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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
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2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

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LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Feb 10, 2016, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by ExSin
isnt there a 17.xx USD per 1000 miles transfer fee?
nope.
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by Aussie_flyer
nope.
Thanks - I based my question on this page: https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/tra/pr....aspx?D=TTO561


"Transfer fee for each block of 1,000 LifeMiles: USD $17.70* including taxes for each country**. "


Has anyone successfully transferred?
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by ExSin


Has anyone successfully transferred?
this is the trickit thread
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by ExSin
Has anyone successfully transferred?
Yes
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Old Feb 10, 2016, 12:53 pm
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Let's please try to stay on topic of the specific thread. There are active threads available for reading on the subject of points transfers and related bonus deals. One starting point may be: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avian...ore-miles.html

Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 4:02 am
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last minute sq biz

last minute sq biz on an unusual route!
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 4:37 am
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Something seriously wrong with that flight numbering. There is no SQ601, so I would guess this is supposed to be SQ1 as the flight times match. Routing via SIN to get to ICN interesting for sure, but a bit too much a waste of time if you ask me. Overall though good to see SQ showing up even if only very near to travel day. Now if only LM manages to ticket timely.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 4:44 am
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Originally Posted by demue
Something seriously wrong with that flight numbering. There is no SQ601, so I would guess this is supposed to be SQ1 as the flight times match. Routing via SIN to get to ICN interesting for sure, but a bit too much a waste of time if you ask me. Overall though good to see SQ showing up even if only very near to travel day. Now if only LM manages to ticket timely.
Are you sure about that?

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sq601/

I wonder if it's something like an odd one-off flight.

[edit] it shows up on Aeroplan too, bookable, so I suspect indeed it's a real one-off.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 4:51 am
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When UA does "rescue" flights for flights cancelled by mx, these are often bookable on both cash and award fares. Of course availability tends to be great, since the flight is more or less repositioning with passengers. You see this quite often on c6-c1 in particular.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by demue
Now if only LM manages to ticket timely.
Got ticketed on TG within 5min. Based on previous experiences I was shocked by the lightning fast speed!
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 3:35 pm
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Does anyone have a suggestion for C3-C2 in F for under approx. $1.100? PM welcome.
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by tiger302
Does anyone have a suggestion for C3-C2 in F for under approx. $1.100? PM welcome.
where in C3 and where in c2? and whats the assumed cost per mile?
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Old Feb 13, 2016, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Are you sure about that?

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sq601/

I wonder if it's something like an odd one-off flight.

[edit] it shows up on Aeroplan too, bookable, so I suspect indeed it's a real one-off.
Normally for a one off flight (e.g. due to a delay or a positioning flight etc.) SQ would use a 9xxx series flight number and not load it for revenue or award purchases.

In this case it seems that SQ is changing the flight timing for SQ1 from 23:25 to 00:05 so on Feb 16 you got a SQ1 flight at 00:05 in the morning and SQ601 (same day) at 23:25. There is no SQ1 on Feb 17 and it operates at 00:05 again on Feb 18. Good find.

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Old Feb 14, 2016, 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by tiger302
Does anyone have a suggestion for C3-C2 in F for under approx. $1.100? PM welcome.
Without any tricks India -> C2 for 60k in F => USD 900 + 80-xxx Fee/Tax.
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Old Feb 14, 2016, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by hannes08
Without any tricks India -> C2 for 60k in F => USD 900 + 80-xxx Fee/Tax.
Looking into C3n HND/ICN/PEK/PVG and/or C3s BKK/HKG/SIN
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