7-9 Days in Asia -- Need advice!
#31
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Starwood hotels in BKK.
The cheapest rate would be Royal Orchid Sheraton Hotel by Chao Phya River : quite old hotel but have a nice view by the river, located next to the centre of antique (quite expensive stuff) but not convenient to go places by yourself.
2 interesting starwood hotels are Sheraton Grande and Westin Grande. You might get better rate from Westin Grande ( just open less than a year). These are located on Sukhumvit rd. next to the shopping center for local and nearby area to buy souvenir (in case you forgot to buy something from Chiang Mai). Many good tailors located in this area. The most convenient is they are next to the Sky Train (BTS) and Underground Train which can bring you to the most famous weekend market "Jatuchak". Make sure you're in Bkk either Sat. or Sun.
Good luck !!!
2 interesting starwood hotels are Sheraton Grande and Westin Grande. You might get better rate from Westin Grande ( just open less than a year). These are located on Sukhumvit rd. next to the shopping center for local and nearby area to buy souvenir (in case you forgot to buy something from Chiang Mai). Many good tailors located in this area. The most convenient is they are next to the Sky Train (BTS) and Underground Train which can bring you to the most famous weekend market "Jatuchak". Make sure you're in Bkk either Sat. or Sun.
Good luck !!!
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Of Cabs and Cash
I guess what scares me most about this trip is getting off the plane and navigating the airport-to-city/hotel scene. Like arrival at any new place in a completely foreign culture, it's always disorienting and confusing -- you're never sure if a cabbie is trying to rip you off or if it's actually a fair deal.
I remember the first time I flew into Cairo -- people shoved around me, trying to carry my bags, shuffle me into their taxi cabs and get a few extra "bakshish". haha... Luckily my friends showed up before I drowned in the sea of welcoming Egyptian hands.
Anyway, once I'm at the hotel, it's usually much easier to pull out a map and get oriented to the city and the "pulse of life." I just hate landing at airports in foreign cultures for the first time. Any tips on that in BKK and SIN (particularly at night)?
Follow-up question: In most places, I've found it best to use my ATM card to get local currency. Is this what I should expect in Singapore, Chiang Mai and Bangkok as well? Or should I carry a wad of cash to change at a stall somewhere?
I remember the first time I flew into Cairo -- people shoved around me, trying to carry my bags, shuffle me into their taxi cabs and get a few extra "bakshish". haha... Luckily my friends showed up before I drowned in the sea of welcoming Egyptian hands.
Anyway, once I'm at the hotel, it's usually much easier to pull out a map and get oriented to the city and the "pulse of life." I just hate landing at airports in foreign cultures for the first time. Any tips on that in BKK and SIN (particularly at night)?
Follow-up question: In most places, I've found it best to use my ATM card to get local currency. Is this what I should expect in Singapore, Chiang Mai and Bangkok as well? Or should I carry a wad of cash to change at a stall somewhere?
#33
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at arrival in BKK there is a taxi stand where they take your details and send you off with the registered taxi firms, make sure the people at the desk explain exactly where u want to go - so the driver doesn't take you around "hoping" to find it..
but make sure you use the desk - its outside.. they will tell you the fixed price..
chang mai is much more sedate affair, but if you have no pickup try and get the hotel to come get you.. (should be free)
starwoods in bkk are pretty good on p-line think $50 for the S Grand search in biddingfortravel.com
also worth note in this part of the world for late deals is latestays.com and wotif.com
chatuchak market is over priced but worth a look - you will buy most things cheaper at the world trade center... also if you buy any "dodgy" knock offs here they actively search for them in NRT so if your bags are leaving the airport be aware..
i would hire a long tail boat and ask for a tour of the canals along the chao phraya.. good photo op's and maybe the floating market. be interested to hear how the underground system is.
dont know how old u are - but if you like a night out , try the bedsupperclub or ask the concierge what is the coolest nightclub for thais. not westerners and you will def have a great time. - i have the best nights out in some amazing nightclubs in bangkok with no westerners.
