Air New Zealand Air Points - Globalplus and status points

It would appear that from the first of September that globalplus card holders can earn status points.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/card_partners/globalplus_platinum_visa.htm

On first glance it appears to be an ill-conceived push for small businesses to use global plus cards. Effectively status requirements are halved for those who can put through a reasonable volume on global plus card.

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$350/yr for Koru is good though.

oh goodish for me, I just changed to GP Platinum even though it earns at a lower rate than GP Gold Amex just to get the non-expiry of points option (my travel is somewhat restricted to domestic day trips for the foreseeable future due to an ill partner).

The option of waiving the Koru membership joining fee is not a new benefit.

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You still need to earn half the SC by flying. For me the change as good as i shoud creep in to NZ*G.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/status_points/default.htm

You still need to earn half the SC by flying. For me the change as good as i shoud creep in to NZ*G.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/status_points/default.htm

You can pick up $239rt AKL-SYD-AKL on GAS, which gets you 60status points.

personally i think it's a bit ridiculous / unfair to earn status points without flying. (even you are required to earn half of the status points by actually flying to move up to the next tier):td:

status points should only be earned by flying not by spending!! i guess those people probably dont fly enough to become a gold / gold elite.

personally i think it's a bit ridiculous / unfair to earn status points without flying. (even you are required to earn half of the status points by actually flying to move up to the next tier):td:

status points should only be earned by flying not by spending!! i guess those people probably dont fly enough to become a gold / gold elite.

Well in theory they are using a Air NZ product that is run though the BNZ. But its a little unfiar, e.g if I book a cheap domestic flight then dont go, I dont get my status points.

Well in theory they are using a Air NZ product that is run though the BNZ. But its a little unfiar, e.g if I book a cheap domestic flight then dont go, I dont get my status points.

ya..i think we should be able to get status points even we don't turn up for the flight(s) and did not want refund if any.

by the way the BNZ globalplus Platinum card do sound very attractive especially there are heaps of benfits included, but i think i will stick with my ASB platinum for now as im not an BNZ customer.;)

I don't think that's all that unfair, at $250 a point it's really going to be more of a small supplement for existing frequent flyers than anything.

Here's a question for people: If you could trade in all your airbucks for status points, would you?

Re-reading a bit more closely, someone can retain their status with airpoints without stepping foot on an a/c. (The requirement for half status points to be from flying applies to going up a tier.)

Thus someone who is NZ*G now could requalify with $202,500 in global plus credit card spend + 0 flights.

And you would earn 2250 Airpoints Dollars at the same time....
For the same spend on a GP Amex Gold you would earn 3033 Airpoints Dollars, no status points though.

And you would earn 2250 Airpoints Dollars at the same time....
For the same spend on a GP Amex Gold you would earn 3033 Airpoints Dollars, no status points though.

Actually Gold cards earn status points as well. No other cards can beat Amex Gold.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/card_partners/globalplus_gold_amex.htm

bother, I thought I was being smart switching from Gold to Platinum with my expenditure and flying patterns I am fiscally neutral between these cards - I did go for Platinum to retain expiring A$.

I wonder if this "new benefit" has anything to do with credit card useage dropping http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10596180 - with surcharges likely to come credit card use is going to drop further I reckon. Credit cards are a big earner for banks - they need us to keep spending and preferably not pay them off every month (as I do).

A bit of a non issue really. Yes, lots of CC expenditure required - those that retain Gold Elite status with this without actually flying would be few and far between.

Another point - unless one is flying, status is worth very little.

Hi, do all the global plus cards now qualify for status points? all new to me, this is the first that I heard about it, thanks:confused:

seems to be limited to Gold Visa/Mastercard/Amex and Platinum Visa

OT: I have noticed recently that Global Plus in general haven't had any promotions for about two years. I joined two years ago with the 50 AP$ sign up bonus and soon after that they have 10,000 AP$ and 50,000 AP$ giveaways but nothing since then.

Thanks for the info:) can any one also advise any way to gain more status points other than flying as I am due to lose silver in December, although I do have akl=hk return booked BP in Oct ?

Thanks for the info:) can any one also advise any way to gain more status points other than flying as I am due to loose silver in December, although I do have akl=hk return booked BP in Oct ?

No other way apart from flying and earning them on the new GlobalPlus scheme. Your flight in October will earn you 420 status points and you only require 405 status points to requalify for silver, so you should be fine.

