This has happened before and I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.
I picked up an order of steamed clams and a cheeseburger to go. I get home and open the styrofoam boxes. Inside one, as promised, are 30 littlenecks and a small container of garlic butter (maybe 3 ounces - sufficient for our purposes). Inside the other is a 1/2 pound burger, a good portion of fries and a small container of slaw about 1/3 the size of the butter container! Maybe an ounce. Might hold 2 coffee creamers or six quarters. Appropriate for tartar sauce maybe. A Reagan era serving of vegetables, maybe. A forkful. I'd be embarrassed to put this in front of a customer.
So what's the correct size for a side of slaw? I like at least an ice cream scoopful, if not two. I want a side, not a condiment.
Your thoughts?
cblaisd
Aug 14, 09, 9:29 pm
So what's the correct size for a side of slaw?
Size zero.
Nasty stuff.
:D
UALfromMSN
Aug 14, 09, 9:30 pm
I would say a cup of slaw is about right.
djk7
Aug 14, 09, 9:45 pm
Size zero.
Nasty stuff.
:D
+1
BamaVol
Aug 14, 09, 11:46 pm
Size zero.
Nasty stuff.
:D
+1
You probably put ketchup on your hot dogs. :D
braslvr
Aug 15, 09, 12:26 am
Thinking of the "Foods you hate" thread and the huge number of mayonnaise haters there I guess it's not surprising. I love the stuff and would say that KFC's serving is about right. I'm guessing it's about 4-5 ounces. I'm seriously jonesing for some No. Carolina pulled pork w/coleslaw now. A combination made in heaven.
This has happened before and I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.
I picked up an order of steamed clams and a cheeseburger to go. I get home and open the styrofoam boxes. Inside one, as promised, are 30 littlenecks and a small container of garlic butter (maybe 3 ounces - sufficient for our purposes). Inside the other is a 1/2 pound burger, a good portion of fries and a small container of slaw about 1/3 the size of the butter container! Maybe an ounce. Might hold 2 coffee creamers or six quarters. Appropriate for tartar sauce maybe. A Reagan era serving of vegetables, maybe. A forkful. I'd be embarrassed to put this in front of a customer.
So what's the correct size for a side of slaw? I like at least an ice cream scoopful, if not two. I want a side, not a condiment.
Your thoughts?
I'm admiring the rest of your lunch (supper?). After I've downed a 1/2 lb burger, a "good portion of fries", and 30 littlenecks with garlic butter, I'll usually want a healthy portion of slaw to soothe that small little voice in the back of my mind that keeps saying, "you should have some vegetables with that". A large ice cream scoop seems about right. ;)
bitburgr
Aug 15, 09, 10:44 am
So what's the correct size for a side of slaw? I like at least an ice cream scoopful, if not two. Enough to put on my pulled pork sandwich, plus a couple of forkfuls extra.
PDXOutbound
Aug 15, 09, 10:51 am
I'm admiring the rest of your lunch (supper?). After I've downed a 1/2 lb burger, a "good portion of fries", and 30 littlenecks with garlic butter, I'll usually want a healthy portion of slaw to soothe that small little voice in the back of my mind that keeps saying, "you should have some vegetables with that". A large ice cream scoop seems about right. ;)
+1...An Ice Cream scoop is perfect. You can drop it on a pulled pork sandwich, slap it as a side with your steak, or just eat it by itself. Probably about a 1/3 of a cup.
And slaw (mayo) haters....eat it with greek yogurt and cumin...you'll never scoff again. ^
obscure2k
Aug 15, 09, 2:52 pm
Agree that an ice cream scoop sounds about right. Oh, and I love slaw.
UCBeau
Aug 15, 09, 3:31 pm
To me it would be a half to full cup..but I love slaw.
dingo
Aug 15, 09, 3:34 pm
I'd say whatever size the owner of the joint wants it to be?
wharvey
Aug 15, 09, 3:49 pm
Unfortunately, that is correct. I love slaw... and hate it when I get a small portion....
WE have a great barbeque joint near us... but they give the smallest serving of slaw. Only about two bites.
I'd say whatever size the owner of the joint wants it to be?
cblaisd
Aug 15, 09, 6:43 pm
Enough to put on my pulled pork sandwich...
I'm going to be ill.
