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Old May 18, 12, 1:37 pm   #1
 
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BA Club World vs Virgin Atlantic Upper Class - please compare for me

I have been using Delta airlines for my international travel because I was based out of the US and had a longtime relationship with DL. I am no longer living in the US and although I travel there, my trips originate now in LCA (Cyprus). DL's flight schedules and cost have now become inconvenient and undesirable and so I am looking at BA and Virgin Atlantic for my flights from LCA to JFK (via LHR).

I was happy to see that both BA and VS offer lie-flat seats on their LHR-JFK flights. Neither airline is perfect for schedule (though much better than DL), and BA's price is slightly better than VS.

Could anyone compare the VS upperclass product to the BA Club World product? Which do you prefer and why?

Thanks in advance.
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Old May 18, 12, 1:54 pm   #2
 
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Pro VS:
- You're a 'First Class' customer (since there is no First, Upper Class is as good as it gets)
- You're quicker off the plane, being in Front of it.
- The Lounge at LHR is much nicer than BA's Galleries (Club or First)
- VS is simply 'cooler' and more modern, Bar on Board, top Service etc.

Con VS:
They don't fly to LCA (or do they? All VS flights I've seen were Codeshares operated by Cyprus Airways)

Pro BA:
- The Alliance / Network (with Oneworld, AA,CX,QF,AB) offers considerably more destinations and hence easier ability to achieve and use Status, as well as to earn and redeem miles (assuming you are okay with the fact that there is no such thing as a "free" flight.
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Old May 18, 12, 1:54 pm   #3
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Both have fully flat beds. Virgin's is slightly larger but you have to stand up to put it in bed mode. BA's on the other hand reclines.

Virgin's seats all have direct aisle access but none have a window view. BA's window seats have up to four windows but you have to step over somebody else's legs or, if seated in the aisle seat, possibly have somebody stepping over your legs.

Virgin's seats face sideways. BA's face either backwards or forwards.

Both have in-seat power and in-flight entertainment. Virgin has AVOD on every flight (I believe) but BA has AVOD on 100% of 747s and 767s and <100% of 777s.

Both have a variable quality of catering and service.
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Old May 18, 12, 1:54 pm   #4
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I can't do links on the iPad, but we had a thread on this running recently.

If you use the Forum Search using "BA vs VS" you'll find it.

Oh, and BA probably offers more frequent services
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VS think they are simply 'cooler' and more modern
Amended slightly...
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Old May 18, 12, 2:00 pm   #6
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Both have fully flat beds. Virgin's is slightly larger but you have to stand up to put it in bed mode. BA's on the other hand reclines.

Virgin's seats all have direct aisle access but none have a window view. BA's window seats have up to four windows but you have to step over somebody else's legs or, if seated in the aisle seat, possibly have somebody stepping over your legs.

Virgin's seats face sideways. BA's face either backwards or forwards.

Both have in-seat power and in-flight entertainment. Virgin has AVOD on every flight (I believe) but BA has AVOD on 100% of 747s and 767s and <100% of 777s.

Both have a variable quality of catering and service.
That's not true. At least two thirds of them do. You just have to turn your head/body.

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Old May 18, 12, 2:08 pm   #7
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That's not true. At least two thirds of them do. You just have to turn your head/body.
But if you turn your head/body in a CW aisle seat to look through the dividing screen you have a window view too!

Could you sit comfortably for an hour in a VS seat looking out of the window? I know you can on BA!
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VS seat is softer in bed mode. I find this a significant advantage as I sleep on my side.

The VS bar can be troublesome for sleep. Ensure you are away from it.

If you can get a window seat BA are more private. But you are likely to have to step over someone's feet to go to the loo.

All IMHO of course.
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In summary, the Virign product, I think, is better (though be careful on seat selection, being near the bar is a problem if you want to sleep). I find the bed more comfortable and the food beats BA IMHO. Cabin service is equally variable on both. Ground service at LHR is better on Virgin.

Where BA beat Virgin is route network, convience and FF scheme. That's it really.

(runs for cover...)
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....oh and the VS LHR clubhouse and wing is a pretty good set up compared to BA.
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The VS bar can be troublesome for sleep. Ensure you are away from it.

All IMHO of course.
Not sure you're supposed to sleep at the bar!
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But if you turn your head/body in a CW aisle seat to look through the dividing screen you have a window view too!

Could you sit comfortably for an hour in a VS seat looking out of the window? I know you can on BA!
Yes, I've done it when flying back over Pakistan during the floods two years ago.
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Old May 18, 12, 2:31 pm   #13
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But if you turn your head/body in a CW aisle seat to look through the dividing screen you have a window view too!

Could you sit comfortably for an hour in a VS seat looking out of the window? I know you can on BA!
In seat mode, probably not, but you can in bed mode.
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Old May 18, 12, 2:40 pm   #14
 
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Con VS:
They don't fly to LCA (or do they? All VS flights I've seen were Codeshares operated by Cyprus Airways)
It seems Cyprus Airways has a much better seat than BA Club Europe.
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Neither airline is perfect for schedule (though much better than DL), and BA's price is slightly better than VS.
I'm not sure you can say this given that JFK has a higher frequency of slots than any other International airport in the world
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