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Old Feb 12, 11, 6:55 pm   #1
 
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CW or F on a BA Chase Card Companion Certificate

What would you do?

I opened the BA Chase card with the 100k points for me and my wife last year. Last year I spent over the 30k and recieved the Companion Certificate for MFR. How it works is I log in to my BA account and it shows I have a certificate to use. I use our house hold points and my companion gets a free flight (yes I know I have to pay taxes.)

So my delima is fly in F or CW. 100k or 150k points for a flight from PHL to LHR or beyond to a certain point in Europe.

I just ran it through on the website and flying from PHL to MUN was going to be 150k points for 2 of us and 1500 dollars but this is flying in F and CE.
Total cost would normally be 22k dollars.


I look at it this way. My wife is racking up about 120k miles a year or more flying in CW for business to LHR and BOM from PHL. She can't upgrade using MFU because its booked through a travel agency. So why not fly in F this time. I flew in F last year one way and it was so much nicer than CW. Once you fly in F its tought sitting back further.

Any suggestion on where to go to and what class will be concidered.
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Old Feb 12, 11, 7:14 pm   #2
 
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I had to make the same decision for my trip from LAX to ATH this coming October.

Here is how I analyzed it:

BAEC miles to me are worth about two cents (U.S.) per mile. Therefore, the additional 50,000 miles for the two of us to fly F instead of CW (using a 2-for-1 voucher) "costs" $1,000. This translates into $250 per person per TATL flight to fly F instead of CW. The flight from LHR to ATH would be in CE either way so I ignored it in my analysis.

Personally, for me this is worth it but I don't think I would spend much more than that to fly F instead of CW. I have flown both CW and (old) F in the past two years. The main difference to me is that the sevice in F is more personable, the F cabin is quieter, and the food and especially the wine in F are far superior to CW. In 2009, they were serving very good and reasonably aged Bordeaux ($100 per bottle wine) in F. I don't know if this is still the case. For my 2010 flight in CW, the wine was unremarkable at best. I didn't find that much difference in the seating, and the IFE in CW is better than the IFE in (old) F.

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Old Feb 12, 11, 7:22 pm   #3
 
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I should add that we live in San Diego but are driving to LAX (about two hours) in order to fly F as the new SAN-LHR service does not have F.

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Old Feb 12, 11, 7:49 pm   #4
 
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I agree with you on the wine choices and service in F. I had to book last second and F was the only point seats available so i flew F going over and CW coming back last september. The F lounges also make a difference with any long layover.

I don't think its usual but I asked for a single malt and the guy came back and said he just got a bottle of glenlevet 21.

How long is that TransAtlantic flight from LA?
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Old Feb 12, 11, 7:56 pm   #5
 
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Depending on the flight why not try first fir the daytime flight and club fir the night flight ??

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Old Feb 12, 11, 8:05 pm   #6
 
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They only let you choose one class for the flights. When I have been looking I could get Club for the day flying back and thats the one I really would like to be in First for.
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Old Feb 12, 11, 8:10 pm   #7
 
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They only let you choose one class for the flights. When I have been looking I could get Club for the day flying back and thats the one I really would like to be in First for.
If you can find availability to mix classes you can call BA and they will ticket a mix of CW and F with the savings in miles that you would expect

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Old Feb 12, 11, 8:20 pm   #8
 
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Smile 1st 1st 1st

First on BA is very nice. You must try it at least once so you can compare it.
I have flown BA 1st, however, I've never flown CW, so this Sept the Mrs and I will be flying LAX-LHR-MAD in CW so we can see how the Business end of the cabin feels. We will be upstairs however.
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Old Feb 12, 11, 8:33 pm   #9
 
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Go big or go home! I say splurge for F. Hopefully you'll get new F, which is fantastic. I flew it last summer and loved every minute- here's a link to my trip report if you need any inspiration.
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Old Feb 12, 11, 8:48 pm   #10
 
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To thepointsguy Enjoyed your review. I also got to fly in the new first in September. My wife however always flys Club and gets us all the points so I think it will be a nice upgrade for her.


I think First will be my choice. My next thing to figure out is how far and where in Europe I can go without spending more points. I guess Zone 1 is the 150k so i need to find a listing of zone 1

Example PHL to LHR 150k
PHL to MUNICH 150k
Other places are 180k

Just need to find the best value

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Old Feb 13, 11, 1:35 am   #11
 
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I agree with you on the wine choices and service in F. I had to book last second and F was the only point seats available so i flew F going over and CW coming back last september. The F lounges also make a difference with any long layover.

I don't think its usual but I asked for a single malt and the guy came back and said he just got a bottle of glenlevet 21.

How long is that TransAtlantic flight from LA?
Ten hours from LAX to LHR and 11 hours from LHR to LAX.
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Old Feb 13, 11, 1:50 am   #12
 
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The 25 thousand miles each is more than worth it

F every time ESP on such a long flight, having the CCR available when you transfer is a big plus too
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Old Feb 13, 11, 6:40 am   #13
 
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Capt or anyone else

So its all set. I am flying PHL-LHR in First and then continuing to LHR-MUC in CE because there is no first. Because its Reward travel I am doing a stay over in London actually flying up to Manchester and then back and continuing my journey.

My new question is when I go to continue the journey can I still use the first class lounge?
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Old Feb 13, 11, 7:30 am   #14
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Just go in F. LHR<>LAX are nice long flights so you will have a great opportunity to maximise the experience.
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