Thanks for the info, glad to know that I will retain silver! Great forum:cool:

And you would earn 2250 Airpoints Dollars at the same time....
For the same spend on a GP Amex Gold you would earn 3033 Airpoints Dollars, no status points though.

Errm....

GP Amex Gold 3033
GP Platinum Visa 2250 PLUS 1620 through FlyBuys = 3870 AP$

[Flybuys calculated at $20 spend = 1 FB 300 FBs = 48 AP$. Bonus points extra]

Sorry - I am wrong - you have choose between earning FB or AP$

Errm....

GP Amex Gold 3033
GP Platinum Visa 2250 PLUS 1620 through FlyBuys = 3870 AP$

[Flybuys calculated at $20 spend = 1 FB 300 FBs = 48 AP$. Bonus points extra]

I was under the impression that you could only earn AP$ or Fly Buy's points and not both?

I was under the impression that you could only earn AP$ or Fly Buy's points and not both?

It appears that you are correct. @#$%^%!

It appears that you are correct. @#$%^%!

At participating Flybuys merchants, you CAN earn Airpoints by using a GlobalPlus card as well as Flybuys points by presenting a Flybuys card which you can later convert to Airpoints again.

At participating Flybuys merchants, you CAN earn Airpoints by using a GlobalPlus card as well as Flybuys points by presenting a Flybuys card which you can later convert to Airpoints again.

Flybuys points convert only to Airpoints not Status.

Actually Gold cards earn status points as well. No other cards can beat Amex Gold.

Be good to see status points earnings on Australian credit cards linked to Airpoints, such as Westpac and Amex. This would be an added bonus.

I just received my latest GlobalPlus statement. I earned Airpoints as usuall but I didn't earn any status points. Has anyone had different experience?

You are looking a month too early I reckon: you will not earn status points until the next full account cycle atfter 1/9/09.

From: http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/card_partners/globalplus_platinum_visa.htm

(1) Status Points are calculated from you first full statement cycle after 01 September 2009 e.g. if your statement cycle is monthly from 05 Sept to 04 Oct, Status Points that appear in your October Statement will have been calculated from 05 September. If your statement cycle is 05 August to 04 September 2009, Status Points will only be calculated after 04 September.

sorry, posted a question that had been answered so taking it down :)

new arrangments for credit cards (aka as surcharge for use) is creeping closer.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/2932246/ComCom-reaches-agreement-with-institutions-on-credit-cards

What will the impact be for those who use credit cards to "top-up" A$?

From my perspective I am not sure I will earn enough A$ to offset the cost of the surcharges.

I guess the negative effect of this surcharge may be one reason status points are now earned on credit card spent (on certain GlobalPlus cards)

This is absolutely ridiculous. The idea for the merchants to accept credit cards was for the consumers to use tomorrow's money today for sales which would have otherwise been lost. The credit card use environment is bad enough in Australia and now it looks like New Zealand will follow suit.

This is absolutely ridiculous. The idea for the merchants to accept credit cards was for the consumers to use tomorrow's money today for sales which would have otherwise been lost. The credit card use environment is bad enough in Australia and now it looks like New Zealand will follow suit.

i totally agree with you. absolutely ridiculous. on top of the credit card account fees (im happy with my $170 p.a account fee as i get heaps 'extra' service out of it). now they wanna charge us more extra fees i think they are out of their mind.:mad::td:

We'll have to watch what happens here. I'd like to think that NZers will kick up one hell of a stink it we start to get charged for usage. There is a lot of competition at present so we'll see what happens. Let's all decide to resist any moves to impose charges for use!

we can try, however the lesson from Australia (and they are a much more militant mob than us) is that stores will impose a fee, consumers wont object, and the credit card companies wont lose out,

there result being that earning frequent flyer miles by credit card spend will increase and become even less worthwhile

did anyone relise this?? '' To be eligible for a tier status change from Gold to Gold Elite, 900 Status Points need to come from taking Air New Zealand Flights. To maintain your current Gold Elite tier status, 810 Status Points need to come from taking Air New Zealand Flights.''

looks like GE doesnt come that easy with globalplus cards.:p

We'll have to watch what happens here. I'd like to think that NZers will kick up one hell of a stink it we start to get charged for usage. There is a lot of competition at present so we'll see what happens. Let's all decide to resist any moves to impose charges for use!

