Las Vegas - Real experiences at the Palms Real World Suite?

I am planning a big party in Vegas for a special occasion, for about 7-8 people (mixed group, late 20s/early 30s). Would love to have a hotel suite that is special/unique and can fit all of us. While I'm not at the "money is no object" level, the budget can stretch pretty high given the right offering.

My first thought was the Real World Suite at the Palms, which supposedly can be booked by the public for about $10K/night (Friday/Saturday). I'm thinking that should fit about 8 people (especially if we include couches), and it will certainly be a unique experience.

Anyone ever stayed at the Real World suite, been inside, or knew someone who has? I've searched high and low for "real world" (pardon the pun) reviews of the actual suite, but to no avail. Would appreciate any pointers, as well as other recommendations.

I've seen other reviews of the other "fantasy" suites at Palms on FT, and they have not been good. Just trying to do some homework before dropping $20K on a hotel room!

As background: I'm a Vegas regular, but never stayed in any "famous" suites. Would normally just book 3-4 connecting rooms at the Venetian and called it a day, but tempted to get something more unique. Used to get comped at Caesars and Venetian, but my play has fallen to the point where I only get midweek offers, so I'm certainly not getting access to any whale suites.

It is the same as it was on TV. Very spacious - we had 100+ people in the room at once for our party. I also had some fun in the jacuzzi. It's a great suite and a unique experience. I definitely recommend it!

Alternative could be Four Seasons 180-Degree Strip-View Suite (http://www.fourseasons.com/lasvegas/guest_rooms_and_suites/180_degree_strip_view_suite.html). Of course less eye candy there compared to Palms ;).

The Palms Place Penthouse suites may work for your party as well -- large, private pool and terrace and views of the Strip.

For that kind of money, why not consider some of the larger suites at Caesars, like the Forum Tower Emperor's Suite -- at least your room and incidentals will give you reward and tier credits with Harrahs

Alternately, for that kind of money, you could get fantastic suites, with service to match, at Wynn, Encore, Bellagio, Mansion and SkyLofts at MGM Grand, and the Four Seasons.

Regardless, hope your party is a success and please do report back where you ultimately partied.

The Absolut Suite at Caesars may also fit your needs as well:

http://www.caesarspalace.com/casinos/caesars-palace/casino-misc/fantasy-suites-detail.html

* palms place penthouse would be better and cheaper IMHO, up to 2BR sleep 8

if $10K >
- mansion 3BR
- talk to palazzo/venetian about paiza, pool suites, etc

does absolut suite have pool?

will be interesting to see how aria skyvillas compare to encore apartments

If you need a refresh on the layout/accomodations, there are several YouTube walkthrough videos. For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeozR_AE50

This could be an excellent choice as it likely has enough sleeping space while still being awesome. A lot of what's been mentioned as alternatives would not work for you due to having only 1 bed. Other great accomodations that might fit all of you, like Encore's 3-br duplex apartment, are difficult to rent due to the focus on high rollers. I'm sure you guys would have a great time at the Palms.

Thanks for everyone's comments and suggestions!

I realize that for $10K, one could get multiple SkyLofts, or exclusive suites at the Mansion, with much better service. But...
- A lot of these suites may have lots of square footage, but it seems to me they mostly have only 1 or 2 king beds. Not useful for a large group. Real World seems somewhat unique in having a lot of what appear to be smaller (but more plentiful) beds. A good combination for a group that is mostly singles.
- We're a relatively young group, and I'm hoping for a pretty rowdy vibe. Butlers would not be useful. I think I would better enjoy the pampering of SkyLofts, Mansion, Four Seasons, etc. for my 40th or 50th birthday...
- There's nothing quite like the communal shower stalls. :) It'll be like running my own youth hostel.
- There's also nothing like saying you have the Real World Suite to convince the eye candy at Moon to come up for an afterparty... ^

Mrp: Can you tell me a bit about your party? I see you are local, which probably explains the 100 guests. Did you also have catering, DJ, etc.? How large is that jacuzzi? Feel free to PM if you prefer. (My group will of course be smaller since we are traveling from out of town. Then again, if my friends and I have great success, perhaps we will wind up with 100 newly found friends!)

