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Old Nov 2, 09, 10:44 pm   #1
 
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Business Class for ICN-JFK

I might be taking OZ C for ICN-JFK.

What's the seat like? Is it a fully-flat bed or only lie-flat model?

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Old Nov 2, 09, 10:48 pm   #2
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I might be taking OZ C for ICN-JFK.

What's the seat like? Is it a fully-flat bed or only lie-flat model?

Thanks.
It's angled flat bed.
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Old Nov 2, 09, 10:51 pm   #3
 
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It's angled flat bed.
Thanks for the quick reply....sigh...as expected.

How "new" is the seat? Most of the Asian-based carriers like SQ and CX have the fully-flat business seat nowadays.
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Old Nov 3, 09, 6:18 am   #4
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Thanks for the quick reply....sigh...as expected.

How "new" is the seat? Most of the Asian-based carriers like SQ and CX have the fully-flat business seat nowadays.
It is a standard seat like you will find on QF, LH and the new "regional" SQ. The seat is perfectly fine and the service will be better than SQ or CX.
Enjoy the flight!
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Old Nov 3, 09, 7:34 am   #5
 
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It is a standard seat like you will find on QF, LH and the new "regional" SQ. The seat is perfectly fine and the service will be better than SQ or CX.
Enjoy the flight!
I asked my agent to book Upper-Deck, but, she told me it's not available for booking???
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Old Nov 3, 09, 11:39 am   #6
 
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How "new" is the seat? Most of the Asian-based carriers like SQ and CX have the fully-flat business seat nowadays.
Incorrect, for asian carriers, ONLY SQ and CX have 180 degrees horizontal flat business seat.
OZ, KE, CI, BR, TG, NH, and JL all have angle flat seats in C.

If you want 180 degrees horizontal flat C seat, there are US carriers like AC, DL and UA have it, but service of course are not comparable to asian carriers.

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Old Nov 3, 09, 7:30 pm   #7
 
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Incorrect, for asian carriers, ONLY SQ and CX have 180 degrees horizontal flat business seat.
OZ, KE, CI, BR, TG, NH, and JL all have angle flat seats in C.

If you want 180 degrees horizontal flat C seat, there are US carriers like AC, DL and UA have it, but service of course are not comparable to asian carriers.
KE is progressively introducing 180 degree lie flat in C - including 1/2 JFK-ICN runs.

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/gp...if_ni_main.jsp
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Old Nov 3, 09, 9:09 pm   #8
 
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and the service will be better than SQ or CX.
Really?
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Old Nov 4, 09, 2:30 pm   #9
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Really?
Really! Yes, you will find people who prefer CX or SQ (especially in F) but if you look through this board than most people believe service on OZ is better. I personally would chose OZ over SQ any time.
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Old Nov 4, 09, 4:35 pm   #10
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Really! Yes, you will find people who prefer CX or SQ (especially in F) but if you look through this board than most people believe service on OZ is better. I personally would chose OZ over SQ any time.
I'll second that. I can't compare F because I've yet to fly either SQ or OZ in F, but in C I definitely prefer the OZ service over SQ. On average, the OZ FAs seem the most genuine/caring in seeing that the passengers have a pleasant flight. As mentioned by many others, SQ's FAs seem almost robotic at times. Of course that's my opinion after having flown many flights on OZ and SQ. I often see reports by people who after having only flown an airline once or twice form a very absolute opinion of that airline, which I think is totally ridiculous. Of course I can pick a single SQ flight and say the service on that flight was better than one particular flight on OZ. You have to though have many flights and average out the experience.
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Old Nov 6, 09, 12:06 am   #11
 
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I'll second that.
Our (Mrs and I) limited experiences find SQ and OZ to be very similar in service and definitely a notch above CX. We completed a OW DONE4 coupled with a *A business class award travel in Spring this year. The CX and BA flat-bed seats were very comfortable but the SQ (SIN-CMB-SIN-ICN) and OZ (ICN-SEA) services were a class apart from the OW counterparts.

I've never had so many glasses of orange juice on a flight like the one experienced on the SQ SIN-ICN red-eye flight breakfast. I had to literally say "Please, no more!" before the flight attendant got the hint

The wine was pouring non-stop on the ICN-SEA OZ flight (whereas we had to literally ask for refills, call buttons and all, on CX flights - and we flew CX quite a bit!) The Bibimbap dinner was absolutely delicious and rivals the best of SQ meals. The attention to detail and the warm but yet professional OZ service made for the perfect encore to our 3-month long RTW journey!

That said, we didn't care much for the OZ business class lounge in ICN. This lounge doesn't even stack up to SIN T2 lounge, let alone the new T3 lounge.
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Old Nov 6, 09, 5:53 am   #12
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That said, we didn't care much for the OZ business class lounge in ICN. This lounge doesn't even stack up to SIN T2 lounge, let alone the new T3 lounge.
While the OZ lounges do have some issues and there's a lot of room for improvement, they're way better than almost all *A lounges in the U.S. and Europe, at least in my opinion. Still though they're a far cry from the old, now closed, SKL at ICN. As to comparing them to the SQ lounges in SIN, I'd say there's not really all that much difference, though hot food service times at the OZ lounges is pretty poor, so if you want to eat the SQ lounges would defintely be a big step up.
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Old Nov 6, 09, 7:06 am   #13
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You will find people who prefer CX or SQ (especially in F) but ... most people [on this board] believe service on OZ is better.
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I'll second that ... in C I definitely prefer the OZ service over SQ. On average, the OZ FAs seem the most genuine/caring in seeing that the passengers have a pleasant flight.
AGREE!
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Old Nov 6, 09, 7:38 am   #14
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On average, the OZ FAs seem the most genuine/caring in seeing that the passengers have a pleasant flight. As mentioned by many others, SQ's FAs seem almost robotic at times.
I never flew with SQ I flew with OZ numerous times and the F/A's are very nice. BTW, I believe OZ hires only University graduates as F/A's - at least this is what I heard... (or I mixed OZ with BR) - but there is one airline in Asia, that hires only University graduates as F/A's... And I believe it is OZ.

PS. I am flying with them to SYD tomorrow, so I will ask...
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Old Nov 6, 09, 9:02 am   #15
 
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I'll second that. I can't compare F because I've yet to fly either SQ or OZ in F, but in C I definitely prefer the OZ service over SQ. On average, the OZ FAs seem the most genuine/caring in seeing that the passengers have a pleasant flight.
On return from SYD to LHR, FA came up to my wife -after we had landed - and said "you look so tired, let me make you a cup of tea".

Not expected!
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