and remeber this word - PAANG or PAAN G MAK MAK (to expensive)
if you can learn a few phrases you will go far..
this is still my fav place to go ..
on the cash tip, make sure you arrive with some $$ in case the cash points arent on or whatever, whenever i travel in asia i usually have $100 in my suitcase in rsv and maybe $50 in my wallet. but cashpoints are avail everywhere and the rates i find are better
but make sure you use the desk - its outside.. they will tell you the fixed price..
chang mai is much more sedate affair, but if you have no pickup try and get the hotel to come get you.. (should be free)
starwoods in bkk are pretty good on p-line think $50 for the S Grand search in biddingfortravel.com
also worth note in this part of the world for late deals is latestays.com and wotif.com
chatuchak market is over priced but worth a look - you will buy most things cheaper at the world trade center... also if you buy any "dodgy" knock offs here they actively search for them in NRT so if your bags are leaving the airport be aware..
i would hire a long tail boat and ask for a tour of the canals along the chao phraya.. good photo op's and maybe the floating market. be interested to hear how the underground system is.
dont know how old u are - but if you like a night out , try the bedsupperclub or ask the concierge what is the coolest nightclub for thais. not westerners and you will def have a great time. - i have the best nights out in some amazing nightclubs in bangkok with no westerners.
and remeber this word - PAANG or PAAN G MAK MAK (to expensive)
if you can learn a few phrases you will go far..
this is still my fav place to go ..
on the cash tip, make sure you arrive with some $$ in case the cash points arent on or whatever, whenever i travel in asia i usually have $100 in my suitcase in rsv and maybe $50 in my wallet. but cashpoints are avail everywhere and the rates i find are better
Last edited by ajinlondon; Oct 20, 2004 at 5:07 am
#34
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP
Anyway, once I'm at the hotel, it's usually much easier to pull out a map and get oriented to the city and the "pulse of life." I just hate landing at airports in foreign cultures for the first time. Any tips on that in BKK and SIN (particularly at night)?
BKK is mildly more challenging, but only mildly -- just find the taxi box referenced in a previous post (signposted with "Public Taxi"), the trip to anywhere in Bangkok shouldn't cost you more than 300 baht total. Just note that you need to pay tolls (30-70 baht) and an airport surcharge (50) which are not shown on the meter. For an even easier experience, if at twice the price, go to any of the limousine stands right after Customs and you can get everything arranged for 600 baht or so. But don't expect a Rolls-Royce
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP
I just hate landing at airports in foreign cultures for the first time. Any tips on that in BKK and SIN (particularly at night)? In most places, I've found it best to use my ATM card to get local currency. Is this what I should expect in Singapore, Chiang Mai and Bangkok as well? Or should I carry a wad of cash to change at a stall somewhere?
BKK is a little dicier but no less civilized. Make sure you ignore all the touts and head straight to the taxi line OUTside. Exit the Arrivals Hall, turn left and walk till you see the exit on the right. Leave the terminal and you'll see a taxi booth to your right. That's the official taxi line and you won't get hassled here. You'll also pay half the rate compared to the touts. Also, you may want to convert some dollars into baht at the baggage claim area (before going to the Arrivals Hall!) if you don't have any for the taxi. There is an automated machine there that does that. But don't change too much at the machine (all you need is about $15 worth of baht, probably less), the rate is not that great.
Getting local currency from ATM machines is best (for convenience and for exchange rates). You'll find ATMs everywhere in Singapore and Thailand and almost all of them take Cirrus, Plus, etc. In addition, credit cards are also widely accepted.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP
FINALLY! We've booked our flights to Asia for the end of November. Here's our planned itinerary so far -- would love your comments:
It sounds like in Singapore we should hit up the hawker stalls and some of the shops, but other than that, not much to see -- right? Then in Chiang Mai our tourist noses should lead us to temples and the Night Market. In Bangkok, more of the same?