I hear the big "win" for consumers is that the savings businesses realise from this, will be passed on to consumers. What's the betting that this move will simply result in a fee being slapped on credit card customers and absolutely no reduction for EFTPOS/Cash etc. customers?

A hotel in central Brisbane recently charged me 1.5% on a $3000 hotel bill (for myself and a staff member) because I wanted to use a credit card. Knowing what fees are charged by the banks/credit card companies, I think this simply amounts to profiteering by the hotel.

You are looking a month too early I reckon: you will not earn status points until the next full account cycle (GlobalPlus Platinum) atfter 1/9/09.

From: http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/card_partners/globalplus_platinum_visa.htm

(1) Status Points are calculated from you first full statement cycle after 01 September 2009 e.g. if your statement cycle is monthly from 05 Sept to 04 Oct, Status Points that appear in your October Statement will have been calculated from 05 September. If your statement cycle is 05 August to 04 September 2009, Status Points will only be calculated after 04 September.

My first full statement cycle (GlobalPlus Platinum) after 1/9/09 is now complete:

I earned A$97.16 and 34.98 status points - amount of spend not known at this stage - I am guessing around $8744.

My first full statement cycle (GlobalPlus Platinum) after 1/9/09 is now complete:

I earned A$97.16 and 34.98 status points - amount of spend not known at this stage.
Wow I may actually change cards to help with the status points.
Question if there a linked cards eg. Me & Mrs Blackcloud does anyone know how the status points are allocated?

So i've got 16 status points for last month and like 40 something airpoints.
The status points will go to the nominated earner ie the same person who gets the airpoints on the joint cards.

Wow I may actually change cards to help with the status points.
Question if there a linked cards eg. Me & Mrs Blackcloud does anyone know how the status points are allocated?

Do you mean a joint account? If so, points go to one cardholder only - I think the primary cardholder.

Yes. The airpoints and status points go the card holder who has there airpoints number embossed on the card. The second card holder shouldn't have any airpoints number listed on it.

With a joint Global Gold CC we were told (by BNZ themselves) you are able to change the earner of airpoints to the other card holder - So assuming we were told correctly I guess you could change to maximise status points and airpoints. Not sure if there are any minimum time periods before you could change back or limits to the number of changes you can make.

Yeap you can change it, if the cards are jointly held. Not sure if you can nominate the second card holder to earn the points if they are only an additional card holder. Not sure about the time frame i dont think there is one.

OT: Does anyone know if it would be possible to have both a GP Gold Amex and a GP Platinum Visa...to use the Amex for most purchases and the Visa where the Amex is not accepted or extra fees are applicable?

I cant see any problems with that, however the Platinum card does have very high fees so depending on how much you plan to charge it might not be worth it.

if you spend more than 30,000 half yearly on globalplus platinum visa, you get 100% rebate. but you can't on Amex gold.

i dont see why not to carry two cards if bnz is willing to approve.

Sorry if this has been pointed out somewhere else. Although it's not GlobalPlus, still status points on a credit card.

Noticed in this months KiaOra KiwiBank has a full page advert (page 35) for it's new Go Fly credit card, which earns Airpoints directly.
Talks about all the benefits, blah blah - three tiers, first time there'll be a KiwiBank Platinum Credit Card, advance on points, and...

"Status Points earning", though on Platinum only.
Seems to loosen the total incentive towards GlobalPlus perhaps once you compare the stats, perhaps?

I have read all the posts on this string and looked at the Air NZ website, but still confused as to how this affects (re)qualification for Gold Elite.

The numbers don't seem to add up. You can earn half the points required on the credit card, so for retaining GE if you need a total of 1350 points, in theory you can gain 50% of these from the card, so a spend of $168,750, BUT you still need I guess to earn 810 points on Air NZ flights? That means in fact only 1,350-810 or 540 points on the card would count, so actually about 40%.

Any status earned above the 540 are therefore "wasted" (not really of course as you still get airpoints $$).

Am I right in my maths here? Or is there some other mechanism for working this into GE?

Perhaps this is not really aimed so much at GE customers, as it makes sense that they are people who actually fly on the airline I suppose.

Thanks

Kiwibank Go Fly cards unveiled:

http://www.kiwibank.co.nz/personal-banking/credit-cards/gofly/index.asp

Not much difference from GlobalPlus other than the ability to share Airpoints with family or friends and lower annual fees. Not sure how BNZ is going to think about this having been the one and only for so many years. Care to venture a guess who the third direct earn card partner will be, anyone? I hope it will be ASB.

