JetBlue TrueBlue - jetBlue All-you-can-Jet pass

Here's an interesting marketing ploy. For $599, plus applicable taxes and fees, you can have any seat available on any flight, system-wide, between September 8 and October 8. There is a 3-day advance purchase and a $100 penalty if you miss a flight or cancel inside the 3 days, but otherwise it is unlimited. Fixed TB points earning so don't get your hopes up for some crazy fun like that.

But still, unlimited flights with last seat availability.

I'm seriously considering this even though I'm actually working full-time these days so my options would be limited to weekend travel only.

On sale through the 21st of August, "while supplies last."

http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009/08/how-much-blue-would-jetter-jet-if.html
http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131045&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1320102&highlight=

The last time I saw one of these was from Eastern Airlines in 1980s. $323 for 3 weeks network-wide. I went all over the Caribbean.

FTers can have a whole lot of fun with this. Do it or you will kick yourself later when you read others' stories!

Air Canada still has all sorts of packages like this.

Whoa...apparently according to the T&Cs, you can upgrade a flight that's currently booked within that window to an AYCJ pass and just pay the difference between what you already paid and $599.

Too bad I can't travel in Sept....I would be on this like butter on bread.

UPGRADING TO A PASS: If You have already purchased a flight on JetBlue scheduled to depart within the Travel Window, You may convert Your existing booking to Pass Travel by purchasing a Pass (an “Upgrade”). When You Upgrade, JetBlue will credit the base fare paid for Your existing booking (exclusive of taxes and fees) against the purchase price of Your Pass, and convert Your existing booking to Pass Travel without charging a change fee. In the event the base fare paid for Your existing booking exceeds the purchase price of Your Pass, any remaining amount will be placed in a credit shell valid for future travel on JetBlue for up to one year. Note, these Terms will apply to any previously booked travel that is converted to Pass Travel under this paragraph and will supersede any existing terms, such as refundability rules.

Bookings for those dates must suck right now.

This is clearly to get some revenue for the WORST trough period of the year, day after Labor day through first week of October. It does sound interesting, a couple of R/T's HPN-Florida and this thing pays for itself.

Great idea!

I'm really trying to figure out what fun I can have in 60 hours on a random weekend. I'm looking at 10pm Friday to 10am Monday.

I think I have JFK-SJU-SDQ-MCO-BOG-MCO-AUS-LGB-IAD-JFK (http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=JFK-SJU-SDQ-MCO-BOG-MCO-AUS-LGB-IAD-JFK&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&PATH-MINIMUM=&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=) for a hair under 11,000 miles flown. If it is possible to make a 60 minute connection in SDQ on the SJU-SDQ-FLL flight then I think I can get a couple more segments in but I'm not sure.

I'm really trying to figure out what fun I can have in 60 hours on a random weekend. I'm looking at 10pm Friday to 10am Monday.

I think I have JFK-SJU-SDQ-MCO-BOG-MCO-AUS-LGB-IAD-JFK (http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=JFK-SJU-SDQ-MCO-BOG-MCO-AUS-LGB-IAD-JFK&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&PATH-MINIMUM=&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=) for a hair under 11,000 miles flown. If it is possible to make a 60 minute connection in SDQ on the SJU-SDQ-FLL flight then I think I can get a couple more segments in but I'm not sure.

That's gotta be some kind of record... Too bad you can't earn normal points alotments on it like a MR... Still one heck of a story.

Anyone happen to know how the charge shows up on your CC? I'm wondering if this can be combined with a card like Citi's PPE for some insane mileage runs...

Buried in the small print...

Each All-You-Can-Jet Pass is eligible for 35 TrueBlue points

This is an interesting way of drumming up business (and additional revenue before the end of the quarter) during what is typically a slow travel period.

Buried in the small print...

Each All-You-Can-Jet Pass is eligible for 35 TrueBlue points

Wow, that's about $100 worth of points. This is a really hot deal.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has booked using this-- kind of have the fear that it's going to be popular and all weekends will get sold out quickly, and don't want to be stuck with worthless $600 ticket in that case!

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has booked using this-- kind of have the fear that it's going to be popular and all weekends will get sold out quickly, and don't want to be stuck with worthless $600 ticket in that case!

There will be plenty of seats, don't forget this is the worst month of the year for B6.

Buried in the small print...

Each All-You-Can-Jet Pass is eligible for 35 TrueBlue points

Wow, that's about $100 worth of points. This is a really hot deal.


