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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

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Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0

Old Jul 15, 2016, 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by ExSin
And - not sure if it applies to all but they mailed back to ask for a copy (scan) of my passport. Sent it through and they immediately responded back with a booking reference.
Yes, they'll need a *color* scan (or photo) of the passport photo page for every passenger
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Old Jul 15, 2016, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by lkar
I believe it's the Franz Joseph II Liechtenstein International Airport.
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Old Jul 15, 2016, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by lkar
I believe it's the Franz Joseph II Liechtenstein International Airport.
... tells me an american (boooahhh) ...

But you're aware, that your folk doesn't even now the difference between Austria and Australia?


And do you still think, that Sweden is a nice city in Switzerland?


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Old Jul 20, 2016, 8:32 am
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Does the screenshot method work for connections >8hrs ?

This is a straight forward flight USA - Southern Africa with one connection in IST. Biz available on both legs, but since IST layover is 13hrs, the website does not show it.
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by soy
Does the screenshot method work for connections >8hrs ?

This is a straight forward flight USA - Southern Africa with one connection in IST. Biz available on both legs, but since IST layover is 13hrs, the website does not show it.
past anecdotal posts show it works some times. just try your luck!
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Old Jul 20, 2016, 8:50 pm
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Old Jul 21, 2016, 9:48 am
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are there any (60/66k or cheaper) f-loops from c2 to c3 left?

i did many of them:
eu-land of the high mountains,
to some strange places in russia
as well as to an island paradise

always great discounts to bkk/sin/hkg. but i cant find any possible route anymore. there are a few routes left the other way around but its becoming pretty challenging to find a great f-deal

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Old Jul 24, 2016, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by l0pez
are there any (60/66k or cheaper) f-loops from c2 to c3 left?

i did many of them:
eu-land of the high mountains,
to some strange places in russia
as well as to an island paradise

always great discounts to bkk/sin/hkg. but i cant find any possible route anymore. there are a few routes left the other way around but its becoming pretty challenging to find a great f-deal
not many boomerangs going east are left in the system, and the few are well guarded. going west, however, is still easy to get (pending availability, of course)
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 9:40 pm
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Ignoring the apparent major bug thats showing up this week, where F searches return all segments in C only, C serches have Y segments only etc....does anyone have a recollection / saved PDF of the award chart?
Seems Australia-South Asia is now 60K in first! thought it was always 50K, like North Asia.
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Old Jul 24, 2016, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
Ignoring the apparent major bug thats showing up this week, where F searches return all segments in C only, C serches have Y segments only etc....does anyone have a recollection / saved PDF of the award chart?
Seems Australia-South Asia is now 60K in first! thought it was always 50K, like North Asia.
No, Australia-South Asia was 60k...this has not changed. It was always a noted quirk that SYD-BKK at 60k was more than SYD-BKK-TYO at 50k.
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Old Jul 25, 2016, 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
... tells me an american (boooahhh) ...

But you're aware, that your folk doesn't even now the difference between Austria and Australia?


And do you still think, that Sweden is a nice city in Switzerland?

We can do better, We have a rambling idiot over here who wants to build huuuge wall. Problem is that with Mexicans gaining visa free entry into Canada in 2017, this moron will now have to build two walls. First one 1933 miles. The next one ( with Canada )is almost 4000 miles long and if you include Alaska - Canada it is 5567 miles. The job is so huuge that we need to import and employ additional workers - and you guessed it - Mexican immigrants. The loop is closed.
And since we are at it: Toronto is the capital of Canada and Stockholm is the capital of Denmark, where they speak Dutch.

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Old Jul 26, 2016, 10:16 pm
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i think you have to start out of toronto and force the carrier wwe with the total miles 1/3 of the original , thanks again
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Old Jul 29, 2016, 7:33 am
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Trying to book an LH/UA F flight that's showing as available on united.com (LHF-ORD-SFO), but LM website is showing it as Business while asking for 87K miles. Is this a bug? Any way around it?
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Old Jul 29, 2016, 7:53 am
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call them. Flight class display is extraordinarily unreliable as of recently
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Old Jul 29, 2016, 8:32 pm
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seems the issue pops up when you select an airline carrier and look for F class with connections.
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