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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Feb 28, 2015, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by keitherson
Can anyone clue me in with this?

I know what region it involves given there's only three redemptions where FC is 30k, but can't figure this out. I'm assuming it's a decent boomie.
Originally Posted by themaskedman
I'd really like some help on it too if anyone would be so kind, its got me beat as well and I'm really keen on a decent one. Perhaps some one could PM me, pleeease !!
If you can not tell us what your home city is or where you (actually) need to travel, do not expect any handouts.
Neither of you live in the relevant country. The itinerary is also irrelevant since the cost of your positioning flights is prohibitively high.
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Old Feb 28, 2015, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
If you can not tell us what your home city is or where you (actually) need to travel, do not expect any handouts.
Neither of you live in the relevant country. The itinerary is also irrelevant since the cost of your positioning flights is prohibitively high.
As it happens WWE I will be in the States for most of the year and will have plenty of time to 'fly around', hence my interest in some fun trips!!
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by themaskedman
As it happens WWE I will be in the States for most of the year and will have plenty of time to 'fly around', hence my interest in some fun trips!!
How "on earth" did you come to think that the route you were asking for has anything to do with the US?
As keitherson said, there's only 3 regions where an F redemption costs 30k. North America is not one of them.

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Old Mar 1, 2015, 7:38 am
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What?! All depends on the XXX in a boomerang, surely. Only the start and end determine the cost.
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by datsuzei
What?! All depends on the XXX in a boomerang, surely. Only the start and end determine the cost.
I guess some here haven't realized that since 3 months there are no long-range boomerangs any more. It's over.
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
How "on earth" did you come to think that the route you were asking for has anything to do with the US?
As keitherson said, there's only 3 regions where an F redemption costs 30k. North America is not one of them.
Please do not confuse us with facts and your analytical mind.

Many people here live Everywhere and will travel Anywhere but end up going Nowhere - but it is "Fun". @:-)
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 7:11 pm
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Hi has anyone had any succes in the past week in finding availability for sin-mel or sin-syd in sq business class? Ive searched -14 and -4 months but nothing comes up
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Old Mar 1, 2015, 7:23 pm
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Originally Posted by rookieflyer22
Hi has anyone had any succes in the past week in finding availability for sin-mel or sin-syd in sq business class? Ive searched -14 and -4 months but nothing comes up
It hasn't been shown for nearly 4 months now. If you want to see SQ on those sectors you might have to start somewhere else and lo and behold it appears. Perhaps use this evidence to attempt a manual booking via the support channel.
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by wheresmybagba
It hasn't been shown for nearly 4 months now. If you want to see SQ on those sectors you might have to start somewhere else and lo and behold it appears. Perhaps use this evidence to attempt a manual booking via the support channel.
DON'T USE THIS argumet, for crying out loud!!!!
It will just make them shut down those other routes, too.

To the OP. Calling will most likely not help you in this case, because it's SQ blocking it. Either use another airline or use Krisflyer if it absolutely has to be SQ.
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 4:51 am
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Hi wolfvanween sorry for the dumbest question youll probably have aver heard. Do you think itd help if i email lifemiles and tell them i could see availibity on aeroplan?
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 5:01 am
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that could help, indeed, and also posting it to their FB page
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by rookieflyer22
Hi wolfvanween sorry for the dumbest question youll probably have aver heard. Do you think itd help if i email lifemiles and tell them i could see availibity on aeroplan?
If it works, please report! That'd be great!!
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Please do not confuse us with facts and your analytical mind.

Many people here live Everywhere and will travel Anywhere but end up going Nowhere - but it is "Fun". @:-)

Why so rude?? Or I am I missing the NY sense of humour??
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by datsuzei
What?! All depends on the XXX in a boomerang, surely. Only the start and end determine the cost.
My thoughts too datsuzei
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
noreturn-xxx-hiking FC 30K
Is the middle part in C3s (i.e. we are saving 20K) or am I completely off-base and need to read middle part of the thread (read about 20 first pages and last 30)? Thank you!
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