Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Sep 1, 2010, 10:04 am
#61
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BOD and LUX out of Gatwick are £60 each way pre-booked.
Sep 2, 2010, 9:10 am
#62
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Outbound: £1194.64 per adult to upgrade to World Traveller Plus on this flight
Return: £1007.54 per adult to upgrade to World Traveller Plus on this flight
Save £ 90.00 by upgrading both flights for a total cost of £ 2112.18
This is LHR-EZE and back.
Last edited by polochick; Sep 4, 2010 at 2:13 pm Reason: route clarification
Sep 4, 2010, 7:28 am
#63
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Sep 4, 2010, 8:22 am
#64
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Today, I upgraded my Mother's forthcoming YYZ-LHR flight from Y (H class) to WTP for £125, due to the special proactive upgrade offer in MMB. It now shows as P booking class.
Sep 4, 2010, 1:46 pm
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I was just offered £100 for upgrade to CE LHR-ZRH.
Given that this presumably includes the enhanced APD, I'm tempted. (Can't remember if we get enhanced TPs and miles, but I'll check back.)
FWIW, our last few ZRH flights in A319s still had old-style 2+3 seats. The one I've just booked is an A320.
Given that this presumably includes the enhanced APD, I'm tempted. (Can't remember if we get enhanced TPs and miles, but I'll check back.)
FWIW, our last few ZRH flights in A319s still had old-style 2+3 seats. The one I've just booked is an A320.
Sep 4, 2010, 1:48 pm
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Yes you will get extra tp and miles for this route.
Cheers
Cheers
Sep 7, 2010, 4:13 am
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With regards to 'at airport upgrades' I have a few questions...
I have not noticed the option to upgrade at the airport... do you have to request availability at check in? Are upgrades usually available if space permits or is it not as straight forward as that?
If you have an MFU'd CW seat netting you 75 TP's and you got a paid upgrade to F for £399, would that mean you would get 180 TP's even though it was an MFU? Thats assuming you can buy an upgrade for an MFU ticket?
I have not noticed the option to upgrade at the airport... do you have to request availability at check in? Are upgrades usually available if space permits or is it not as straight forward as that?
If you have an MFU'd CW seat netting you 75 TP's and you got a paid upgrade to F for £399, would that mean you would get 180 TP's even though it was an MFU? Thats assuming you can buy an upgrade for an MFU ticket?
Sep 9, 2010, 6:56 am
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Are these "cash upgrades" associated with specific fare inventory bucket? (e.g "T", "E", or "W")?
So, for example, if I was to look on expertflyer.com and saw T2 would know that a cash upgrade is possible.
So, for example, if I was to look on expertflyer.com and saw T2 would know that a cash upgrade is possible.
Sep 9, 2010, 7:39 am
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I'm not sure it is that straight forward. The last time I upgraded a Y to WTP ticket it went from an 'M' fare into the 'P' bucket. Conversely I recently upgraded a ET ticket which turned from a 'V' fare to an 'I' fare.
Last edited by BA_Blade; Sep 9, 2010 at 7:40 am Reason: typo
Sep 10, 2010, 12:36 pm
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LHR -> EWR for a flight in December
Y -> WTP for £115 one way - special offer in MMB.
Y -> WTP for £115 one way - special offer in MMB.
Sep 13, 2010, 5:07 am
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LHR-JFK September
WT -> WTP £115
This is £60 fare difference and £55 'Tax/Fee/Charge' and seems better value than our LHR-ZRH offer of £100 for ET -> CE.
It also means that I will have travelled in all 5 BA classes at last - or 7 if CW and CE and WT and ET are regarded as separate classes. And yes, former R is part of that.
WT -> WTP £115
This is £60 fare difference and £55 'Tax/Fee/Charge' and seems better value than our LHR-ZRH offer of £100 for ET -> CE.
It also means that I will have travelled in all 5 BA classes at last - or 7 if CW and CE and WT and ET are regarded as separate classes. And yes, former R is part of that.
Sep 13, 2010, 5:52 am
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LHR-DME and DME-LHR, ET to CE, costs £200 each way.
Sep 13, 2010, 6:30 am
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Can you do pro-active upgrades on the BA website if you have a multi-city itinerary?
My LHR-ORD-DTW WT+ booking is teasing me with (obviously wrong) £100 upgrades to CW. If you try to purchase them, then the website throws up a "you can't upgrade this flight online error".
I can understand why the website might not be able to handle this, but it shouldn't really show silly prices, should it?
My LHR-ORD-DTW WT+ booking is teasing me with (obviously wrong) £100 upgrades to CW. If you try to purchase them, then the website throws up a "you can't upgrade this flight online error".
I can understand why the website might not be able to handle this, but it shouldn't really show silly prices, should it?
Sep 13, 2010, 10:04 am
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My next Euro flight is to AGP and that is showing as £150 each way from ET to CW. As a Silver I already get lounge access so it's not good value at all (and I'm not desperate for the extra TPs yet)
Sep 13, 2010, 10:20 am
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I agree. The transatlantic upgrade offers are much better value than the European ones. I did the £115 upgrade to BOS a few weeks ago and was then given an OpUp to upper desk CW. I doubt that would have happened if I had still been in Y so from WT to UDCW for £115 was a great bargain!
My next Euro flight is to AGP and that is showing as £150 each way from ET to CW. As a Silver I already get lounge access so it's not good value at all (and I'm not desperate for the extra TPs yet)
My next Euro flight is to AGP and that is showing as £150 each way from ET to CW. As a Silver I already get lounge access so it's not good value at all (and I'm not desperate for the extra TPs yet)
Last edited by britbronco22; Sep 13, 2010 at 10:21 am Reason: to mention fasttrack