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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:03 pm   #1
 
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First class from FRA Cx

I have a First class trip from FRA- booked before the changes on 30th April.

It's 3 sectors at the mo and cost business miles as the longest (3rd) and 2nd sector is in "C" (No availibiltyon the direct fight )

Now there is availabilty in "F" on the first sector to cut out the (unwanted) second sector.

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1. AFAIK when I ring the ICC to cx this route I should only be charged the £20 "change" fee and the extra 25K miles as the first sector would now be the longest and in "F"

This is because I booked the original F before the changes.

Agree?


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2 My partner is 500 miles short of the 25K and I have 10K over.
Will I need to buy her the extra 1K or will the ICC give me leeway and take them from m account?

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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:13 pm   #2
 
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Q1) You haven't really got an F trip from FRA; it's currently a C trip with a freebie F sector.

You can change it for £20 but, as your original price is C, your upgrade to all F willl now be charged at the x2.5 rate.

Q2) no.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:17 pm   #3
 
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As FlyingOnceMore says, it'll be at the new rate to turn it into a proper F ticket.

No leeway either with the 500 mile shortfall. However as there is currently no fee to buy miles via flybmi.com, now is a good time to buy the 1,000 miles that you need.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:30 pm   #4
 
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Q1) You haven't really got an F trip from FRA; it's currently a C trip with a freebie F sector.
You can change it for £20 but, as your original price is C, your upgrade to all F willl now be charged at the x2.5 rate.

Q2) no.
Thank you for the quick ( if vitriolic) answer.


The longest (last) sector was in "C" because there was no "F" ( and still isn't ).

The second sector was the only way I could make the connection to the last sector.


So "if" I change to what I actually wanted in the first place (at the extra expense of £40) I'll be flying in "F" for just over halfway (about 200 miles difference) and then "C" for the rest, but STILL pay for "F" for the whole way!

Does that make you feel better
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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:31 pm   #5
 
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As FlyingOnceMore says, it'll be at the new rate to turn it into a proper F ticket.

No leeway either with the 500 mile shortfall. However as there is currently no fee to buy miles via flybmi.com, now is a good time to buy the 1,000 miles that you need.

Thanks for the speedy repsonse.


Didn't think Q2 was an option and as you say it's a good time to buy 1K miles.

Cheers.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 2:56 pm   #6
 
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So "if" I change to what I actually wanted in the first place (at the extra expense of £40) I'll be flying in "F" for just over halfway (about 200 miles difference) and then "C" for the rest, but STILL pay for "F" for the whole way!
Unless you find F availability for the rest of the flights! As such, if I was you I'd just be happy to have some F for C miles and enjoy a slightly longer trip

PS: What was your exact routing, I'm curious is yours a LH F flight? (Curious if one can manage to do a full C+M including some LH F, or a Miles only C and get a taster of LH F :P)
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Old Jul 5, 09, 3:21 pm   #7
 
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Thumbs down I see no vitriol

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Thank you for the quick ( if vitriolic) answer.
To my mind, just a quick post with the correct information - maybe you won't get such a quick response next time.

Hand. Bite. Feed.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 3:32 pm   #8
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Chill, everyone. It's far too nice a summer's evening .....
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Old Jul 5, 09, 4:36 pm   #9
 
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So "if" I change to what I actually wanted in the first place (at the extra expense of £40) I'll be flying in "F" for just over halfway (about 200 miles difference) and then "C" for the rest, but STILL pay for "F" for the whole way!
That's got nothing to do with whether you should be charged one mileage amount or another

Firstly, let's not forget that the official rule is that you pay for the highest class of travel (guideline 3 here), so the "longest sector" rule is nothing more than courtesy that some of us have been fortunate enough to receive

Secondly, you're changing your routing for whatever reason (whether it be availability or not - it's not DC's fault there wasn't a direct flight), so effectively you are cancelling the previous booking and constructing an entirely new one. Ergo, full mileage cost at today's rates, plus change fees

Sorry if that's not what you want to hear

PS Why so reticent about sharing your routing? ...it would make it so much easier to understand what you're asking...
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Old Jul 6, 09, 7:30 am   #10
 
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Thank you for the quick ( if vitriolic) answer.

Does that make you feel better
You have obviously got the wrong end of the stick.

There was nothing wrong or vitriolic about FlyingOnceMore's answer.
You asked the question and he answered it even if the answers don’t suit.
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Old Jul 6, 09, 7:36 am   #11
 
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In the more (sober ) light of day I see FlyingOnceMore's answer was not vitriolic.

I apologize to all concerned.
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