:D
wharvey
Aug 15, 09, 6:47 pm
Is a pulled pork sandwich really a pulled pork sandwich without the slaw? :D
Enough to put on my pulled pork sandwich, plus a couple of forkfuls extra.
obscure2k
Aug 15, 09, 10:54 pm
Is a pulled pork sandwich really a pulled pork sandwich without the slaw? :D
Definitely not! That sandwich needs the slaw, even more than barbeque sauce.
braslvr
Aug 16, 09, 12:49 am
Definitely not! That sandwich needs the slaw, even more than barbeque sauce.
Yes indeed. And the pulled pork "plate" needs it just as much. Dang, it's been far too long since I've had some good smoked pig's butt - w/slaw. :(
IMHO the key of good coleslaw is to have the just right amount of mayo.... not too much else it becomes way toooo heavy. Good quality vinegar is also important.
HIDDY
Aug 16, 09, 3:55 pm
Good quality vinegar is also important.
Heaven forbid - no vinegar please.
Diced cabbage,carrot some double cream and good quality mayonnaise. Nothing more needed apart from some decent bread,thinly sliced beef. Oh and a nice glass of Malbec. ;)
Diced cabbage,carrot some double cream and good quality mayonnaise. Nothing more needed apart from some decent bread,thinly sliced beef. Oh and a nice glass of Malbec. ;)
Forgive me... I thought the stuff required some vinegar in the mix...
Forgive me... I thought the stuff required some vinegar in the mix...
Tons of people do in fact enjoy it with vinegar, it's a regional thing I suspect :)
Frodosan
Aug 17, 09, 2:06 pm
Tons of people do in fact enjoy it with vinegar, it's a regional thing I suspect :)
Here in north Alabama, when you buy a BBQ pork sandwich or plate at a "real" BBQ place, the slaw that you typically get (in fact I have never seen the other served at these places) is a vinegar-based cole slaw. Now, if you go to other types of restaurants, then you'll usually get the mayo version but with BBQ, I've only ever seen the vinegar style, which I personally don't like a bit.
Oh, and to answer the OP's question, you should probably get between 4 and 8 ounces depending on the generosity of the food preparer.
Orchids
Aug 17, 09, 2:34 pm
So what's the correct size for a side of slaw? I like at least an ice cream scoopful, if not two. I want a side, not a condiment.
Your thoughts?
Ask how large the side is and order accordingly. Maybe by the pint (I'm old), or cup. For a side--maybe 4-6 oz. I just picked some up at Fresh Market, and 14 oz. is supposed to be 3.5 servings. At a BBQ place, usually means 2 sides/person for takeout--the containers are tiny.
cblaisd
Aug 17, 09, 3:11 pm
...Maybe by the pint (I'm old), or cup. For a side--maybe 4-6 oz. I just picked some up at Fresh Market, and 14 oz. is supposed to be 3.5 servings.
If I had a nickel...and btw, that's a great thread!
milepig
Aug 17, 09, 3:58 pm
In Western North Carolina - any maybe the rest of the state as well, I avoid BBQ anywhere east of Shelby - the slaw is red and referred to as BBQ Slaw. I'm not sure what's in it - I don't think the red comes from BBQ sauce since it isn't that tangy. Get a pulled pork sandwich with that slaw, some hush puppies and a big ole glass of "ice" tea (never iced, ICE) and you'll think you've died and gone to heaven. Maybe some 'nana puddin' for desert if you have room.
Forgive me... I thought the stuff required some vinegar in the mix...
Tons of people do in fact enjoy it with vinegar, it's a regional thing I suspect :)
I thought I was right.... :)
Dugernaut
Aug 17, 09, 8:07 pm
I like mayo, but not in my slaw. Tangier the better. As to the portion size, an icecream sized scoop.
Non-NonRev
Aug 17, 09, 9:19 pm
Was the slaw a no-charge part of the main order, or was it an extra-cost "additional" side item?
If the former, I agree with the ice cream scoop-sized quantity. For an extra-cost item, 8oz for a "small", 16oz for a "large". These sizes dovetail with what my local grocery store (Publix) sells in their deli section (they also have a 32oz "family" size).
Steph3n
Aug 18, 09, 12:00 am
I like about the same size as a scoop of ice cream.
BamaVol
Aug 18, 09, 7:17 am
Was the slaw a no-charge part of the main order, or was it an extra-cost "additional" side item?
If the former, I agree with the ice cream scoop-sized quantity. For an extra-cost item, 8oz for a "small", 16oz for a "large". These sizes dovetail with what my local grocery store (Publix) sells in their deli section (they also have a 32oz "family" size).