And as the OP pointed out:
Fixed TB points earning so don't get your hopes up for some crazy fun like that.

that's all the TB points you get:

"Pass Travel is not eligible for additional True Blue points" (http://www.jetblue.com/deals/all-you-can-jet/tc.pdf)

And that's all the TB points you get:

"Pass Travel is not eligible for additional True Blue points" (http://www.jetblue.com/deals/all-you-can-jet/tc.pdf)

Well, of course. Otherwise you could earn more in point value than the pass costs.

Speaking of which, back in the 1980s Eastern sold senior travel passes for about $1300. You could fly once per week for a year. I met a guy who bought two passes so he could fly a round trip each week. For the entire year of 1988 he earned triple miles on his pass travel: hundreds of thousands of miles! That was a pre-FT classic hot deal.

Obviously, they can't just give these away, so taxes and fees will be charged for international and Puerto Rico, just so you don't get toooo excited. Still, potentially great deal.

I think I should add one note. Whenever a business sells distant future services for cash up front, you should attempt to verify that the business is not on the verge of shutting down. Such sales are often initiated as a desperate grab for cash.

In this case the travel period ends on October 8, and the stock market appears to like JetBlue's chances for a much longer haul than that. So you would appear to be quite safe with this purchase.

Well, of course. Otherwise you could earn more in point value than the pass costs.

Speaking of which, back in the 1980s Eastern sold senior travel passes for about $1300. You could fly once per week for a year. I met a guy who bought two passes so he could fly a round trip each week. For the entire year of 1988 he earned triple miles on his pass travel: hundreds of thousands of miles! That was a pre-FT classic hot deal.

And miles were worth more in the 80's :)

Of course, we know what happened to Eastern :(

I think I should add one note. Whenever a business sells distant future services for cash up front, you should attempt to verify that the business is not on the verge of shutting down. Such sales are often initiated as a desperate grab for cash.

In this case the travel period ends on October 8, and the stock market appears to like JetBlue's chances for a much longer haul than that. So you would appear to be quite safe with this purchase.

This is interesting though. I just went on to their site JetBlue.com and try to "book" a flight between San Diego and Burlington, VT. It seems the calendar for departures and returns CAN NOT be book pass August 28,2009.

Strange?

This is interesting though. I just went on to their site JetBlue.com and try to "book" a flight between San Diego and Burlington, VT. It seems the calendar for departures and returns CAN NOT be book pass August 28,2009.

Strange?

Strange, indeed, but sounds like an issue on your end. I can book well into 2010 on my systems.

Strange, indeed, but sounds like an issue on your end. I can book well into 2010 on my systems.

Ok. Now it works passed Aug. 09'. But still strange is that when i click on the "date to leave" or "date to return", the calendar that is displayed is Feb 09' instead of the current month of Aug 09. I have to keep clicking the arrow til the current month or later shows up. No big deal about that but just strange.

anyone know what the booking class restricitons are on this? is it any seat?

anyone know what the booking class restricitons are on this? is it any seat?

Last seat availability. ^

Ok. Now it works passed Aug. 09'. But still strange is that when i click on the "date to leave" or "date to return", the calendar that is displayed is Feb 09' instead of the current month of Aug 09. I have to keep clicking the arrow til the current month or later shows up. No big deal about that but just strange.

Is the date on your computer correct?

But still, unlimited flights with last seat availability.



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*Offer ends 8/21/09, or earlier at JetBlue’s discretion. Pass includes unlimited coach class air travel for one person on JetBlue-operated flights between any cities in the JetBlue route network. Valid for travel between 9/8/09 and 10/8/09. Each flight must be booked no later than 11:59 pm MST 3 days prior to the flight’s scheduled departure. Changes or cancellations of flight bookings made after 11:59 pm MST 3 days prior to the flight’s scheduled departure will incur a $100 change/cancel fee. “No shows” for flights will incur a $100 fee, with Pass suspension until fee is paid. Passes may be used only to book new travel and may not be applied to existing reservations. Travel is subject to availability and seats may not be available on all flights. Passes may not be used for code share or interline flights, Getaways packages, Cruises, Gift Cards, or other products and services. Pass does not include taxes and fees applicable to international or Puerto Rico travel, including without limitation (a) Passenger Facility Charges of up to $9.00 each way, (b) September 11th Security Fees of up to $2.50 per enplanement at a U.S. originating airport, (c) Federal Segment Taxes of $3.60 per domestic segment (a segment is a takeoff and landing), (d) in the case of international travel, government fees and taxes of up to $127.60 each way, and (e) in the case of Puerto Rico travel, a US Departure Tax of $16.10 each way. All taxes and fees must be paid at the time of travel booking. Passes are non-refundable. Passes and Pass travel are non-transferable. A second bag fee of $30 applies. Other restrictions apply; see Terms and Conditions for complete details. © 2009 JetBlue Airways


In reviewing the T&C, I didn't see specific mention of last seat availability. Instead, I did see the above text in red, which may or may not mean last seat availability.

