A lady is seated in 2D. On comes a small man and a female together. The female takes her seat in 1F. The man opens the hat rack above 1D. BOOM!
There is already a bag where he wants to place his. "This is utterly ridiculous" he grunts. He appears to look at the luggage tag then approaches the purser and tells her he cant get his bag in because there is a crew bag above his seat.
The purser stands firm and she tells him the luggage space above his head is NOT reserved solely for his personal use. "But, its a crew bag" he again bleats.
The purser assures him the bag does not belong to one of her crew. The, by now, fuming little man turns around and attempts to remove the bag from the overhead above seat 1D. As he pulls it out, the lady in 2D suddenly leaps from her chair and tells him in no uncertain terms, "Thats my bag, kindly leave it where it is" and sits back down again.
The astonished man's face all of a sudden turns white from red, offers no apology whatsoever and is forced to put his luggage on the other side of the aisle between rows 2 & 3.
A quite loathesome individual however, very nice to see both the purser and the crew member stand up to such a horrible bully.
Last edited by Prospero; Nov 24, 12 at 5:23 am..
Reason: remove national references
Location: In theory near BHD, but usually a hotel in another country
Programs: Gold with BA/A3/TK, Elite EI, EK Silver and other random stuff, but no Moroccan Gold
Posts: 2,701
Did there appear to be any reason why the lady in 2D did not put her bag above row 2, thus leaving it available to the row 1 pax?
There have been regular threads here about people putting their bags in at a forward row eg 2 or 3 and moving back to row 26 etc., which excites some adverse comment. Trying to go backwards to collect luggage after the seatbelt signs go off is a well known problem. Albeit one row is not the most difficult task.
Since row 1 always has to put their luggage and handbags overhead I do have some sympathy - although the attitude to crew and fellow pax was poor.
__________________
Always willing to guest you into a lounge - see ba97.com
Did there appear to be any reason why the lady in 2D did not put her bag above row 2, thus leaving it available to the row 1 pax?
It was full above 2D as there was a guy seated in 2F who had luggage. The girl put her wheelie bag in the "smallish" single overhead above row 1.
Its pretty clear he was just pissed off because it was a crew members bag (albeit not an operating crew members bag). I cant imagine for a minute he'd have got his knickers in a twist if he hadn't clocked the crew bag tag!
Programs: BA Gold, LH Sen, MUCCI, Junior Jet Club.
Posts: 6,525
I actually have some sympathy too - row 1 has no-where else to put their luggage than above. The fact that the pax in 2D put her bag above row 1 rather than above row 2, or even underneath 1E, is poor behaviour on her part.
Overhead luggage space is one of the only downsides of row 1 in my view. Especially if you're travelling with a just-fits rollaboard.
__________________ British Airways Club World: lie back and think of England in the original business class flat bed.
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, PS, TK Elite, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,189
Quote:
Originally Posted by antichef
Did there appear to be any reason why the lady in 2D did not put her bag above row 2, thus leaving it available to the row 1 pax?
There have been regular threads here about people putting their bags in at a forward row eg 2 or 3 and moving back to row 26 etc., which excites some adverse comment. Trying to go backwards to collect luggage after the seatbelt signs go off is a well known problem. Albeit one row is not the most difficult task.
Since row 1 always has to put their luggage and handbags overhead I do have some sympathy - although the attitude to crew and fellow pax was poor.
I share your view. The lady did not have to put her bag above somebody else's seat... Not sure that the guy handled the situation perfectly but I can see why he was upset.
I actually have some sympathy too - row 1 has no-where else to put their luggage than above. The fact that the pax in 2D put her bag above row 1 rather than above row 2, or even underneath 1E, is poor behaviour on her part.
Overhead luggage space is one of the only downsides of row 1 in my view. Especially if you're travelling with a just-fits rollaboard.
Exactly.
Row 1 overhead bin should be reserved for row 1 passengers. They have no seat front space to put their bag.
The lady from row 2 is the one should be blamed with poor hehavour.
Firstly, she should not put her bag in the space belongs to others, especially before row 1 passenger arrive.
