Australia, New Zealand & the South Pacific - SYD Retail renovations Complete after over a Year

Was researching another question came across changes to the SYD airport web site.

New map: SYD T1 Departures (http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL/IgnitionSuite/uploads/docs/T1%20International%20Departures_Map_17-09-09.pdf)

Yeah, I saw that and hedged my bets about completion.

Here's the old map:

http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL/IgnitionSuite/uploads/docs/R185934_SACL_T1%20DirectoryBrochure%2001JUL09.pdf

Also note the caption on today's map re the pier C "Customs and security":Note: This entry closes 23/09/09
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The implication is the renovations are nearly completed.

It's gunna be a Bl**dy long walk from Customs and Security for those passengers departing from pier C.

That's one long of a walk from Air New Zealands checkin (Zone J) to say gate 60.

Are Air NZ going to move zones?

The inter pier walk away looked finish but not open last Wednesday.

How much is QF paying SYD to do this? :p

How much is QF paying SYD to do this? :p

I would say more than a A380 is worth. It seems so stupid to close pier C customs, NZ/EK/SQ all use the last 3 check-in islands.

Seems to be just how the train station is at the Qantas end, yet the line runs past the terminal.

Or how Jetconnect 733s get to use the main runway while NZ 767s have to use the short runway.

I vote for NZ to take over the Domestic Express Terminal atleast it would be close to the correct runway:p

Great way for *A passengers to lose weight, including myself for NZ SYD-WLG during Xmas. Then VS SYD-HKG in Jan.

AS for my better half, she would be complaining already by the time we get to customs from Checkin J.

I would say more than a A380 is worth. It seems so stupid to close pier C customs, NZ/EK/SQ all use the last 3 check-in islands.

Seems to be just how the train station is at the Qantas end, yet the line runs past the terminal.

Exactly. I didn't think I'd get to see the day when an airport comes up with a more brain-dead passenger-unfriendly layout than AKL, but SYD has indeed done so.

The Air NZ pax arriving at airport by train has to walk the complete length of check in area to reach check in desks. Once check in complete, walk back almost the complete length to get to immigration. Long queues there & at security. Then through the middle of a shop and half-way out the pier before being able to double back, past several more shops, along a corridor, through the middle of another shop, past some more shops to finally reach the gate/lounge. By this time they'll feel like they've just about walked to NZ having traversed most of the terminal not once but 3 times.

... By this time they'll feel like they've just about walked to NZ having traversed most of the terminal not once but 3 times.I posted this on AFF:

It seems the difference will be negligible. I'd say you'd just go through B, then straight on to the travelators which take you right to where C was before. ...Are you kidding! :confused:

This will add around 400 metres to the path required for someone using the J check-in simply to get the the base of the C pier. It's ~6 times the distance merely to get to the travelators.

Look at the following image. Check-in is at J for a pier C flight. The base of pier C is marked with the Blue Cross.

The current/old direct path is in RED, the new direct path is in BLACK:
http://gallery.flyertalk.com/gallery/albums/General-Miscellaneous/newSYD.sized.jpg

Here a link to the original .Pdf

http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL/IgnitionSuite/uploads/docs/T1%20International%20Departures_Map_17-09-09.pdf

Exactly. I didn't think I'd get to see the day when an airport comes up with a more brain-dead passenger-unfriendly layout than AKL, but SYD has indeed done so.

The Air NZ pax arriving at airport by train has to walk the complete length of check in area to reach check in desks. Once check in complete, walk back almost the complete length to get to immigration. Long queues there & at security. Then through the middle of a shop and half-way out the pier before being able to double back, past several more shops, along a corridor, through the middle of another shop, past some more shops to finally reach the gate/lounge. By this time they'll feel like they've just about walked to NZ having traversed most of the terminal not once but 3 times.

Meh. QF/SYD/the government did it before to kill of what remained of AN.

AKL is ridiculous re: gates 15 and 16. You have to feel just a bit for EK. Both SYD and AKL are also pretty dumb in that the traversing from start of airside to the far pier are through a lifeless corridor; SYD has travelators but AKL doesn't. Still, who wants to walk all that way through a grey-white square pipe?

Also, at least in SYD once you get to pier C, there's stuff there to be had. Like airline lounges. And a couple of shops (apart from the duty free shop). And a bit of character inside the terminal - more than can be said about piers A/B. In AKL the far pier has absolutely nothing except for nice wood finishing.


And if SYD and AKL weren't enough, some people might take you to the task on FRA.