What is the definition of "seat availability"? Normal booking inventory, or a more restricted inventory akin to TB award seats.

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Upon seeing this offer, I hope B6 does not pull an Air Florida, which offered such a pass just before they went out of business.

I've used the Eastern Airlines Unlimited Mileage fare twice, and the similar USA fare when it was offered--flew something like 48 flights in 22 days for ~$320 (that was not a pure MR, but actually a way to see many, many cities for sightseeing purposes).

I probably ate that much value in airline meals then.

Wow, if they had more than 2 daily flights out of HOU (both to JFK before the work day ends), I'd definitely jump on this deal. But with my vacation days limited, it doesn't make sense to buy this if I can only go to places on Saturday morning.

Or, as my wife says: "If only you were retired."

In reviewing the T&C, I didn't see specific mention of last seat availability. Instead, I did see the above text in red, which may or may not mean last seat availability.

It's not the T&C, but http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131045&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1320102&highlight= says:

Pass holders will have access to every available seat on every flight with no blackout dates, and can book travel up to three days prior to departure through October 5(a).

a) Offer ends 8/21/09, or earlier at JetBlue's discretion. Pass includes unlimited coach class air travel for one person on JetBlue-operated flights between any cities in the JetBlue route network. Valid for travel between 9/8/09 and 10/8/09. Each flight must be booked no later than 11:59pm MDT 3 days prior to the flight's scheduled departure. Changes or cancellations of flight bookings made after 11:59pm MDT 3 days prior to the flight's scheduled departure will incur a $100 change/cancel fee. "No shows" for flights will incur a $100 fee, with Pass suspension until fee is paid. Passes may be used only to book new travel and may not be applied to existing reservations. Travel is subject to availability and seats may not be available on all flights. Passes may not be used for code share or interline flights, Getaways packages, Cruises, Gift Cards, or other products and services. Pass does not include taxes and fees applicable to international or Puerto Rico travel, including without limitation (a) Passenger Facility Charges of up to $9.00 each way

Is the date on your computer correct?

Oh my god i am such a ditz. No, the date on my calender is still Feb for some reason. Just got a new NetBook by Acer. Still learning from it.

Thanks.

Does anyone have experience with what the range of international taxes are on JetBlue's destinations?

Too bad I can't take a month off and take advantage of this deal !

It's not the T&C, but http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131045&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1320102&highlight= says: Each flight must be booked no later than 11:59pm MDT 3 days prior to the flight's scheduled departure. [/INDENT]

This is key in limiting the flexibility if you cannot book within 3 days:td:

One thing to note...despite the T&C's saying "Pass holders will have access to every available seat on every flight with no blackout dates", Even More Legroom (EML) seats are NOT available with this offer.

The detailed T&C's say "Passes may not be used to
purchase other products or services that are sold separately, such as Even More Legroom seats".

That would be even BETTER if you could book EML seats! I guess I won't complain though.

This is key in limiting the flexibility if you cannot book within 3 days:td:

Back when I bought the 3-week Eastern pass, I booked the flights 2 months ahead. It was quite tricky to flit about the Caribbean when several of the islands only had service 2 days per week. Yes, this deal is for leisure travel.

*The change and cancellation provisions seem a little onerous. I don't always know exactly what time I will want to go. They should offer standby on your ticketed day of departure and a more liberal cancellation rule. Like maybe allow 3 cancellations in the pass month. I suspect if a pax arrives at the ATO with in 2 hours or there abouts the ATO will probably honor some sort of unofficial flat tire rule; and
*It is odd they don't sell or book these on the web, but they probably don't have the IT infrastructure set up. I wonder how they are booking and ticketing these PNRs in their CRS?
*Is the system really going to be smart enough to penalize a pax who no shows a flight? I wonder how that will be done IT/system wise? I've always thought B6 should just overbhook flights like the rest of the industry. If overbooking volunteer solicitiation is done correctly it is not that much of an issue. Personally I love oversales, and I may not fly B6 because I know I couldn't play the bumping game if they don't overbook. Overbooking would presumably allow them to offer more flexible change/cancellation terms.

Did any of you guys have any idea this was coming? Anyone think the rest of the industry will match in any way?

