Help with Beijing please
#16
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In the case of the airport and/or hotel taxis, the keys to not getting ripped off are (1) to confirm that the meter has been reset when you get in and (2) get a copy of the receipt (and the driver's name and license number if necessary).
Of course, if the driver takes a roundabout route, it is hard to know if you are new to the city. However, don't freak out also just because you're on some highway that you've never seen before. Beijing has five (or is it six now?) ring roads, and taking them can sometimes be a faster albeit longer route.
At the end of the day, taxis in Beijing are so cheap anyway...it is not worth getting too stressed over it.
Oh yeah, a few years back, I was ripped off by a taxi (which was waiting outside the Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza -- a foreigner hotel if there ever was one) on an airport ride. The taxi driver was really friendly and took the normal route. Only when we arrived did I discover that the fare was 3x what it should have been. I challenged the driver but without concrete proof other than the ridiculously high fare, he denied any wrongdoing (surprise, surprise) but agree to accept less than what was shown on the meter. Still, it was about 30 kuai more than it should have been. In hindsight, I should have given the driver nothing and walked out and threatened to call the police if he tried to stop me.
Of course, if the driver takes a roundabout route, it is hard to know if you are new to the city. However, don't freak out also just because you're on some highway that you've never seen before. Beijing has five (or is it six now?) ring roads, and taking them can sometimes be a faster albeit longer route.
At the end of the day, taxis in Beijing are so cheap anyway...it is not worth getting too stressed over it.
Oh yeah, a few years back, I was ripped off by a taxi (which was waiting outside the Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza -- a foreigner hotel if there ever was one) on an airport ride. The taxi driver was really friendly and took the normal route. Only when we arrived did I discover that the fare was 3x what it should have been. I challenged the driver but without concrete proof other than the ridiculously high fare, he denied any wrongdoing (surprise, surprise) but agree to accept less than what was shown on the meter. Still, it was about 30 kuai more than it should have been. In hindsight, I should have given the driver nothing and walked out and threatened to call the police if he tried to stop me.
Last edited by fallinasleep; May 24, 2005 at 1:33 pm
#17
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Originally Posted by fallinasleep
Beijing has five (or is it six now?) ring roads, and taking them can sometimes be a faster albeit longer route.
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Originally Posted by moondog
we're really zeroing in on subtopicopia here, but just to set the record straight: 6th ring should be complete within the next year or so, BUT there is no 1st ring.... therefore, there are currently around 4.5 ring roads.
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Originally Posted by moondog
wow, twice in as many weeks, our minds have locked; i was on the verge of including the moat deal in my post, but declined to do so in the end on the grounds that most people couldn't care less and some might poke fun at my (perceived) inability to discern a mass of filthy still water from a viable roadway.
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Originally Posted by runningshoes
So when all is said and done, what is a rough estimate of what a taxi should cost from the airport to one of the hotels, say the Sheraton?
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Originally Posted by fallinasleep
RMB 90-100 but the driver is going to curse at you in Mandarin for such a short ride
FYI, many Sheraton-bound persons get taken to the Hilton because the Chinese name for Hilton sounds a lot like "Sheraton". To avoid such confusion, be sure to refer to the Sheraton by its proper name (Great Wall Hotel).
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Originally Posted by moondog
FYI, many Sheraton-bound persons get taken to the Hilton because the Chinese name for Hilton sounds a lot like "Sheraton".
This happened to me in Nanjing a few years ago...Was booked at the Sheraton Nanjing, and the cabbie took us to the Hilton. 'Hilton' in Chinese is something like "Xi Er Dung" (SEE-air-dung)...After much drama, we just had him drop us at the Hilton, and the good folks at the Hilton actually DROVE US to the Sheraton in a hotel car, free of charge.
Anyway, I now know better--not just for this instance, but if I'm unfamiliar with the hotel and I don't know the Chinese name and street, it's always a good idea to send an e-mail to the hotel and ask them for directions (or at least the hotel name) in Chinese...Print it off and take it with you.
