May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
Last edit by: SingaporeDon
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.
While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.
If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.
If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes
Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.
Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.
Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.
NOTE: This previous thread has been closed; it can be read here LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0
Jan 22, 2017, 6:06 am
#2491
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 93
presently you are ending no-where as the site is unavailable since yesterday....
Jan 22, 2017, 9:33 pm
#2493
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 162
Lifemiles terms and conditions state minimum 48 hours lead-in required for award redemptions on partner airlines. Not sure if that's causing your problem 'close in'.
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
Jan 24, 2017, 1:43 am
#2495
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SXE
Programs: QF LTG, VA Gold, BA Gold, HH, SFSC
Posts: 502
Jan 24, 2017, 4:29 am
#2496
Join Date: Mar 2009
Programs: BA Gold, LH, SEN, RJ Platinum, ALL Diamond, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 643
Mixed cabin
Looks like mixed cabins are not showing, want to book a First Class flowed by Business Class flight. In one search (by Airline) it only shows Business or Economy all the way.
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
Jan 24, 2017, 4:32 am
#2497
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,606
Looks like mixed cabins are not showing, want to book a First Class flowed by Business Class flight. In one search (by Airline) it only shows Business or Economy all the way.
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
2 dates close-in.
Nothing else tried.
Last edited by SuperFlyBoy; Jan 24, 2017 at 5:17 am
Jan 24, 2017, 6:12 am
#2498
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
Search star alliance and youll be lucky to see that F/F connection at all
Search by segments and F then F show independently.
most common for TG600 (HKG)...
Jan 24, 2017, 3:47 pm
#2499
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Programs: AY Platinum, UA Premier Platinum, OneWorld Emerald, VA Platinum
Posts: 558
Looks like mixed cabins are not showing, want to book a First Class flowed by Business Class flight. In one search (by Airline) it only shows Business or Economy all the way.
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
When you search segment by segment, how far apart are the two flights (in time).
Jan 29, 2017, 2:32 pm
#2500
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NCL and LBA
Programs: BD*G, BAGold, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 3,269
Looks like mixed cabins are not showing, want to book a First Class flowed by Business Class flight. In one search (by Airline) it only shows Business or Economy all the way.
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
Segment by segment search I see First available followed by the second flight in Business. I contact support Team and they informed that they cannot book manually a mixed cabin that is not showing on the website, surprised about that fact.
Do you have similar experiences?
I'm having this problem on a mildly creative routing in that the subheadings at the top show Y - Y price, J - J price, F - J price. When you click through F it gives both segments in J. Good connection times and F available if booked separately.
Feb 5, 2017, 9:17 pm
#2503
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
About the mixed cabin redemptions, i have a TG-TG F/J award for January 2018, but anticipating the second flight (currently on a 773) to be upgraded to a 747 with F sometime before then. Assuming there will be F availability, will this be a free change to F from J? Of course my F/J ticket is at F miles...
Anyone with experience?
The CoC dont specify anything about it.
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
Redemption of award tickets in mixed cabins (meaning combining segments in economy, business or first class) is allowed under the following conditions:
-Mixed cabins are only allowed when there is no availability on the preferred cabin selected when searching any of the segments in the Origen/Destination. If the member does not select a preferred cabin the search will be made in Economy Class.
-Mixed cabins are only allowed between the selected preferred cabin and inferior cabins.
If for a segment there is more than one cabin available, the combination will be made with the highest cabin available.
-The mileage needed for the whole award ticket corresponds to the mileage for the highest cabin.
-Reimbursement and date change conditions for the award ticket are the conditions of the highest cabin of the ticket.
-Date changes are subject to availability. If there is no availability on the redeemed cabin on the desired date, if the member chooses to do so, cabin changes are allowed. -Change in cabins (even to an inferior cabin) will not result in a redeposit of the redeemed miles.
-For date changes to proceed at least one of the segments of each Origen/Destination must be on the highest cabin redeemed.