I must say that I DO like the idea of a private pool, so I will also investigate Palms Place penthouses. How far removed is Palms Place, though? I haven't set foot in Palms in years...

Seen the Real World Suite. Like all the other Fantasy suites at the Palms, they're extremely overpriced and overrated. I get what you're saying about sleeping situations and not wanting intrusive butlers, but having a few parties under my belt, I can tell you that bedrooms on each side acting as a sound barrier and "Do Not Disturb" lights go a long way.

There's also nothing like saying you have the Real World Suite to convince the eye candy at Moon to come up for an afterparty... ^

"I have a Bellagio villa" works better ;). $7000 for a three bedroom. If you need more beds, there are five "Entourage" suites on the same floor. Nobody will hear a peep in those villas.

I think I would better enjoy the pampering of SkyLofts, Mansion, Four Seasons, etc. for my 40th or 50th birthday...


Ouch. Did anyone else just read that and say, "Wow, that stings a bit..."

Mike

Ouch. Did anyone else just read that and say, "Wow, that stings a bit..."

LOL, my 40th is next year,

and this is my idea (http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_2.php), of a proper venue for a 40th bday. :cool::cool:

LOL, my 40th is next year,

and this is my idea (http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_2.php), of a proper venue for a 40th bday. :cool::cool:

With a bevy of beauties of course ;).

With a bevy of beauties of course ;).

instead of FlyerTalkers? The hugh hefner playboy FlyerTalk bday DO! :eek: :p

or, in addition to FlyerTalkers?

instead of FlyerTalkers? The hugh hefner playboy FlyerTalk bday DO! :eek: :p

or, in addition to FlyerTalkers?

well, with the addition of at least "one" FlyerTalker please...;) (no I'm not referring to QuietLion :p).

mwdelta, only thing wynn doesnt book is ground floor fairway and apartment at wynn.

* pbraincafe, this is all you need to see of palms place penthouse. :cool:
http://www.palmsplace.com/img/cms/8_ss_pindo_5.jpg

* still think you should see what palazzo/venetian has in terms of pools/paiza. cause theres also tao (skyboxes) and that new club at palazzo. paiza seems bookable in macau now, and sounds amazing. not sure if theyre booking in vegas. but with wynn opening up apartments at encore... negotiate!

* you could also see if caesars will book the new 6BR for around $10K. >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/las-vegas/959191-caesars-forum-tower-penthouse-sleeps-14-a.html
from that thread >
hmm

http://www.caesarspalace.com/images/non_image_assets/CLV_Augustus_Tower_Penthouse_SuiteA_Room_Layout.pd f
4BR sleeps 12

i guess if the dens dont have sofabeds, it doesnt really sleep more people than some of the 4BRs, like at mansion and hilton.

- the one thing about mansion is the private (shared) pool. (in addition to room pool) not good for women, unless there happen to be single whales or celebs or something, but very nice.

- planet hollywood timeshare tower supposedly has 28 penthouses with shared rooftop pool. no idea if theyre putting those in hotel inventory or allowing short term rentals, and cant for the life of me find anyone to talk to about it. could try though. anyone have ideas/contacts?

btw how do we audition to be QuietLion's friend? :eek: maybe pay for non casino trips? :D

baccarat_king, not top suite at palazzo?
Stayed at the Heff Suite at the Palms - IMHO prob worth $5-10K max, not anywhere near the $40K they claim - and that is only based on the amount of rooms, not sure why I want a hot jacuzzi outside in vegas.
The bar is nice and the TV room is pretty funky but thats it really.

i was also surprised to be impressed by a reasonable looking suite @ water tower in AC >
http://www.epaperflip.com/aglaia/viewer.aspx?docid=21e5ff8908b14defa924e48a15afcbdb&page=72

"I have a Bellagio villa" works better ;). $7000 for a three bedroom. If you need more beds, there are five "Entourage" suites on the same floor. Nobody will hear a peep in those villas.