*The change and cancellation provisions seem a little onerous. I don't always know exactly what time I will want to go. They should offer standby on your ticketed day of departure and a more liberal cancellation rule. Like maybe allow 3 cancellations in the pass month. I suspect if a pax arrives at the ATO with in 2 hours or there abouts the ATO will probably honor some sort of unofficial flat tire rule; and
*It is odd they don't sell or book these on the web, but they probably don't have the IT infrastructure set up. I wonder how they are booking and ticketing these PNRs in their CRS?
*Is the system really going to be smart enough to penalize a pax who no shows a flight? I wonder how that will be done IT/system wise? I've always thought B6 should just overbhook flights like the rest of the industry. If overbooking volunteer solicitiation is done correctly it is not that much of an issue. Personally I love oversales, and I may not fly B6 because I know I couldn't play the bumping game if they don't overbook. Overbooking would presumably allow them to offer more flexible change/cancellation terms.

Did any of you guys have any idea this was coming? Anyone think the rest of the industry will match in any way?

Someone above posted a quote from the Web site that said the pass would be suspended until the fee is paid. My guess is that they will pretty much just treat the entire pass like one big PNR so that they can figure out where you have been and where you are going/ what you have missed.

Ok, so I don't fly Jetblue because It's not around me, but I saw this that might be intresting to you folks. Sorry if it's posted already, I search didn't see it.

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/a-month-of-jetblue-f-5092/


Never mind just saw the thread. I must be blind.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/jetblue-trueblue/984448-all-you-can-jet-jetblue-one-month-599-a.html

I flew EA's Unlimited Mileage Fare twice in 1978 and again in 1980. On the second one, I did 104,000 miles in three weeks. I just wanted to fly a whole lot and fly I did. Lots of good meals back then and better leg room and seat comfort as well.

I've flown Jet Blue. It was like going on a 4th grade field trip on a bus (Many of the passengers behaved like 4th graders) compared to flying the legacy carriers in the "good old days". Or even today. Still, for those of you who've got the time, this is a great deal! It still would be even if you didn't get mileage credit.

Have fun and happy contrails!

I've flown Jet Blue. It was like going on a 4th grade field trip on a bus (Many of the passengers behaved like 4th graders) compared to flying the legacy carriers in the "good old days".Well, I'm sure a lot of things are different compared to your "good old days". :)

I've only flown 5 segments on JetBlue (all transcons) and none resembled a 4th grade field trip. YMMV.

I've only flown 5 segments on JetBlue (all transcons) and none resembled a 4th grade field trip. YMMV.

I have a theory about these observations. FTers who have elite status on a legacy carrier tend to fly a non-legacy carrier, JetBlue or Southwest or Frontier or whoever, only for trips they are paying for themselves. These tend to be vacation trips to vacation destinations at peak vacation times. Such flights are packed with leisure travelers, much more so than an average flight on the airline.

We all tend to extrapolate from our own flight experiences, but if you haven't flown a representative sample of an airline's flights, meaning different markets at both peak and non-peak times, you don't have an accurate picture for anyone but yourself. For example, 95% of flights are on Southwest intra-California at commuting hours. The passengers are mostly business travelers. They know the routine, and the flights are uneventful. But I know that flights to LAS or MCO are a whole different animal.

I was getting ready for bed, and I heard about a $599 unlimited flying on my local news. I thought it was another stupid ploy to get you to watch the news through the commercial (not for me, thanks to TiVo) and could not believe it! I promptly had my pass issued. Thanks JetBlue! ^

We all tend to extrapolate from our own flight experiences, but if you haven't flown a representative sample of an airline's flights, meaning different markets at both peak and non-peak times, you don't have an accurate picture for anyone but yourself. For example, 95% of flights are on Southwest intra-California at commuting hours. The passengers are mostly business travelers. They know the routine, and the flights are uneventful. But I know that flights to LAS or MCO are a whole different animal.Oh, I completely agree. There's a range of passengers depending on the market and the time of day.

Just as there's a range of expectations across passengers. There's always the traveler who considers anything short of a cabin full of suits to be a "4th grade field trip". :)

This is a great deal, if Jet Blue were in my market I would jump on this as I would tend to look at if you took just three trips you would benefit. My initial feeling on the $100 cancelation fee was negative, but then I thought if there wasn't something like this people would book "just in case" tickets which could prevent people from actually booking tickets with a lot of bogus bookings. If they are allowing people to get last seat availability and just a 3-day advance purchase, it is a reasonable tradeoff. Allowing frequent flyer miles on these flights is even more amazing.

My other thought is I would think that after the deadline to purchase these passes you might see a huge fare sale. While they don't want to make those who purchased these passes angry with no availability they can't afford to let too many people to fly 30+ segments (or 60+ segments with connections). Of course an empty seat on the plane isn't generating any revenue, so why not, plus you might actually get some $100 cancellation fees.