Interesting - Only earn Status points on Platinum card - Really don't want to switch to Kiwibank so hopefully another bank will do something also.

Kiwibank Go Fly cards unveiled:

http://www.kiwibank.co.nz/personal-banking/credit-cards/gofly/index.asp

Not much difference from GlobalPlus other than the ability to share Airpoints with family or friends and lower annual fees. Not sure how BNZ is going to think about this having been the one and only for so many years. Care to venture a guess who the third direct earn card partner will be, anyone? I hope it will be ASB.

Couple of differences I can see straight away with the Kiwibank card:


No Amex. So technically BNZ still has some higher earn rates.
Only platinum cards earn status points
Go Fly has special grabaseat deals on Thursday's for cardholders only
Go Fly cardholders get 2x lounge passes for every $15,000 spent
The ability to combine up to 4 separate accounts AP$ into one account


Fees don't seem too different.

Go Fly Thursday – access to exclusive grabaseat fares every Thursday

why not invite all the premium members to enjoy this sale?
there is an ad at ''home page'' shows go fly to oz for $99.

I have read all the posts on this string and looked at the Air NZ website, but still confused as to how this affects (re)qualification for Gold Elite.

The numbers don't seem to add up. You can earn half the points required on the credit card, so for retaining GE if you need a total of 1350 points, in theory you can gain 50% of these from the card, so a spend of $168,750, BUT you still need I guess to earn 810 points on Air NZ flights? That means in fact only 1,350-810 or 540 points on the card would count, so actually about 40%.

Any status earned above the 540 are therefore "wasted" (not really of course as you still get airpoints $$).

Am I right in my maths here? Or is there some other mechanism for working this into GE?

Perhaps this is not really aimed so much at GE customers, as it makes sense that they are people who actually fly on the airline I suppose.

Thanks

hey oranjemakker

you cant qualify or retain GE by using any credit cards. the only way is fly fly fly.
no mre calculation either for you.:D

Go Fly Thursday – access to exclusive grabaseat fares every Thursday

why not invite all the perineum members to enjoy this sale?
there is an ad at ''home page'' shows go fly to oz for $99.

Are they giving away 100 free trips to Bris also? im a little confused but i guess wait and see tomorrow?

Are they giving away 100 free trips to Bris also? im a little confused but i guess wait and see tomorrow?

i dont think they are free. just $99 promotion to/from Brisbane, but dont forget the pricey taxes ($170ish). and they probably will end up on the ''bad timing'' flights :p

a few days back, i managed to find some $99 + tax to oz (maybe just syd and mel) on air nz website. dont know they are still there or not.

Just out of interest, does anyone know which other bank is going to have cards soon in order for you to ear airpoints with Air NZ apart from KiwiBank? I'd rather use other bank not Kiwibank, not BNZ either.

I am in the same boat AKL/XIY - I think a number of us are waiting to see who else get's revealed as a partner.

why not invite all the perineum members to enjoy this sale?

You might want to check the meaning of the word "perineum"... I'm not sure it's what you meant to say... :eek:;):D

You might want to check the meaning of the word "perineum"... I'm not sure it's what you meant to say... :eek:;):D

Haha I saw the same mistake in another thread...another person also pointed out the meaning...along with the definition of a perineum ;):D:eek:

Haha I saw the same mistake in another thread...another person also pointed out the meaning...along with the definition of a perineum ;):D:eek:

sorry everyone, my spelling mistake ....:p just fixed it.

The Kiwibank card looks pretty good. As pointed out everything that the BNZ GlobalPlus cards do and some extras, apart from Amex.
Must have been a falling out between BNZ and Air NZ.
BNZ must have been really dumb to lose the exclusivity with Air NZ ;)
Think I will get the Kiwibank card although may hold off and see who the 3rd partner is.

Question - Why against having a Kiwibank card. The bank is really irrelevant, you are getting a credit facility and earnings rewards with Air NZ. The card itself is a MasterCard so acceptance won't be an issue.
Surprised it isn't a chip card, or doesn't have any other features like contactless. It could then double up as an Air NZ M Pass!!!

I don't like the fact that you have to go into a postshop to do your banking, huge queues etc, not enough cash machines around - that is why i do not want to be with Kiwibank. If a good card like this came out with ANZ/National i would definitely switch.

