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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Sep 8, 2017, 2:15 am
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I have the new interface on Chrome (the old one on Firefox). So it can't be a country switch only.
I can't test it though, because every single search ends with some server error.
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Old Sep 8, 2017, 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
every single search ends with some server error.
Same here.
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Old Sep 10, 2017, 10:34 am
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not here. Old interface. Win7. Works better then before... a lot of 63.000 Mile "specials" open. Booked .^
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Old Sep 19, 2017, 10:09 pm
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Searching for LAX-AKL on new interface and receive results for GUA-GDL instead...
https://imgur.com/a/F4SzX
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by wwei5743
Searching for LAX-AKL on new interface and receive results for GUA-GDL instead...
https://imgur.com/a/F4SzX
I get IAH-TGU for CHC-SIN!
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 5:31 pm
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Randomness of results aside, the "semi flexible" award pricing for city pairs based on selected route might have potential for discounts. Anyone found anything juicy?
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 9:05 pm
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Has anyone booked LH F?
I know seats opened up 14 days but can't find a single seat now. Or has it been blocked for LM?
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by terbangalways
Has anyone booked LH F?
I know seats opened up 14 days but can't find a single seat now. Or has it been blocked for LM?
Yeah. I'm not sure if it necessarily opens up 14 days though. For my last booking there was totally random and patchy availability, like 3 days out and 6 days out... but nothing on days 2, 4, 5 or 7 (even though it was showing on UA).

It really is hit and miss.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 9:58 pm
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LH423 and LH421 on Sep26 are available in F. First search I tried.
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Old Sep 20, 2017, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
Randomness of results aside, the "semi flexible" award pricing for city pairs based on selected route might have potential for discounts. Anyone found anything juicy?
There seem to be some interesting possibilities in using the new mixed-cabin-for-prorated-points feature. E.g. C2-C1 for 65K in F (connecting to a Y flight within C1).

However the system seems to artificially limit the combinations shown...not sure what the exact logic is, but would be curious to know if others have more insight.
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by Guvner067
LH423 and LH421 on Sep26 are available in F. First search I tried.
Thanks!
Have you tried from S.E. Asia to EU? Instead of BOS
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 10:58 am
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none of my asia-east coast searches shows up a routing that goes through europe, i wonder if they're purposely blocking these
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by PacificTwo
I get IAH-TGU for CHC-SIN!
About the same time as you posted, I got LAX-BKK when I entered BKK-JFK.
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 3:02 pm
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Is anyone else finding that searches are now taking around 5 minutes instead of 20 seconds?
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by pogonation
Is anyone else finding that searches are now taking around 5 minutes instead of 20 seconds?
depends on how you search. Specify airlinefor quicker results .
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