Hi
I'm an aeroplan member and using my points to fly from ORD to ICN. I booked a first class ticket but I'm not sure that the aircraft has first class. The flight number is OZ235 and the aircraft is 777. This is my first time to use Asiana so not sure of the setup.
Does anyone know if this flight has first class as opposed to just Business?
Thanks
Hi
I'm an aeroplan member and using my points to fly from ORD to ICN. I booked a first class ticket but I'm not sure that the aircraft has first class. The flight number is OZ235 and the aircraft is 777. This is my first time to use Asiana so not sure of the setup.
Does anyone know if this flight has first class as opposed to just Business?
Thanks
Of course it does, OZ use the only 3 class 777 they have to fly ICN-ORD-ICN.
It is also listed in OZ timetable this flight as F,C,Y.
Thanks for clarification. On their website their 777 is listed as business and economy only.
Because they only have 1 777 that is 3 class, so that they don't want to confuse other people with the rest of them are 2 class. This particular 777 serves exclusively ORD only, occasionally short hops to HKG or MNL.
ORD/JFK/LAX are always 3 class cities from the beginning. Before the 3 class 777 came last December, it was 74M.
Of course it does, OZ use the only 3 class 777 they have to fly ICN-ORD-ICN.
It is also listed in OZ timetable this flight as F,C,Y.
Just out of curiosity, why does OZ only furnish 1 of its B777s with 3-class seatings? If OZ doesn't see the need for F, why bother with 1 aircraft. Are there plans to add F to the remaining B777s in the fleet? BTW, the B747s are done with refurbishing, right?
Just out of curiosity, why does OZ only furnish 1 of its B777s with 3-class seatings? If OZ doesn't see the need for F, why bother with 1 aircraft. Are there plans to add F to the remaining B777s in the fleet? BTW, the B747s are done with refurbishing, right?
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They didn't furnish an old 2 class 777 into 3 class. That is the newest 777 delivered to OZ that come with 3 class arrived end of Nov, 08. I think bobbybrown had mentioned before from now on, any new 777 delivered to OZ will be 3 class. Also any 777 comes are going to replace 747, ORD-ICN used to be running 74M.
And no, there are no plans to add F to the remaining of the 777, as it is costly (other than removing C seats, they need to add a bathroom for F, as 2 class 777 does not have bathroom in the front), if they are going to do it, they would have done it long time ago. You can see they even save the cost when they change the old 2 class 777 C seat into the new C seat without AVOD.
The 2 744 and 2 74M are done with refurbishing long time ago with the exception of HL7417. They need the plane as spare, no time to go in for the shop, not even for new paint.
Windows are 1A, 1K, 2A, and 2K. 1A or 1K may possibly be blocked by relief captain and FO for the outbound, inbound basically you can only choose row 2, as the 4 seats at row 1 are for relief pilot, FO, and deadhead pilot, FO.
2A and 2K are better seats as you can put your personal stuff at the space between the seat and the window, and wouldn't need to worry if your stuff move behind as there is a wall.
F in this 777 has basically no storage compartment in the seats at all except overhead bins. You may store small stuff under the so called "visitor seat", little seat to use when your seat go to full flat position. But that little space usually FA use to store to duvet.
Wow... that's cutting F availability by 1/2 even before any reward tickets or possible upgrades?
I don't have a problem getting F award with OZ on this route, but remember there is only 1 3-class 777, therefore they can only fly 3 times a week to ORD, you have to be flexible from the beginning for dates, many times you end up with no award seats available for connecting flights, my flight arrive ICN from ORD on a date with OZ is a blackout date for awards.
As for upgrades, not sure what you are talking about. I don't think OZ has offer any upgrade from C to F, as most of the times there are only 1 or 2 pax on board in F, my return flight ICN-ORD I was the only "pax" in F, while C and Y 100% full. They probably follow the same rule with SQ and NH, no such thing for upgrade to F, they would rather leave F empty as it is.
I have asked the F purser, OZ have this rule about pilots sit in F, FO usually sit in C, (although I have seen FO sit in F too, who likes to sleep at an angle rather than horizontal flat ?) and FA sit in Y.
Because they only have 1 777 that is 3 class, so that they don't want to confuse other people with the rest of them are 2 class. This particular 777 serves exclusively ORD only, occasionally short hops to HKG or MNL.
I am booked using miles on F from JFK-ICN and C from ICN-MNL for there is no F class service. You mentioned that this particular 777 ac does occasional short hops to MNL. Will I be seated in F when I happen to be on this plane or should I call UA to change the class of booking before the day of departure? I just don't understand why OZ is not being clear for this ac seat config.
Will I be seated in F when I happen to be on this plane or should I call UA to change the class of booking before the day of departure? I just don't understand why OZ is not being clear for this ac seat config.
If your booking code is I (*A C award code) on that segment, even if the plane change to a 3 class, you will still be seated in C. You have to call UA to change to O (*A F award code). OZ is very strict about what code they see on your ticket.
Windows are 1A, 1K, 2A, and 2K. 1A or 1K may possibly be blocked by relief captain and FO for the outbound, inbound basically you can only choose row 2, as the 4 seats at row 1 are for relief pilot, FO, and deadhead pilot, FO.
2A and 2K are better seats as you can put your personal stuff at the space between the seat and the window, and wouldn't need to worry if your stuff move behind as there is a wall.
F in this 777 has basically no storage compartment in the seats at all except overhead bins. You may store small stuff under the so called "visitor seat", little seat to use when your seat go to full flat position. But that little space usually FA use to store to duvet.
Why put a deadheading pilot and FO in First? I mean, they are still going to get a rest period before flying back. That's significant revenue potential that is being lost.
Why put a deadheading pilot and FO in First? I mean, they are still going to get a rest period before flying back. That's significant revenue potential that is being lost.
So that they can save the cost of sending those crews two days ahead, which means two nights in hotels in ORD for 2 captain, and 2 FO. They also probably figure they are not going to get more than 4 paid F or award F pax. Since those seats are going to fly empty anyway, why not put the deadhead pilots over there ?
Somehow maybe also there is something to do about the design of OZ 3 class 777, maybe they don't have enough crew rest seats. One thing I am sure is on UA and NH's 777, when you enter thru door 1L, there is a bathroom right by the door on the left. In this 777, it is actually a crew rest seat, they actually have to put a bathroom right in front of the middle aisle seats instead.
