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Old Nov 12, 12, 3:24 pm   #1
 
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Air travel etiquette

Was reading this earlier

http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/no...ced-law-066327

One thing which made me pay a bit extra for my seat now is because of point 1 and 2. I am a regular WTP user. Can't quite afford CW yet (unless using avios)! Anyway, the last time and probably last time ever I used economy, I had some guy with some medical problem sitting beside me. OK fair enough he was hogging the arm rest. Then when he fell asleep, his hand kept falling beside my lap. I was quite annoyed but being polite, I didn't do anything. Not sure what I could have done given the guy I think had some sort of medical problem (didn't seem to breath right).

Then you get these guys who recline the chair fully. Not sure how many of you guys here still slum around in economy but I guess when the chair is fully reclined in a LHR to HKG 10+ hour flight, it can be very intense Esp. when the 7" mini ipad screen is about 5 inches away from my face

Finally, how about if you get a BIG passenger sitting beside you in economy? I mean the seats are small as it is. But if they hog the armrest and their feet is so big that they actually need to use some of your 'legroom' what can be done? I mean without being rude

Would be interesting to hear some feedback.

I guess the chances of the above happening becomes less as you move into WTP and non existent in CW? What can annoy CW passengers which other commuters do ?
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Old Nov 12, 12, 3:53 pm   #2
 
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1 & 2 yes, 2 really annoys me as a Y traveller. Number 7, god no. I love the Americans but their taste in shoes is terrible with the height of horrible footwear being those slip one with little leather tassels, you know, these things.



Oh and I don't have issue with the seat recline thing, it's hard enough getting comfortable in Y as is and if everyone reclines then it isn't a problem. Obviously the exception is during food service but if all other times fine. If I recline and the person behind is too stupid to press his own recline button then that's his issue.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 4:04 pm   #3
 
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Lol

.Be courteous to others when reclining in your seat. If you are sitting in small seats, just tap your neighbors leg if they're sitting behind you and you want to recline. Otherwise you might hear a loud "crunch!" Which, would be a bad thing because it was probably your neighbor's laptop, and they're not likely to be happy about you breaking it.


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Old Nov 12, 12, 4:05 pm   #4
 
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No warrenties when seating in y
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Old Nov 12, 12, 4:15 pm   #5
 
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If it is cramped and I am working, I will actually say to the person in front of me "Excuse me, I have a request - i have my laptop out, so if you would like to recline, please let me know first and I will move it. I have no issues if you wish to recline though."

Oh, and I bought an 11 inch laptop for this reason.
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Old Nov 12, 12, 4:27 pm   #6
 
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How would you deal with the armchair hoggers ?
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Old Nov 13, 12, 4:57 am   #7
 
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How would you deal with the armchair hoggers ?
I'm an armrest hogger myself. If another pax has got it first, I wait for them to shift (they always do eventually) then make my move.

But the art is in the give and take. Either taking turns with the armrest or, if it's clear the other person is going to hog the armrest, trade it for some other asset, e.g. deflect both the air vents towards you or away from you, depending on how much air you need. Of course it all has to be done without discussion.

If their arm keeps flopping on to your lap, gently lift it back without saying anything. This is the correct response, whether they are asleep, ill, dead, inconsiderate or having a grope.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 5:20 am   #8
 
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If it is cramped and I am working, I will actually say to the person in front of me "Excuse me, I have a request - i have my laptop out, so if you would like to recline, please let me know first and I will move it. I have no issues if you wish to recline though."
My trick is (assuming I'm in an aisle seat) is head to the loo before I want to recline (normally when they dim the lights) and see if someone behind is a) awake, b) using a laptop or something I could break or c) crushed up against the back of my seat.
Depending on the outcome of this little surveillance mission I might ask if it's okay (if they're awake and working etc) or just do it (they're asleep).

I don't really recline all the way in Y though, not much point to be honest, I'm not going to be that comfortable either way.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 6:48 am   #9
 
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If their arm keeps flopping on to your lap, gently lift it back without saying anything. This is the correct response, whether they are asleep, ill, dead, inconsiderate or having a grope.

I am black belt at arm flopping defense: empty pack of crips on the landing area, for some reason it performs something that makes the arm to return to their master.

If this does not work, introduce the offender's finger in a glass of water

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Old Nov 13, 12, 7:09 am   #10
 
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Brill thread !!

Armrest hogging is normally done by MrD (always Y on L/H at present) - I don't really mind being of small frame - however he seems to have the knack of being able to turn my screen off whilst hogging the armrest, he gets a sharp dig for that one!

I'm hoping our next TATL will have the 77W as promised - then it wont be a problem.

Also always try to bag the very last row of seats then reclining fully isn't an issue (Unless you're on AA metal then you can't !)

Surprised there wasn't a tip about snoring........perhaps holding your neighbours nose will stop them, bit tricky to explain yourself if they wake when you're doing it though !

Also not to 'ape' your way down the aisles from one headrest to another - why do people do that ?
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Old Nov 13, 12, 7:28 am   #11
 
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I had the pleasure of a very attractive chappy in the seat next to me on the 11 hour trip to JNB last Monday. He was handsome, charming and funny. He was also very broad-shouldered and had biceps bigger than some girls' waists. I couldn't even get close to the armrest, even when he wasn't using it!

Still, I'm not complaining. Overall he was a good deal.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 7:44 am   #12
 
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I had the pleasure of a very attractive chappy in the seat next to me on the 11 hour trip to JNB last Monday. He was handsome, charming and funny. He was also very broad-shouldered and had biceps bigger than some girls' waists. I couldn't even get close to the armrest, even when he wasn't using it!

Still, I'm not complaining. Overall he was a good deal.
Obviously not MrD !!!
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Old Nov 13, 12, 8:38 am   #13
 
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There is no such thing as "Air Travel Etiquette" (sadly)

Seems to be everything goes nowadays.
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:12 am   #14
 
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Obviously not MrD !!!
Nope. And sadly (she whispers) not Mr WotAs either!
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Old Nov 13, 12, 10:33 am   #15
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Ahhh . Etiquette. A word that means so much to different people in different ways.
Etiquette =
  • Drinking 2 bottles of LPGC in the CCR without chucking.
  • Not sleeping on the sofas in GF.
  • Restraining oneself to 2 Bacon Rolls in Galleries.
  • Avoiding the temptation to slide into the Priority Boarding line when un-entitled.
  • Not waving a Bronze card around, and expecting something to happen.
  • Not putting wicker donkeys in the overhead bins.
  • Not putting your wordly goods in overhead bins.
  • Not putting children in overhead bins.
  • Keeping your feet/shoes off the furniture/cabin fitments.
  • Switching off PEDs in the aircraft, and not yakking on the phone in the Lounge.
  • Lifting the Seat [Gentlemen only, of course].
  • Not making inappropriate suggestions to CC [both genders and all persuasions].
  • Applauding the landing.
  • And finally - Allowing older passengers to go before you
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