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Hello everyone,
We will be arriving in Beijing on Oct. 1 (apparently a bad idea, but somewhat cast in stone now) and I am wondering if anyone has used, or heard of <http://www.sinohotelguide.com/travel/chauffeur.html> or something similar? With the National Holiday I am hoping to pre-arrange as much as possible to try and avoid some of the possible chaos. I appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
Rothsix
We will be arriving in Beijing on Oct. 1 (apparently a bad idea, but somewhat cast in stone now) and I am wondering if anyone has used, or heard of <http://www.sinohotelguide.com/travel/chauffeur.html> or something similar? With the National Holiday I am hoping to pre-arrange as much as possible to try and avoid some of the possible chaos. I appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
Rothsix
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Originally Posted by Rothsix
Hello everyone,
We will be arriving in Beijing on Oct. 1 (apparently a bad idea, but somewhat cast in stone now) and I am wondering if anyone has used, or heard of <http://www.sinohotelguide.com/travel/chauffeur.html> or something similar? With the National Holiday I am hoping to pre-arrange as much as possible to try and avoid some of the possible chaos. I appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
Rothsix
We will be arriving in Beijing on Oct. 1 (apparently a bad idea, but somewhat cast in stone now) and I am wondering if anyone has used, or heard of <http://www.sinohotelguide.com/travel/chauffeur.html> or something similar? With the National Holiday I am hoping to pre-arrange as much as possible to try and avoid some of the possible chaos. I appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
Rothsix
-eating duck at Xiao Wangfu's instead of Quanjude
-going to a great wall site other than Badaling, Mutianyu, or Simatai
-laying low from Gugong, Summer Palace, Temple of Heaven until the holiday is over, if possible.
-if the leaves are in bloom Xiangshan is a must, but I wouldn't go there during National Day. There is another park nearby that offers similar natural features, but isn't famous
-spend some time at the universities. They should be relatively peaceful and the area is quite interesting.
I wouldn't worry too much about cabs or hotel bookings.
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Just there, no taxi problems
Hello:
As non-Chinese speaking tourists, neither my wife nor I had any problem with the Beijing taxis on our visit about three weeks ago - and we took quite a few of them.
Even traveling separately, no problems. However, we did each have maps of the city which we kept open and tried to follow along during the ride. Only once did I think I was going the wrong way, but then I saw it was only a slightly longer way and likely much faster as it was on one of the ring roads.
I had read most of the comments on FT about the Beijing taxis before our trip, so I paid attention to the meter, and I always carried small change so I could pay exact fare (or less if I thought I needed to) - but again, the problem situations never came up.
Have a good time!
As non-Chinese speaking tourists, neither my wife nor I had any problem with the Beijing taxis on our visit about three weeks ago - and we took quite a few of them.
Even traveling separately, no problems. However, we did each have maps of the city which we kept open and tried to follow along during the ride. Only once did I think I was going the wrong way, but then I saw it was only a slightly longer way and likely much faster as it was on one of the ring roads.
I had read most of the comments on FT about the Beijing taxis before our trip, so I paid attention to the meter, and I always carried small change so I could pay exact fare (or less if I thought I needed to) - but again, the problem situations never came up.
Have a good time!
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Don't be scared of Taxis in Beijing. They very rarely rip people off. Beijing is one of the safest cities in the world.
Enjoy barganing with people for goods you want and pay a price you can accept and don't worry if its the absolutely lowest price. These people don't make that much scratch.
For tropical after Xian head to Hainan Island and the resort town of Sanya. Its got the only real beach resort in China.
Enjoy a great country!
Enjoy barganing with people for goods you want and pay a price you can accept and don't worry if its the absolutely lowest price. These people don't make that much scratch.
For tropical after Xian head to Hainan Island and the resort town of Sanya. Its got the only real beach resort in China.
Enjoy a great country!
#30
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Originally Posted by Rothsix
I am wondering if anyone has used, or heard of <http://www.sinohotelguide.com/travel/chauffeur.html> or something similar?
The cab driver took me the most direct route, but the car did not have a visible meter charge. There was a meter, and I saw her turn it on and heard the printing noise it makes, but I couldn't see any lit numbers. Once she stopped the car she stopped the meter and gave me the total verbally, and it looked like it was off the top of her head. It sounded like too much, but I wasn't sure since I hadn't taken a cab on that route before, so I asked to see the receipt. She handed me a receipt that had the fare she quoted me, so I paid. The next day, I was riding to the airport with an expat who told me I paid too much. When I told him what happened, he asked me if the receipt she gave me was for that ride or for another ride, perhaps from another time or another day. Good question...I had no idea.
He recommended a driver to me and my friend which we used for a day to the Great Wall, shopping, running errands, and to the airport for our HK sidetrip for only 400 RMB (less than $50). She was also scheduled to pick me up when I was delayed returning from HK for only 60 RMB (about $7). If you can find a private driver like that, it's great -- she was very friendly, very reliable, and very affordable!
The other taxi trips I had were fine -- very courteous, efficient drivers, including one who stopped the meter and went out of his way to ask the uniformed security guards at the apartment complex I stayed at for a few nights how to get to the building I needed. I speak no Chinese, so I had a guidebook with the names of tourist destinations written in Chinese. I also had a piece of paper or cards with the name of my lodging (hotel and then apartment) in Chinese. Finally, I downloaded several other things in Chinese to my Palm using Repligo from this site - http://www.beijingtraveltips.com/, and I would just pull up the info and show it to the driver. I'm so glad I was prepared with that.
-Sabrina