I'm also going to wait and see who the next partner is. If it is my main bank (Westpac) and the card has at least the same benefits as BNZ then I'll switch.

I am not against having the Kiwibank card per se. I hardly ever go into a BNZ branch for my current GP credit card...just pay the amount in full every month via internet banking. Only use a branch if I want to deposit cash straight into it.

P.S. Also managed to buy a CHC-BNE-CHC for $197 as a status run thanks to the Go Fly Grabaseat site. No mention there of needing to have the specific card as yet.

hey oranjemakker

you cant qualify or retain GE by using any credit cards. the only way is fly fly fly.
no mre calculation either for you.:D

Thanks zqsn5678

Actually, to try to clear my confusion, i just called Air NZ. Apparently it does count towards GE, but as part of the Star Alliance "bucket". it does not affect the Air NZ portion of the qualification requirements.

This means that in theory you could earn all the 600 non Air NZ Star Alliance points for GE qualification through the credit card. Then you still need 900 points on Air NZ!

Incidentally, I wonder if this will serve to somewhat devalue Gold and Silver status as presumably a lot more people will qualify now? By devalue I mean specifically fill up the lounges even more than they already are and perhaps fill up space plus even more.

I think this thursdays GAS Deals for Kiwibank are open to everyone, from next week they will be for Kiwibank CC holders only.

P.S. Also managed to buy a CHC-BNE-CHC for $197 as a status run thanks to the Go Fly Grabaseat site. No mention there of needing to have the specific card as yet.

NZ_Flyer how many seat did they release for international deals? thanks

NZ_Flyer how many seat did they release for international deals? thanks

Umm it may have been about 50 in total (25 each way) over a 10 day period. Not sure of the AKL originating ones as I was in a meeting when those were released. The fare was only $52 return with $145 in taxes.

Thanks zqsn5678
This means that in theory you could earn all the 600 non Air NZ Star Alliance points for GE qualification through the credit card. Then you still need 900 points on Air NZ!


oranjemakker you mean to qualify for GE (1500 qualify, 1350 to retain)? so to simplify, 900 points must be flying with air nz, the other 600 points can be earned in any ways (credit cards/stat alliance partners/air nz)
am i right?:D

I think this thursdays GAS Deals for Kiwibank are open to everyone, from next week they will be for Kiwibank CC holders only.

Yes that is how I read it. Throw out a taster to everyone and give them a week to get their new cards. Should have a good chance of getting some decent deals in the first 2-3 weeks before numbers start to jump into the product.

Re your earlier point. Agree standing in post shops at lunchtime could be a pain, but who pays their CC bill in the branch or a post shop these days :)

Incidentally, I wonder if this will serve to somewhat devalue Gold and Silver status as presumably a lot more people will qualify now? By devalue I mean specifically fill up the lounges even more than they already are and perhaps fill up space plus even more.

ewww.. dont forget the promotion last month where they were offering the free kour club. i guess its gonna be ''please queue'' whereever you go.:p

Yes that is how I read it. Throw out a taster to everyone and give them a week to get their new cards. Should have a good chance of getting some decent deals in the first 2-3 weeks before numbers start to jump into the product.

Re your earlier point. Agree standing in post shops at lunchtime could be a pain, but who pays their CC bill in the branch or a post shop these days :)

Probably the only time i go to the bank is to deposit cheques, and i can't stand going to the postshop in general to organise a courier because of the large queues - enough to put me off.

oranjemakker you mean to qualify for GE (1500 qualify, 1350 to retain)? so to simplify, 900 points must be flying with air nz, the other 600 points can be earned in any ways (credit cards/stat alliance partners/air nz)
am i right?:D

As i understand it from the phone call yes, he specifically explained that the credit card points go into the Star Alliance "bucket" (his terminology).

I will now be trying to make use of the credit card for some of our business expenses to get some of these status points (and Airbucks of course!).

I don't like the fact that you have to go into a postshop to do your banking, huge queues etc, not enough cash machines around - that is why i do not want to be with Kiwibank. If a good card like this came out with ANZ/National i would definitely switch.

Totally agreed with you Rebound! I don't like to do my bankings at the Postshop as they are always busy and staff are not really up to the banking standard I believe. My main bank is ASB and hope ASB is coming up with an Airpoints card soon or later. The Kiwibank Go card doesn't even have a chip! While I was in London last week, there are a few shops don't take non-chip cards, but thanks God I've got the ASB chip card!! :)