Let me know what you think. I'm going to pick up some guidebooks for the region as well. Any good book recommendations to read on the plane on the way over (e.g. Traveler Tales, etc.)? Of course, we'll be documenting our trip on my travelblog, www.nakedsky.org.
- Flying into SIN since the airfare was cheaper, arrive late at night
- Spend the night with friends who live in Jahor Baru and the next full day exploring the city of Singapore.
- Day 3, head up to Chiang Mai to see other friends and celebrate Thanksgiving with them.
- Spend a couple days in Chiang Mai exploring the city and its culture (and getting cheap knock-offs!)
- After a few days in Chiang Mai, head down to Bangkok for 2-3 days for suits/shirts and other siteseeing
- We'll probably stay at one of the Starwood hotels in BKK (use points).
- Then cheap AirAsia flight back to SIN the night before our flight back to the U.S.
- 5-hour stopover in NRT -- jump out and explore Narita City
- Continue on to Honolulu where we have a 12-hour layover -- explore beaches, museums and volcano -- before heading home.
It sounds like in Singapore we should hit up the hawker stalls and some of the shops, but other than that, not much to see -- right? Then in Chiang Mai our tourist noses should lead us to temples and the Night Market. In Bangkok, more of the same?
Let me know what you think. I'm going to pick up some guidebooks for the region as well. Any good book recommendations to read on the plane on the way over (e.g. Traveler Tales, etc.)? Of course, we'll be documenting our trip on my travelblog, www.nakedsky.org.
But, whatever you choose you'll have a great time. Enjoy!
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You are flying into and out of SIN. I would hazard a guess that you have already bought your tickets. It probably would have been cheaper to do a SIN BKK open jaw when you factor in the Air Asia costs. My first trip to Asia I did the opposite, flew into Bangkok and out of Singapore.
Anyway enjoy.
Greetings from an internet access point in Lao PDR (Luang Prabang)
Anyway enjoy.
Greetings from an internet access point in Lao PDR (Luang Prabang)
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Originally Posted by opushomes
It probably would have been cheaper to do a SIN BKK open jaw when you factor in the Air Asia costs. My first trip to Asia I did the opposite, flew into Bangkok and out of Singapore.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP
Yeah, I tried for that. Unfortunately, even with the AirAsia tickets factored in, it was still about $200 more expensive to do an open jaw. Flying roundtrip in and out of Bangkok was even more.
Then again, you also get more miles going to SIN than BKK. That's reason enough for me to go to SIN instead
Originally Posted by opushomes
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I am green with envy How're your accommodations? Any nice resorts?
The Settha Palace hotel is a great hotel, the staff are excellent and eager to please. I had a feeling of being looked after (which I had not experienced in a long while).
With only 28 rooms , you can't go wrong if you want a quiet place to stay.
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Bag storage
I need to get some work done on the plane, and as a result will have my laptop with me. I'd rather not cart it around Singapore/Thailand -- partly so it doesn't get stolen, partly because I don't need the extra weight.
Is there anywhere extremely safe to leave it in the SIN airport?
Is there anywhere extremely safe to leave it in the SIN airport?
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At Singapore airport it's probably extremely safe to leave it anywhere at all! But the official facility is described here:
http://www.changiairport.com.sg/chan...=1098751992713
http://www.changiairport.com.sg/chan...=1098751992713
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Don't forget that taxis in SIN charge 50% more over the meter after midnight. You do not tip the driver in SIN. You can expect that 10 cents in change back.
In BKK, there are ATMs in the arrival areas (Terminal 1 or 2) after you exit customs. You normally round up to the nearest 5 or 10 baht when paying the taxi driver.
In BKK, there are ATMs in the arrival areas (Terminal 1 or 2) after you exit customs. You normally round up to the nearest 5 or 10 baht when paying the taxi driver.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyP
[*]Spend the night with friends who live in Jahor Baru and the next full day exploring the city of Singapore.
It sounds like in Singapore we should hit up the hawker stalls and some of the shops, but other than that, not much to see -- right?