Mendoza (MDZ) - the ultimate Q&A thread
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Mendoza (MDZ) - the ultimate Q&A thread
OK Folks.... in the spirit of the sister thread that started a couple of years ago on Buenos Aires, Ive decided to open one about Mendoza, mother region of all wines from Argentina. (please note, Argentina makes wine in several other regions outside Mendoza, alas, it remains the most important one).
Please feel free to post away with your questions right here, I will do my best to share what information I have and my experiences.
For proper disclosure, while I have no affiliation with all the places I will discuss here that offer different kinds of services in Mendoza, I am a member of the wine trade in Buenos Aires and am therefore a frequent patron of most of the places I comment on.
With regards from Buenos Aires,
Alejandro (Gaucho100K)
Please feel free to post away with your questions right here, I will do my best to share what information I have and my experiences.
For proper disclosure, while I have no affiliation with all the places I will discuss here that offer different kinds of services in Mendoza, I am a member of the wine trade in Buenos Aires and am therefore a frequent patron of most of the places I comment on.
With regards from Buenos Aires,
Alejandro (Gaucho100K)
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Thanks for the great opportunity!
Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Please feel free to post away with your questions right here, I will do my best to share what information I have and my experiences.
I'm not sure what distinctions there are between the Chilean wine scene and the Mendoza, Argentinian one, but any suggestions that help highlight those distinctions would be great, too!
Thanks, Gaucho100K -- we're actually headed to EZE from Mendoza, and will take advantage of some of your great expertise from the EZE thread while there, too!
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Depending on which specific subregion you visit, Mendoza is spread out over larger portions of territory. Signage in Mendoza is still rudimentary, thingsare generally more organized in Chile. If you mean styles of wines, then I would say that Chile has a clear advantage when it comes to still white wines, while in the red wine department - Argentina has considerably more depth in quality wines.
Some restaurants:
1884 Francis Malmmann
Bistro at the Park Hyatt
El Palenque (local, good homemade style food)
La Bourgogne at Vistalba Carlos Pulenta
Postales del Plata (Chacras de Coria)
Wineries to visit (please note some places require advance booking):
La Rural Rutini - Museo del Vino
Chandon Argentina
Familia Zuccardi
Bodegas Lopez
Catena Zapata
Some restaurants:
1884 Francis Malmmann
Bistro at the Park Hyatt
El Palenque (local, good homemade style food)
La Bourgogne at Vistalba Carlos Pulenta
Postales del Plata (Chacras de Coria)
Wineries to visit (please note some places require advance booking):
La Rural Rutini - Museo del Vino
Chandon Argentina
Familia Zuccardi
Bodegas Lopez
Catena Zapata
Last edited by Gaucho100K; May 23, 2006 at 6:24 pm
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Some other observations
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We went to Mendoza for the Vendimia at the beginning of March. Here are a couple of observations.
The Park Hyatt is a good location. It's right across the street from Plaza Independencia. Just up the street on the way to San Martin Park on Avenue Sarmiento you will find a number of little bistros and restaurants (includeing Azafran which my wife really liked) that were pretty good. There is a really good Helado (Ice Cream) store on the corner of Belgrado and Avenue Sarmiento which we really liked. We ate at 1884 Francis Mallman twice in our four day visit. My wife loved their pumpkin ravioli (had it both times) and I had a steak once and a salted chicken which was very good.
We took a tour for visiting the wineries which was really interesting and fun. I really enjoyed Alta Vista winery and we had lunch at Ruca Malen. At Ruca Malen winery you do the wine tasting with lunch (lunch was very good--It included Sweet corn tortelette, beef tenderloin, and cinnamon and cheese mouse for dessert).
We went during the Vendimia and it was fabulous. So much was going on during our stay that we are talking about going back next year again.
Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Depending on which specific subregion you visit, Mendoza is spread out over larger portions of territory. Signage in Mendoza is still rudimentary, thingsare generally more organized in Chile. If you mean styles of wines, then I would say that Chile has a clear advantage when it comes to still white wines, while in the red wine department - Argentina has considerably more depth in quality wines.
Some restaurants:
1884 Francis Malmmann
Bistro at the Park Hyatt
El Palenque (local, good homemade style food)
La Bourgogne at Vistalba Carlos Pulenta
Postales del Plata (Chacras de Coria)
Wineries to visit (please note some places require advance booking):
La Rural Rutini - Museo del Vino
Chandon Argentina
Familia Zuccardi
Bodegas Lopez
Catena Zapata
Some restaurants:
1884 Francis Malmmann
Bistro at the Park Hyatt
El Palenque (local, good homemade style food)
La Bourgogne at Vistalba Carlos Pulenta
Postales del Plata (Chacras de Coria)
Wineries to visit (please note some places require advance booking):
La Rural Rutini - Museo del Vino
Chandon Argentina
Familia Zuccardi
Bodegas Lopez
Catena Zapata
We went to Mendoza for the Vendimia at the beginning of March. Here are a couple of observations.