Secondly, she should identified herself before the exchange between the man and crew heated.
Thirdly, she should not be so rude to ask the man to not to touch her bag. She should have offered to remove her bag to make everyone happy.
Lastly, she had no right to be so reluctantly and rude.
The crew was wrong in some sense.
Firstly, the crew should not keep arguing it was not a crew bag.
When they said it is not a crew bag they should offer to move that bag and look for the ownder of the bag, in case it is a bag left by economy class passengers.
Lastly, they should offer suggestions to solve the problem in a way not upset anyone. Clearly, the crew handled the situation badly.
__________________ oneworld: You need HU and HU needs you! Sign up HU for China market please!
... Row 1 overhead bin should be reserved for row 1 passengers. They have no seat front space to put their bag.
The lady from row 2 is the one should be blamed with poor hehavour.
Firstly, she should not put her bag in the space belongs to others, especially before row 1 passenger arrive.
Secondly, she should identified herself before the exchange between the man and crew heated.
Thirdly, she should not be so rude to ask the man to not to touch her bag. She should have offered to remove her bag to make everyone happy.
Lastly, she had no right to be so reluctantly and rude.
The crew was wrong in some sense.
Firstly, the crew should not keep arguing it was not a crew bag.
When they said it is not a crew bag they should offer to move that bag and look for the ownder of the bag, in case it is a bag left by economy class passengers.
Lastly, they should offer suggestions to solve the problem in a way not upset anyone. Clearly, the crew handled the situation badly.
I agree with your first line but the rest, are you being serious?!
I actually have some sympathy too - row 1 has no-where else to put their luggage than above. The fact that the pax in 2D put her bag above row 1 rather than above row 2, or even underneath 1E, is poor behaviour on her part.
Overhead luggage space is one of the only downsides of row 1 in my view. Especially if you're travelling with a just-fits rollaboard.
She had some more stuff under the seat in front. SOme sort of soft black bag. I'm sure could she have put her bag under 1E she would have. I actually dont see many people who have the standard 56cm wheelie put it under the seat in front.
Perhaps the diminutive [passenger] should have boarded earlier was he able to. The fact that he put his gear only one row back on the other side suggests he was simply being an arse about the situation by irritating the cabin crew in the first place because he had seen a crew bag tag.
Last edited by Prospero; Nov 24, 12 at 5:56 am..
Reason: Remove national reference (AGAIN)
Sorry, I think that overhead bin space is shared space (for each cabin). It's not on for euro traveller passengers to put their bags in to the club europe bins. However within each cabin it's first come, first served.
Grown adults need to behave like adults and learn to share. If there's a bag where you would like t put yours, then it's not the end of the world to put yours a couple of rows behind. Even when disembarking, you'll perhaps have a bit of a faff and it'll take you 30 seconds longer to get off - even for the tightest connection, that's really not the end of the world.
Row 1 overhead bin should be reserved for row 1 passengers. They have no seat front space to put their bag.
Perhaps you feel it should be, but it isn't. People have to learn to share with each other. At the end of the day, I suspect it's very unlikely that cabin crew will have to check a club europe passenger's carry on. They'll make every effort to stow it somewhere, either in the cupboard or somewhere else.
Location: In theory near BHD, but usually a hotel in another country
Programs: Gold with BA/A3/TK, Elite EI, EK Silver and other random stuff, but no Moroccan Gold
Posts: 2,701
Row 1 does tend to be where some crew put their bags, and it does annoy some who sit in Row 1. How they handle it is the issue here.
Would that crew put their luggage at the back rather than the front forms part of that ideal world than does not exist in commercial travel. I have no experience of private jets, but suspect that is the only solution. If you have a lot of luggage than you take your 737 rather than your Gulfstream
__________________
Always willing to guest you into a lounge - see ba97.com
I'm on the side of the lady passenger on this, I'm afraid.
a) No doubt she would have placed her bag in the locker above her seat had she been able.
b) I don't care who you think you are, you don't take it upon yourself to interfere with another passenger's belongings in order to convenience yourself.
