BBC: Brazil's airports won't be ready
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Getting a little late to start opening up the process for bids, with work to start later, but in some cases it might work. And at least the government admitting the problem is a first step (though airport overcrowding has been an issue for a while). The president is already facing a big budget deficit, so it won't be easy to come up with extra funds, but I imagine few will vote against it (they'll have to cut other things). I can't imagine any new airports being built in 3 years, but could be wrong. The report mentions the idea of using alternative airports. Not sure in how many places there are feasible alternatives to the main existing airports (more difficult for international flights, since extra facilities are needed).
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They have been building a new airport in VIX for the past 4 or 5 years. Start and stop due to fraud uncovered. Now supposed to be ready in 2013. Don't know of any events scheduled to take place in VIX connected to either the World Cup or Olympics, but might be an alternative. Just don't know if the new terminal will have facilities for Passport Control and Customs. They currently do get cargo flights nonstop from Miami with 767s, and I imagine someone has to inspect the crew, not to mention the crew on ships since it is a shipping port. So there are some inspection resources there that could be augmented.
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Brazil to Sell Airports in Sao Paulo, Brasilia to Host World Cup, Olympics
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It seems unlikely thatanything will be ready. Not one stadium is on schedule, IIRC. None of the airports are progressing as needed. The facilities are poor at best eerywhere. Public transport options are all behind schedule or not started. Facilities for teams, support and visitors are all behind.
I hate to be a pessimist, but this is a disaster in process. We still have debate about whether and how to privatize airports, much less final designs and work started.
It smells like the Pan American games but worse.
I hate to be a pessimist, but this is a disaster in process. We still have debate about whether and how to privatize airports, much less final designs and work started.
It smells like the Pan American games but worse.
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It seems unlikely thatanything will be ready. Not one stadium is on schedule, IIRC. None of the airports are progressing as needed. The facilities are poor at best eerywhere. Public transport options are all behind schedule or not started. Facilities for teams, support and visitors are all behind.
I hate to be a pessimist, but this is a disaster in process. We still have debate about whether and how to privatize airports, much less final designs and work started.
It smells like the Pan American games but worse.
I hate to be a pessimist, but this is a disaster in process. We still have debate about whether and how to privatize airports, much less final designs and work started.
It smells like the Pan American games but worse.
And yes, I hope I'm wrong on both cases.
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Isnt this a repeat of South Africa..... and in the end, everything was finished on time. Why will this be different....?
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We all devoutly hope you're correct. It is hard to be optimistic when you read the newspaper every day. Of course Presient Dilma is beginning regular meetings of all concerned, albeit starting that rather too late.
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I hear this so many times while in Brazil.
With the lack of progress towards Brazil being ready for the upcoming events, I tend to believe the above quotation.
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Here is an interesting article that appears in today's New York Times concerning Brazil.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/op...5.html?_r=1&hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/op...5.html?_r=1&hp
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There was even a report by economists of Banco Santander today suggesting that Brazil will have fewer people living in poverty than does the US by the end of 2011! The progress is astounding and mostly very positive.
There are still negatives and the topic of this thread is one of them. Public works here seem to fall victim of what Henrique Mirelles, the new head of the games coordinating body, calls a "vibrant democracy". He's correct. Brazil is a very immature democracy so nobody is comfortable asserting dominance over anyone elses right to stop something.
Thus there remains lots of impunity and progress is sometimes slow.
Today I am optimistic. I think we'll somehow be ready. Don't ask about tomorrow.