The Park Hyatt is a good location. It's right across the street from Plaza Independencia. Just up the street on the way to San Martin Park on Avenue Sarmiento you will find a number of little bistros and restaurants (includeing Azafran which my wife really liked) that were pretty good. There is a really good Helado (Ice Cream) store on the corner of Belgrado and Avenue Sarmiento which we really liked. We ate at 1884 Francis Mallman twice in our four day visit. My wife loved their pumpkin ravioli (had it both times) and I had a steak once and a salted chicken which was very good.
We took a tour for visiting the wineries which was really interesting and fun. I really enjoyed Alta Vista winery and we had lunch at Ruca Malen. At Ruca Malen winery you do the wine tasting with lunch (lunch was very good--It included Sweet corn tortelette, beef tenderloin, and cinnamon and cheese mouse for dessert).
We went during the Vendimia and it was fabulous. So much was going on during our stay that we are talking about going back next year again.
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The Hyatt is indeed a fine hotel, although in the end its just another Hyatt. If one is open to explore new types of experiences, I would strongly suggest trying alternative lodging in a somewhat less than urban setting. I suggest looking into the following places:
Postales del Plata - http://www.postalesdelplata.com
Cavas Wine Lodge - http://www.cavaswinelodge.com/
Lares de Chacras - http://www.laresdechacras.com/
For the budget minded, some options to consider are:
Hotel Aconcagua - http://www.hotelaconcagua.com/english
NH Cordillera - http://www.nhhotelesdirectorio.com
Postales del Plata - http://www.postalesdelplata.com
Cavas Wine Lodge - http://www.cavaswinelodge.com/
Lares de Chacras - http://www.laresdechacras.com/
For the budget minded, some options to consider are:
Hotel Aconcagua - http://www.hotelaconcagua.com/english
NH Cordillera - http://www.nhhotelesdirectorio.com
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transportation in Mendoza
Many folks ask me about renting a car in Mendoza. This is of course possible, but there are a number of drawbacks.
First, rental costs in Argentina are high when compared to other countries. Signage in Mendoza is rather ackward, and distances from winery to winery is sometimes important. Dont think Napa where everything is close and signage is perfect... Mendoza is big, there is a lot of new development and even the locals arent the best for directions, things are changing very quickly. Plus, if you really want to enjoy your wines, its a bad idea to get behind the wheel.
Renting a car with a driver or a van if you are in a small group is the best way to go. I will dig up a few contacts and post more information later.
First, rental costs in Argentina are high when compared to other countries. Signage in Mendoza is rather ackward, and distances from winery to winery is sometimes important. Dont think Napa where everything is close and signage is perfect... Mendoza is big, there is a lot of new development and even the locals arent the best for directions, things are changing very quickly. Plus, if you really want to enjoy your wines, its a bad idea to get behind the wheel.
Renting a car with a driver or a van if you are in a small group is the best way to go. I will dig up a few contacts and post more information later.
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Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
What airlines fly between Mendoza and Bariloche? Is the distance sufficiently far that flying is the most sensible way to travel?
Long distance bus is also an option, although Ive never traveled that route and dont have the details.
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Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
What airlines fly between Mendoza and Bariloche? Is the distance sufficiently far that flying is the most sensible way to travel?
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Thanks for confirming my guess. Domestic air travel in Argentina does have its issues, things have gotten slightly better as of late so there should be no major delays.
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Originally Posted by nor4
The Aerolineas web site lists only flights via AEP. About 4 hours flying and waits of 1+(+++) hours at AEP.
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Does the airpass help you with the visa issue...? I guess those costs would be incurred regradless, or?
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Does the airpass help you with the visa issue...? I guess those costs would be incurred regradless, or?
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Gaucho;
Thank you for the offer.
I was in Baires for 5 days in March and loved it.
I lived there for some time during my childhood (many many years ago) and know I remember why my family LOVED Argentina.
I am going for 2 weeks in September and rented an apt.
Just planning to eat good food, drink a lot of Limoncello, ice cream and coffee.
I would like to go "out of town" for 2 nights.
Bariloche is expensive. I am quoted 1700-2500 pesos per person.
I was looking for something much cheaper.
how about Mendoza? I love wine.
by the way, I used to live in Catamarca. Is that worth a trip?
thank you very much for your help
Gracias
Thank you for the offer.
I was in Baires for 5 days in March and loved it.
I lived there for some time during my childhood (many many years ago) and know I remember why my family LOVED Argentina.
I am going for 2 weeks in September and rented an apt.
Just planning to eat good food, drink a lot of Limoncello, ice cream and coffee.
I would like to go "out of town" for 2 nights.
Bariloche is expensive. I am quoted 1700-2500 pesos per person.
I was looking for something much cheaper.
how about Mendoza? I love wine.
by the way, I used to live in Catamarca. Is that worth a trip?
thank you very much for your help
Gracias