Gold), Amex Centurion, SPG (Platinum), Hilton Honours (Diamond), BMI (Gold)
Posts: 680
Quote:
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Oh dear.

However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude?
The nearest I can get is skadeglädje which is a direct translation. They probably use Schadenfreude like we do!
__________________
It doesn't matter if the glass is half empty or half full. There is clearly room for more wine.
tuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:21 am   #7
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: in a cabin
Posts: 4,079
Quote:
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Oh dear.

However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude? The reason I ask is that a quick search here will find loads of "Sweden can handle snow so well" (it would be ungallant of me to post the links but there are plenty of them), when my corner of England has had a lot more snow than this for nearly a week now and life continues.
A lot more snow than what? Conditions are actually bad even for Sweden with nearly half a meter of snow the last 24 hours, and very strong winds.

Usually airports here deal with snow without delays. About 20 trucks clearing snow, problem is it is falling at such a rate and it is freezing so runways have to be cleared almost non-stop.
__________________
BA, enhanced experience.
Petrus is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:27 am   #8
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, Skywards Pleb, Marriott Platinum Premiere, SPG Gold
Posts: 6,393
Do BA planes attract ground vehicles or something?

That's the 3rd one this year that's had a prang!
DYKWIA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:29 am   #9
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sometimes I don't even know myself
Programs: Travel disruption magnet
Posts: 12,022
Quote:
Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
Do BA planes attract ground vehicles or something?

That's the 3rd one this year that's had a prang!

Aircraft damage by ground vehicles is extremely common unfortunately, so it's not BA being a ground vehicle damage magnet. If they really had only 3 this year, BA might even have a ground vehicle damage repellent
LTN Phobia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:31 am   #10
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: not far from MUC
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 2,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude? The reason I ask is that a quick search here will find loads of "Sweden can handle snow so well" (it would be ungallant of me to post the links but there are plenty of them), when my corner of England has had a lot more snow than this for nearly a week now and life continues.
I would respectfully suggest that if they are struggling with the wind and snow in Stockholm then London would be shut down completely under similar conditions! If you want to see how to keep an airport open in winter then go visit LLA or AJR (we've been to both, in January both times).

I've just come off the phone to someone who works in central Stockholm, he's having to leave his car parked at work and take the train home because driving is so dire...

I'm due to visit ARN on Sunday/Monday. Hmm... What's the phrase LTN Phobia uses? "Travel disruption magnet"...
shorthauldad is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:39 am   #11
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 18,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrus View Post
A lot more snow than what? Conditions are actually bad even for Sweden with nearly half a meter of snow the last 24 hours, and very strong winds.

Usually airports here deal with snow without delays. About 20 trucks clearing snow, problem is it is falling at such a rate and it is freezing so runways have to be cleared almost non-stop.
It probably demonstrates that every airport that's liable to be significantly affected by winter weather will be likely to have some disruption every year - simply because it's simply not cost effective to equip yourself to deal with all winter weather, whatever the level of winter weather that you'd normally get at the airport in question.
__________________
Training for thousands of hours for the Paralympics = Elite
Sitting for thousands of hours on an airline seat ≠ Elite
Globaliser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 8:42 am   #12
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 18,397
Quote:
Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
Do BA planes attract ground vehicles or something?

That's the 3rd one this year that's had a prang!
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTN Phobia View Post
Aircraft damage by ground vehicles is extremely common unfortunately ...
The cost to the industry of ramp accidents worldwide is something in the region of $10 billion every year.
__________________
Training for thousands of hours for the Paralympics = Elite
Sitting for thousands of hours on an airline seat ≠ Elite
Globaliser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 9:05 am   #13
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 449
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTN Phobia View Post
Aircraft damage by ground vehicles is extremely common unfortunately, so it's not BA being a ground vehicle damage magnet. If they really had only 3 this year, BA might even have a ground vehicle damage repellent
Surely the ground handling company will claim 'extraordinary circumstances' to wriggle out of any claim....!
Centipede100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 9:24 am   #14
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: not far from MUC
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 2,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Globaliser View Post
It probably demonstrates that every airport that's liable to be significantly affected by winter weather will be likely to have some disruption every year - simply because it's simply not cost effective to equip yourself to deal with all winter weather, whatever the level of winter weather that you'd normally get at the airport in question.
Indeed.

One of things that you notice if you see winter operations at MUC (or indeed ARN) is that when there is prolonged heavy snowfall then one needs a fair bit of free space to put all the snow. You see snow being collected and moved using big trucks and dumped in designated areas at the ends of the airfield. Massive heaps of slowly-melting snow can still be seen well into the Spring

I suspect LHR doesn't really have much spare space (a) to put lots and lots of snow, and (b) to put all the aircraft while they cleared snow from stands and taxiways. So even if Santa handed over a few million and HAL suddenly acquired the same amount of snow-ploughing, -collecting and -moving equipment as MUC or ARN has, it wouldn't fix everything overnight.

MUC has its bad days - I think often more due to poor visibilty than snow per se. A few years back I'm sure I heard they had an aircraft come off either a runway or taxiway (very gently) but which effectively meant they were down to one runway instead of two, during a snowstorm. That wasn't pretty. I arrived much later that night and most of the chaos had subsided by then...
shorthauldad is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Dec 5, 12, 10:19 am   #15
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London, England
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 687
Quote:
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
Oh dear.

However, is there a Swedish word for Schadenfreude? The reason I ask is that a quick search here will find loads of "Sweden can handle snow so well" (it would be ungallant of me to post the links but there are plenty of them), when my corner of England has had a lot more snow than this for nearly a week now and life continues.
Not quite Schadenfreude but 'skit' comes to mind

H
Hoch is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:14 am.




SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.