In this case, I paid $10 for a 1/2 lb cheeseburger. According to the menu, it comes with fries and slaw. This was a dockside casual bar/restaurant. It just seems pointless to serve a side that fits on a single forkful. If it's a condiment, why not include ketchup and mustard (or mayo) in the menu description. If it's a side, give me something more. I did not see it listed as an extra-cost side on the menu. God forbid they charge more than $0.25 for that.
Orchids
Aug 18, 09, 9:25 am
In this case, I paid $10 for a 1/2 lb cheeseburger. According to the menu, it comes with fries and slaw.
You should have gotten at least 1/2 cup, or the modern equivalent, which seems to be an ice cream scoop. :p
Rejuvenated
Aug 18, 09, 4:03 pm
Size of one ice cream scoop is right for me.
Non-NonRev
Aug 19, 09, 12:47 am
I just thought of something - maybe the restaurant was running out of the slaw, and was "rationing" it out?
A recent experience I had may have been similar to yours: I was at a restaurant that serves a great split pea soup, generously topped with house-made croutons. When my order of soup arrived, only two forlorn croutons were in the bowl. I was going to ask for more, but before I could, the waitress told me that the regular baker was on vacation, and the substitute hadn't made enough croutons.
BamaVol
Aug 19, 09, 1:14 am
I just thought of something - maybe the restaurant was running out of the slaw, and was "rationing" it out?
A recent experience I had may have been similar to yours: I was at a restaurant that serves a great split pea soup, generously topped with house-made croutons. When my order of soup arrived, only two forlorn croutons were in the bowl. I was going to ask for more, but before I could, the waitress told me that the regular baker was on vacation, and the substitute hadn't made enough croutons.
Good point. I tried their website, but the on-line menu was incomplete. I guess I won't know until I go back.
Gaucho100K
Aug 24, 09, 4:53 pm
So back to the vinegar..... does the real recipe call for vinegar or not...???
braslvr
Aug 24, 09, 6:32 pm
So back to the vinegar..... does the real recipe call for vinegar or not...???
I'm pretty sure over 90% of slaw consumed in the US has at the minimum 5 ingredients. Cabbage, mayo, vinegar, sugar, and salt. That makes the 'standard' type of slaw that most all people expect when they order it.
bocastephen
Aug 25, 09, 1:41 pm
The best slaw on the plant: KFC in Canada (totally different from US recipe and texture). I could eat a bucket of that, easy.
BamaVol
Aug 25, 09, 3:25 pm
The best slaw on the plant: KFC in Canada (totally different from US recipe and texture). I could eat a bucket of that, easy.
You mean like a 10 piece bucket? I don't like anything that much. Plus that much cabbage all at once would cause a major growly in the bowely.
bocastephen
Aug 25, 09, 3:39 pm
You mean like a 10 piece bucket? I don't like anything that much. Plus that much cabbage all at once would cause a major growly in the bowely.
Not quite that size :) But it's darn good. The slaw is actually chopped and the dressing isn't nearly as creamy or mayonaissy as the US version. It perfectly balances sweet, sour and a hint of tart spice.
The best slaw on the plant: KFC in Canada (totally different from US recipe and texture). I could eat a bucket of that, easy.
recipe...?
N965VJ
Aug 25, 09, 6:48 pm
This is funny. Years ago I copied and pasted Todd Wilbur’s KFC coleslaw clone recipe off his website. I made a big batch of it a few weeks ago for 4th of July, but just checking to see if it was still online, I see that it has several ingredients not in the original version. Milk, buttermilk and vinegar (http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/recipedetail.asp?login=yes&id=57&agree=yes).
Sometimes I’ll order vinegar and oil with a salad and just use the vinegar and some pepper, so I guess having it in a slaw recipe is ok. I’m not sure about the buttermilk, though.
I thought it's a trade secret. I guess I can check google for some information. Maybe someone duplicated it.
Edited to add: Yes, someone did duplicate it. The trick for the Canadian version of the KFC slaw is chopping the cabbage to very small pieces (like a grain of rice as pointed out in the recipe) and the carrot/onion pieces should be even smaller to match the real product's consistency.
I would say half a cup should be the minimum side order size. (I prefer the dish with vinegar and light on the mayo.)
And thanks, all, for making my mouth water for a pulled-pork sandwich, which I am not likely to find here in Qatar, during Ramadan. :mad:
(Lamb ouzi -- a stringy, tender, sometimes richly greasy preparation -- nearby which you can sometimes find some cooked cabbage, is a vastly inferior option, but the closest thing that I am likely to find. :mad:)