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Old Nov 10, 12, 6:52 am   #1
 
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QF/BA code shares

While there have been a couple threads (elsewhere mostly) about QF no longer code sharing on BA flights LHR-European destinations (except where Emirates doesn't fly) next year, I haven't seen any indications on what BA code shares on QF flights will continue to exist.

Presently BA has the right to issue tickets HKG/BKK/SIN-Australia on (QF) code share flights without the LHR legs. Will that right continue after the BA/QF JSA ends? Actually more interested in HKG/SIN-PER but a generic answer is also useful.

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Old Nov 10, 12, 6:56 am   #2
 
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QF/BA code shares

Didn't realise that QF weren't going to codeshare on most BA services ex LHR ?

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Old Nov 10, 12, 9:18 am   #3
 
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QF are eliminating nearly every codeshare except for ones such as BSL and BRU that EK don't serve, they will also add ZAG and LBA.

If BA gets an agreement with an airline like MH, CX or QR then they can codeshare with them to major Aussie cities and only codeshare to smaller cities like Darwin.

BA should kick QF out of oneworld, they have caused so much trouble with CX and now with BA.
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BA should kick QF out of oneworld, they have caused so much trouble with CX and now with BA.
Can BA do this, or do they have to get agreement with other OW members first? ( including QF?).
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Old Nov 10, 12, 9:58 am   #5
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BA should kick QF out of oneworld, they have caused so much trouble with CX and now with BA.
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Can BA do this, or do they have to get agreement with other OW members first? ( including QF?).
Perhaps better not to speculate on this sort of stuff, considering how CX seems to be a rather reluctant member of OW (a bit like OW's equivalent of SQ for *A). Can you imagine a OW with neither CX nor QF?
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Old Nov 10, 12, 4:03 pm   #6
 
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BA should kick QF out of oneworld, they have caused so much trouble with CX and now with BA.
The deal with Emirates is pretty much the last chance to save what is left of Qantas International. If it fails, QF will cease to exist and JetStar will take over.

On the domestic side, Virgin Australia (who now also own Tiger) are becoming a more dominant player in the market. (Which is where QF make their money).

Give it 5 years and QF may not need to be kicked out; they'll just fade away!
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Old Nov 10, 12, 4:14 pm   #7
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The deal with Emirates is pretty much the last chance to save what is left of Qantas International. If it fails, QF will cease to exist and JetStar will take over.

On the domestic side, Virgin Australia (who now also own Tiger) are becoming a more dominant player in the market. (Which is where QF make their money).

Give it 5 years and QF may not need to be kicked out; they'll just fade away!
I thought I saw something on TV recently that even the domestic market is not a shoe-in for QF as it used to be. My company fly around 400 people a month domestically in Australia and they've just switched to Virgin Australia where they can.
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Old Nov 10, 12, 4:17 pm   #8
 
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QF are eliminating nearly every codeshare except for ones such as BSL and BRU that EK don't serve, they will also add ZAG and LBA.
What is the authoritative source of that statement ?

As for CX, they are going to code share with Air NZ (a member of the dark side alliance). But there is nothing unusual with code shares with airlines in opposing alliances
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Old Nov 10, 12, 10:25 pm   #9
 
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What is the authoritative source of that statement ?

As for CX, they are going to code share with Air NZ (a member of the dark side alliance). But there is nothing unusual with code shares with airlines in opposing alliances
This reference to Australian Business Traveler appeared on airliners.net . There is a statement in the airliners thread that BA will continue to codeshare on QF flights exSIN/HKG but that is not quite the same as being able to sell BA codes on flights originating in those cities to Australia.

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Old Nov 10, 12, 10:44 pm   #10
 
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This reference to Australian Business Traveler appeared on airliners.net .
Indeed
Personally I do not consider either an authoritative source, especially ausbt
Selling flights I would think is country to country agreements
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Qantas have posted a picture of their latest Airbus to their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

If nothing else, it suggests a commitment to Oneworld. (Unless members are obliged to have a certain number of planes with that livery). [Referring to the bottom picture].
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