Bellagio villa does look more impressive than the Encore Duplex (at least according to YouTube) but an article I pulled up says it goes for $5k on the weekends. Stay at Encore, save $2k and spend it on bottle service at XS?

Bellagio villa does look more impressive than the Encore Duplex (at least according to YouTube) but an article I pulled up says it goes for $5k on the weekends. Stay at Encore, save $2k and spend it on bottle service at XS?

Agreed (and that's why I've got one booked for myself in December ;)). I just wanted give the OP the sense of the immensely more decadent accommodations that could be had for the dough he's willing to spend. Also, with locale at the end of the tower, bedrooms acting as buffers, and walls covered in upholstered mohair, you could blast a canon in a duplex and nobody would notice.

By the way, did you actually find a video of a Bellagio villa on YouTube? I've found an ultra short one after searching high and low, but it's not even worth looking for and posting.

i recently talked to bellagio about prices, as have others that have posted. theyve gone way up since those (forbes etc) articles.

theyre saying aria sky villas will run $4K > $7.5K IIRC.

curious what rates are like at palazzo/venetian for pools, and if paiza is bookable now, like macau seems to be.

curious what rates are like at palazzo/venetian for pools, and if paiza is bookable now, like macau seems to be.

unless I previously missed something, the Palazzo Website, is now listing the Lago Suites under suite accommodations :
PALAZZO LAGO (http://palazzolasvegas.com/pal_lago_suite.aspx)
PALAZZO LAGO MEDIA (http://palazzolasvegas.com/pal_lago_media_suite.aspx)
PALAZZO LAGO TWO BEDROOM (http://palazzolasvegas.com/pal_lago_2bd_suite.aspx)

perhaps, getting one step closer to the Paiza accommodations for the general public. ;);)

Though, there are still many Venetian/Palazzo suites that are NOT mentioned on the website (Renaissance Suite @ Venetian comes to mind...)

dont seem to be loaded in res system.

all ive seen is chairman suite in elite traveler listed at $15K. (which id assume is paiza but maybe not)

busy gave some rates for some lago suites IIRC. said you had to contact catering or something.

I "think" Lago Suites are now applicable for the $$$ for upgrade program for COMP rooms @ Palazzo. I was offered to a Venetian Renaissance once, as an upgrade, but it wasn't worth the $ (for me alone on a short solo trip), even at the much reduced rate. (of course, my feeble mind does not remember the $ amount from a year+ ago... think it was $200'ish per night).

now that might be interesting, if they had really large / pool / paiza available through that

By the way, did you actually find a video of a Bellagio villa on YouTube? I've found an ultra short one after searching high and low, but it's not even worth looking for and posting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0_30uylzY

(Remember that there are subsequent #3, #4 videos - #1 can be skipped)

Unbelievable that it has a sauna, steam room, outdoor jacuzzi, shower, and pool.

EDIT: I just realized this must be a Venetian suite (Treasure Island in the background). My bad. Still impressive.

Mrp: Can you tell me a bit about your party? I see you are local, which probably explains the 100 guests. Did you also have catering, DJ, etc.? How large is that jacuzzi? Feel free to PM if you prefer. (My group will of course be smaller since we are traveling from out of town. Then again, if my friends and I have great success, perhaps we will wind up with 100 newly found friends!)


The event was officially of the 'corporate' type, but it quickly got out of hand with the blessings of the party organizers. Catering was of the Costco veggie tray variety, but if you need a referral for a very affordable private chef, let me know. Alcohol was purely self-service. There were over 100 people in attendance including party crashers from the bachelor party suite and basketball suites next door. As for the jacuzzi tub, it is not very big. It was cramped with 4 people in it.

Check out this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeozR_AE50)for a good overview of the RW Suite. The big advantage of the Palms is that several suites are on the same floor - everyone there is looking to party.

Feel free to PM if you need any additional information.

good to know re other suites.

not sure if celeb owners bought (and closed on) penthouses or not (seem to recall i couldnt easily check records online) but at palms place, especially penthouses, you might run into interesting people as well. there are 5 per floor on top 4 floors.

