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Old Nov 25, 12, 2:45 am   #1
 
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How to find seat availability?

Sorry for this redundant question, but...

Several years ago I paid for a month's access to search out seat availability on aircraft flights. After several computer changes and ... I cannot remember the name, nor URL, of that paid-for service.

Occasionally I read mention of it in FT, so it must be relatively common knowledge.

Info please. As my flights near, I will soon start asking for upgrade possibilities using my Avios...

TIA.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 2:50 am   #2
 
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Try expertflyer.com for actual seating availability and awardnexus.com for upgrade availability.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 2:50 am   #3
 
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Is it Expert Flyer? http://www.expertflyer.com/
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Old Nov 25, 12, 3:37 am   #4
 
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Yes, thanks. It is expertflyer.
Paying $5 for a month will not only save time, but provide info about trying to upgrade Wt+ to CW.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 3:54 am   #5
 
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Yes, thanks. It is expertflyer.
Paying $5 for a month will not only save time, but provide info about trying to upgrade Wt+ to CW.
It won't. Expertflyer doesn't show BA award inventory.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:23 am   #6
 
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Yes, thanks for confirming my suspicions. In any case open CW seats provides incentive to call BA and ask to use Avios miles to upgrade from WT+

No harm in trying if empty seats are available as in not sold -is there?
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Old Nov 25, 12, 10:54 am   #7
 
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It won't. Expertflyer doesn't show BA award inventory.
KVS Tool does (www.kvstool.com).
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Old Nov 25, 12, 12:10 pm   #8
 
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Yes, thanks for confirming my suspicions. In any case open CW seats provides incentive to call BA and ask to use Avios miles to upgrade from WT+
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Try expertflyer.com for actual seating availability and awardnexus.com for upgrade availability.
Correct, since the BA award/upgrade inventory is freely available, there are free tools that will get you that information. Awardnexus.com as well as http://www.awardtravelr.com
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Old Nov 25, 12, 12:31 pm   #9
 
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No harm in trying if empty seats are available as in not sold -is there?
I don't know if there's any correlation between seat availability and upgrade availability. However, as other people have pointed out, kvstool can scrape BA's web site, as can awardnexus and awardtravelr, and I have some perl scripts to do the same too.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 3:06 pm   #10
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It won't. Expertflyer doesn't show BA award inventory.
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KVS Tool does (www.kvstool.com).
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Old Nov 25, 12, 6:22 pm   #11
 
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Awardtravlr.com doesn't work

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Correct, since the BA award/upgrade inventory is freely available, there are free tools that will get you that information. Awardnexus.com as well as http://www.awardtravelr.com
Awardnexus works but they are only free for a limited number of searches which get used up quite fast.

I just tried awardtravelr.com and it is totally useless. I tried a range of searches from North America (various airports) to LHR on 07-10-2013 where BA.com shows availability and awardtravelr shows none.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 6:27 pm   #12
 
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Awardnexus works but they are only free for a limited number of searches which get used up quite fast.

I just tried awardtravelr.com and it is totally useless. I tried a range of searches from North America (various airports) to LHR on 07-10-2013 where BA.com shows availability and awardtravelr shows none.
Just to clarify..

When you say 'BA.com shows availability', do you mean you tried a dummy booking on BA.com or that you used the BA reward availability checking tool? The latter was known to be a little flaky. If you used the former then I'd agree with your conclusions. If you used the latter it may be BA.com's reward checker that's not right and not awardtravelr.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:42 pm   #13
 
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Just to clarify..

When you say 'BA.com shows availability', do you mean you tried a dummy booking on BA.com or that you used the BA reward availability checking tool? The latter was known to be a little flaky. If you used the former then I'd agree with your conclusions. If you used the latter it may be BA.com's reward checker that's not right and not awardtravelr.
I tried to make an actual booking on ba.com.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:44 pm   #14
 
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According to the awardtravlr thread in travel tools, there is a currently a problem with that site for oneworld.
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Old Nov 26, 12, 2:19 am   #15
 
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Awardnexus works but they are only free for a limited number of searches which get used up quite fast.

I just tried awardtravelr.com and it is totally useless. I tried a range of searches from North America (various airports) to LHR on 07-10-2013 where BA.com shows availability and awardtravelr shows none.
Hey, just a reminder that as a community member, you are entitled to a 100 points refill every 90 days. I think you account is eligible for a free 100 points refill now, so make sure you take advantage of it.

Remember Award Nexus is supported by members like you. Many free members redeem their awards without ever paying, but if you approach the free limit, consider the premium membership. You will get more points for your searches, and you will be supporting the continual improvement of Award Nexus.
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