Anyone with experience?
The CoC dont specify anything about it.
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
Redemption of award tickets in mixed cabins (meaning combining segments in economy, business or first class) is allowed under the following conditions:
-Mixed cabins are only allowed when there is no availability on the preferred cabin selected when searching any of the segments in the Origen/Destination. If the member does not select a preferred cabin the search will be made in Economy Class.
-Mixed cabins are only allowed between the selected preferred cabin and inferior cabins.
If for a segment there is more than one cabin available, the combination will be made with the highest cabin available.
-The mileage needed for the whole award ticket corresponds to the mileage for the highest cabin.
-Reimbursement and date change conditions for the award ticket are the conditions of the highest cabin of the ticket.
-Date changes are subject to availability. If there is no availability on the redeemed cabin on the desired date, if the member chooses to do so, cabin changes are allowed. -Change in cabins (even to an inferior cabin) will not result in a redeposit of the redeemed miles.
-For date changes to proceed at least one of the segments of each Origen/Destination must be on the highest cabin redeemed.
Feb 5, 2017, 11:27 pm
#2504
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,838
About the mixed cabin redemptions, i have a TG-TG F/J award for January 2018, but anticipating the second flight (currently on a 773) to be upgraded to a 747 with F sometime before then. Assuming there will be F availability, will this be a free change to F from J? Of course my F/J ticket is at F miles...
Anyone with experience?
The CoC dont specify anything about it.
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
Redemption of award tickets in mixed cabins (meaning combining segments in economy, business or first class) is allowed under the following conditions:
-Mixed cabins are only allowed when there is no availability on the preferred cabin selected when searching any of the segments in the Origen/Destination. If the member does not select a preferred cabin the search will be made in Economy Class.
-Mixed cabins are only allowed between the selected preferred cabin and inferior cabins.
If for a segment there is more than one cabin available, the combination will be made with the highest cabin available.
-The mileage needed for the whole award ticket corresponds to the mileage for the highest cabin.
-Reimbursement and date change conditions for the award ticket are the conditions of the highest cabin of the ticket.
-Date changes are subject to availability. If there is no availability on the redeemed cabin on the desired date, if the member chooses to do so, cabin changes are allowed. -Change in cabins (even to an inferior cabin) will not result in a redeposit of the redeemed miles.
-For date changes to proceed at least one of the segments of each Origen/Destination must be on the highest cabin redeemed.
Anyone with experience?
The CoC dont specify anything about it.
https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/abo/wnb/wnbtercond.aspx
Redemption of award tickets in mixed cabins (meaning combining segments in economy, business or first class) is allowed under the following conditions:
-Mixed cabins are only allowed when there is no availability on the preferred cabin selected when searching any of the segments in the Origen/Destination. If the member does not select a preferred cabin the search will be made in Economy Class.
-Mixed cabins are only allowed between the selected preferred cabin and inferior cabins.
If for a segment there is more than one cabin available, the combination will be made with the highest cabin available.
-The mileage needed for the whole award ticket corresponds to the mileage for the highest cabin.
-Reimbursement and date change conditions for the award ticket are the conditions of the highest cabin of the ticket.
-Date changes are subject to availability. If there is no availability on the redeemed cabin on the desired date, if the member chooses to do so, cabin changes are allowed. -Change in cabins (even to an inferior cabin) will not result in a redeposit of the redeemed miles.
-For date changes to proceed at least one of the segments of each Origen/Destination must be on the highest cabin redeemed.
Feb 6, 2017, 6:57 am
#2505
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 18
I am trying to book JFK-ICN-CRK on OZ F/J. The availability is not showing on LM for the full route or by segments. It is available to UA/AC/NH.
Ive tried the various permutations of the search tool but no joy. Is there any other way to force this routing to show?
Ive tried the various permutations of the search tool but no joy. Is there any other way to force this routing to show?