Ouch. Did anyone else just read that and say, "Wow, that stings a bit..."

Mike

LOL. I didn't intend to be mean, although I admit I threw that quip to provoke some discussion. Looks like I succeeded!

The last YouTube clip was incredible. Love the idea of a suite with a private outdoor jacuzzi. Am dying to know where that was, or anything similar.

Will start making some phone calls this week and see what is available in terms of Bellagio Villas, Caesars, Palms, and Palms Place. Encore Duplex units seem amazing, although website indicates they are not available for the specific weekend I am looking for.

Hmm... except I'm not quite sure WHOM I should call. I've never called an 800 number to haggle over 4-5 figure hotel rooms before. If anyone has any specific contacts at hotels or any other suggestions (Amex Plat concierge? Although I've found them to be useless in the past), would appreciate any leads by post or PM.

The event was officially of the 'corporate' type, but it quickly got out of hand with the blessings of the party organizers. Catering was of the Costco veggie tray variety, but if you need a referral for a very affordable private chef, let me know. Alcohol was purely self-service. There were over 100 people in attendance including party crashers from the bachelor party suite and basketball suites next door. As for the jacuzzi tub, it is not very big. It was cramped with 4 people in it.

Check out this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGeozR_AE50)for a good overview of the RW Suite. The big advantage of the Palms is that several suites are on the same floor - everyone there is looking to party.

Interesting. I thought the basketball suite was in the newer tower (Fantasy Tower?).

pbraincafe, talk to GM, unless its casino controlled.

video was for venetian. palazzo also has suites with pools. possibly with access to paiza lounge as well. and you get points on spend now. and dont forget skyboxes at tao.

actually IIRC this is also $10K >
http://www.palmsfantasy.com/suite.php?action=principal&suiteid=16
cantilever jacuzzi/pool like palms place, but palms place has that glass wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0_30uylzY

(Remember that there are subsequent #3, #4 videos - #1 can be skipped)

Unbelievable that it has a sauna, steam room, outdoor jacuzzi, shower, and pool.

EDIT: I just realized this must be a Venetian suite (Treasure Island in the background). My bad. Still impressive.

How much to you have to gamble to get the suite in the video..... it looks amazing,......

The suite MumbaiFlyer posted is of a villa at Palazzo. If you listen closely, it sounds like the guy says it was $2000 per night. Maybe available to upgrade to, perhaps? You're not going to get that rate calling in. Venetian/Palazzo are pretty generous about tossing their best suites into the day-of upgrade pool, though.

It's got a lot of amenities, but absolutely no sense of consistency, harmony, or symmetry in its interior design. Compare to a Wynn Las Vegas Apartment Villa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd1WQXfsPxY

The suite MumbaiFlyer posted is of a villa at Palazzo. If you listen closely, it sounds like the guy says it was $2000 per night. Maybe available to upgrade to, perhaps? You're not going to get that rate calling in. Venetian/Palazzo are pretty generous about tossing their best suites into the day-of upgrade pool, though.

It's got a lot of amenities, but absolutely no sense of consistency, harmony, or symmetry in its interior design. Compare to a Wynn Las Vegas Apartment Villa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd1WQXfsPxY

The Wynn Villa is very nice!! Consistently gaudy but still VERY VERY nice!! I guess the $20 trick won't get one into this room.....:D

they dont book ground floor fairway or apts, but you never know what might happen when the place is overbooked. probably will be a while before that kind of problem crops up again, even considering events.

Venetian/Palazzo are pretty generous about tossing their best suites into the day-of upgrade pool, though.]
^

pbraincafe, talk to GM, unless its casino controlled.

albeit, a riskier way to proceed,

If you can secure a ressie that's acceptable (as a backup) with a decent cancellation policy (i.e. 3-4 days), you might be able to negotiate a better deal 7-10 days out. Of course, this would have to assume the suite you were interested in negotiating for was available, on that short notice. Your $ leverage on these specialty suites will increase substantially (IMO), if they are looking like they might go empty.