My main gripes with SYD are:
Soul-less, character deprived airport. OK, except for BNE, WLG and maybe ZQN, every AU/NZ international airport lacks international-standard character and/or identity. (Well, if identity can include anything, I guess you can go by SYD's horrendous customs queues... :rolleyes:)
The curfew. Idiotic idea for AU's premier gateway, but cry babies need their nap time...

AKL does have travelators on B pier, although they only cover a modest portion of the walk. While the distance is far at least you aren't doubling back and back again on yourself - there is a long straight-line distance between EK check in and the B pier gates.

SYD doesn't have that excuse.
FRA has airtrain & the tunnel. It is big and confusing yes, but there aren't long distances to walk.

AKL does have travelators on B pier, although they only cover a modest portion of the walk. While the distance is far at least you aren't doubling back and back again on yourself - there is a long straight-line distance between EK check in and the B pier gates.

SYD doesn't have that excuse.
FRA has airtrain & the tunnel. It is big and confusing yes, but there aren't long distances to walk.

Fair enough.

Not that I was defending SYD.

I forgot to add another dot point against SYD: exorbitant fees.

The walk from Zone J to pier C is going to add alot more than 400meters to the walk.

My rough guess from Zone J to Gate 60 is going to be 2km.

Advice on AFF that the B0 duty free zero is open plan.

This can be walked though, so a short cut could come out near B11, saving approx 100 metres. :rolleyes:

http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/SACL/IgnitionSuite/uploads/docs/T1%20International%20Departures_Map_17-09-09.pdf

Maybe they need to implement those transit trains in HKG for those going to Pier C ..... Nah, Macquarie will then charge $20AUD per ride, or just charge extra $20 per air ticket.

Maybe they need to implement those transit trains in HKG for those going to Pier C ..... Nah, Macquarie will then charge $20AUD per ride, or just charge extra $20 per air ticket.

It already costs $15 from Central to the Airport

It already costs $15 from Central to the Airport

I mean train from customs to Pier C ..... like the ones inside HKG airport. Hehe ;)

I mean train from customs to Pier C ..... like the ones inside HKG airport. Hehe ;)

Yes I know you meant that short of train. What i was getting at is, if you take the train to the airport its gonna cost $15 plus what ever fee SYD Airport would charge you for useing the airside train:)

Looking forward to having to walk all of this with Micro DUF in December. Maybe this will improve sleeping on the plane?

Any idea of if the corridor facing onto the tarmac will have windows or not?

My god, this will be like departing from T1 at LHR on an NZ flight and having to walk kilometres to get to Gate 54.

Last time I used the corridor (before it was closed) it did have windows. They let in light but views were terrible due to the sound baffles

Any idea of if the corridor facing onto the tarmac will have windows or not?


Yes - for what i saw the other day it does down towards the Pier C end.

The corridor has large glass panes that look outside & look inside at the landside food court.

Hi,
I posted this question on another forum but was wondering if some members would be able to assist us all here.
The Sydney Airport Terminal 1 Renovations now seem to be progressing well but the official website seems a bit slow in updating things such as:

-Terminal 1 maps showing newly opened retail outlets.
-Actual photos showing the progress of the work.

I wonder if members would be able to post pics here of the terminal shwowing some of these things to other members.
I'm not travelling until December 19th and will update somethings soon after I arrive in North America.

Being a 'non-lounger', I'm keen to find out the new food options post-security.

I look forward to your contributions.

Hi,
I posted this question on another forum but was wondering if some members would be able to assist us all here.
The Sydney Airport Terminal 1 Renovations now seem to be progressing well but the official website seems a bit slow in updating things such as:

-Terminal 1 maps showing newly opened retail outlets.
-Actual photos showing the progress of the work.

I wonder if members would be able to post pics here of the terminal shwowing some of these things to other members.
I'm not travelling until December 19th and will update somethings soon after I arrive in North America.

Being a 'non-lounger', I'm keen to find out the new food options post-security.

I look forward to your contributions.Having just passed through T1 at SYD a couple days ago, I can tell you there are a number of reasonable places to eat past security. It seemed like a pretty nice terminal to me. Regarding lounges, too bad Air New Zealand doesn't offer day passes. You'd get hooked very quickly, even if it ran $50.

Having just passed through T1 at SYD a couple days ago, I can tell you there are a number of reasonable places to eat past security. It seemed like a pretty nice terminal to me. Regarding lounges, too bad Air New Zealand doesn't offer day passes. You'd get hooked very quickly, even if it ran $50.

Including Australias first airside McDonalds. :rolleyes:

There is not even a Priority Pass Option for SYD T1.