LOL, my 40th is next year,

and this is my idea (http://www.palms.com/suites_villas_2.php), of a proper venue for a 40th bday. :cool::cool:

DW has already been told that I'd like a suite at Fenway for my 40th. Let's see if she can deliver...

Mike

DW has already been told that I'd like a suite at Fenway for my 40th. Let's see if she can deliver...

having spent much time in the suites @ Fenway, I'd say they are a 'bit' overrated ;);) though, I still have no complaints.

My most exciting moment this year, is when I noticed they now stock Woodford Reserve @ the EMC2 bar; previously only Makers was available.

I "think" Lago Suites are now applicable for the $$$ for upgrade program for COMP rooms @ Palazzo. I was offered to a Venetian Renaissance once, as an upgrade, but it wasn't worth the $ (for me alone on a short solo trip), even at the much reduced rate. (of course, my feeble mind does not remember the $ amount from a year+ ago... think it was $200'ish per night).

now that might be interesting, if they had really large / pool / paiza available through that

Venetian/Palazzo are pretty generous about tossing their best suites into the day-of upgrade pool, though.

I did a 'bit' of research today, and it 'seems' that almost everything is 'fair game' @ Venetian/Palazzo with regard to upgrades from COMP rooms. Of course, it depends on availability, and the [advance] upgrade rate is consistent; so a Friday/Saturday night is probably a better deal.

For example, rates to upgrade a COMP room currently are :

as low as $50 for a Venetian Rialto upgrade,

Palazzo Lago 1Bedroom $600
Palazzo Lago 2Bedroom $900
Renaissance Venetian $600
Penthouse Venetian $2000

Of course, as I've noticed first hand, you can save 50% or more on the above upgrade rates if done on day of arrival. Though, they need to have the rooms available for upgrade. Reserving [the upgrade] in advance comes with the security of knowing what you'll get at check-in. Personally, I'd still opt for negotiating at check-in. ;)

Removed -- question answered several posts up. My apologies!!

Interesting. I thought the basketball suite was in the newer tower (Fantasy Tower?).
It is in the Fantasy Tower, it has an elevator that puts you out in the rear of the high limits room.

dont seem to be loaded in res system.

all ive seen is chairman suite in elite traveler listed at $15K. (which id assume is paiza but maybe not)

busy gave some rates for some lago suites IIRC. said you had to contact catering or something.

Their policies have changes and you can now book top suites through vip services directors. You can definately book a renassance. as for the 2K suites thats what they sometimes qute for a penthouse but, Ive heard 5K most often and I believe the penthouses are paiza but, not sure on that. I would be surpised if there are any suites in LV that are not bookable. MikeE are you getting butler service with your 3 bdrm apt (b/c you should)?

- wynn ground floor fairway and apartment villas = not

they did open up encore apts, and seems like venetian macau opened up paiza

- also, while caesars used to say theyd book anything, latest PR re 6BR was more "not bookable" etc

having spent much time in the suites @ Fenway, I'd say they are a 'bit' overrated ;);) though, I still have no complaints.

My most exciting moment this year, is when I noticed they now stock Woodford Reserve @ the EMC2 bar; previously only Makers was available.

Oh yeah, they're very overrated. But I'll still only turn 40 once.

Mike

MikeE are you getting butler service with your 3 bdrm apt (b/c you should)?

From what reservations tells me, no. I did speak to villa services as well and they said that is something that will be addressed as the date gets closer. I got the vibe that nobody gets butler service unless booking through casino, but sporadic reviews I've read say otherwise.

The least they could do is send me a Phantom :D.

From what reservations tells me, no. I did speak to villa services as well and they said that is something that will be addressed as the date gets closer. I got the vibe that nobody gets butler service unless booking through casino, but sporadic reviews I've read say otherwise.

The least they could do is send me a Phantom :D.

You should get a butler. Villa services are not the people to be speaking with in my opinion.

dont added services sometimes depend on rack rate being paid, if not comp?

http://mirage.com/thevillas/

thanks MikeE ^

http://mirage.com/thevillas/

thanks MikeE ^

I take it the $20 trick won't work for these accommodations!! :D I wonder if the $100 trick may do the trick?? :D