It will be interesting to see if any other airline matches with any similar promotion.

Too bad I am in busy season for my work and I don't have enough vacation time.

Wish they can announce "earlier" so we can plan for this.

Someone above posted a quote from the Web site that said the pass would be suspended until the fee is paid. My guess is that they will pretty much just treat the entire pass like one big PNR so that they can figure out where you have been and where you are going/ what you have missed.
Indeed, it is built as a single "master" PNR that you must reference to book additional individual flights, each of which will have their own PNR. So that is how they will control things. All bookings do require calling in, not doing it online.
One thing to note...despite the T&C's saying "Pass holders will have access to every available seat on every flight with no blackout dates", Even More Legroom (EML) seats are NOT available with this offer.

The detailed T&C's say "Passes may not be used to
purchase other products or services that are sold separately, such as Even More Legroom seats".

That would be even BETTER if you could book EML seats! I guess I won't complain though.
EML seats are not a separate fare bucket. So it isn't like those seats are blocked from booking using the pass (really only an issue on the A320 where there are a significant number of them). If only EML seats are left for assignment you just won't get a seat assignment at the time of booking. You might get the EML for free and you might get stuck in a middle in the back. But it won't prevent you from booking in on a flight if those are the only unassigned seats left; it simply won't confirm your seating there unless you pay the $10/25/40 EML fee.
Oh my god i am such a ditz. No, the date on my calender is still Feb for some reason. Just got a new NetBook by Acer. Still learning from it.

Thanks.
NP.
Does anyone have experience with what the range of international taxes are on JetBlue's destinations?
You should be able to see them by doing a dummy booking on jetblue.com or at http://matrix.itasoftware.com/. A r/t JFK-SJU looks like ~$46 in taxes. A r/t MCO-BOG is closer to $75.

Also of note (and potentially VERY limiting for a crazy like me) is that apparently you can only initiate travel from any one city once per day. I'll have to see how that affects things with my grand plan to fly as much as possible on those weekends I still have free that month.Booking multiple flights departing from the same city on the same day is prohibited, and any such bookings will be cancelled with the exception of the most recently booked flight.

A fascinating promo. Curiously, it seems to have captured more of the imagination of the slickdeals type crowd than the flyertalk crowd. I guess flyertalkers like individual "mileage run" type fares better. :)

I have a feeling this deal is going to backfire on JetBlue, though. Primarily because they're offering "last seat availability." It's not rocket science to conclude that all the flights on Thursday nights, Fridays, Sundays and Mondays to desirable destinations (particularly long haul) are going to become fully booked. This will deprive them of their best revenue opportunities. Few will be using the passes on, say, Tuesday afternoons (on flights that would otherwise go out with empty seats).

Wish they can announce "earlier" so we can plan for this.

B6 tends to be a little last-minute with its promos. They had a "bike fees are waived during July" promo for the Tour de France that I completely would have gone for -- had they announced it before, well, July 1.

Oh why, oh why can't JetBlue fly to Dallas!?! (AA i know but still) Thanks for nothing :td: I think we are the largest market that B6 doesn't serve.

Is there any possibility that an of the other airlines might try and follow suit with a deal such as this? At least maybe see a break in fare prices while this promo is running?

Oh why, oh why can't JetBlue fly to Dallas!?! (AA i know but still) Thanks for nothing :td: I think we are the largest market that B6 doesn't serve.


JetBlue is the official airline of Cowboy haters as such, no flights to Dallas.

JetBlue is the official airline of Cowboy haters as such, no flights to Dallas.

OK, I'll bite. Can someone please explain?

This is a nice deal, especially if they let you do same-day returns. A day trip to NYC from my home is $450 for 3 day advance purchase. I'd bite but will be in Thailand for most of the pass validity period.

OK, I'll bite. Can someone please explain?

It was a joke!

Dallas Cowboys football team. They are either loved or hated. There is no in-between.

This is a nice deal, especially if they let you do same-day returns. A day trip to NYC from my home is $450 for 3 day advance purchase. I'd bite but will be in Thailand for most of the pass validity period.

A same-day return looks to be OK but same-day city hopping does not.

If one is currently retired, between jobs, and/or has a lot of free time, this is a great deal. Especially if you visit a lot in the Caribbean.

If I wasnt in my last semester of school starting Sept 8th. Id be all about this promotion. Granted my friends who live in Chicago might tire of picking me up, dropping me off, crashing on their couch for a month. I could spend the month at various Caribbean destinations.

Dear Jet Blue - Please add Green Bay as one of your departure cities just from Sept 8 - Oct 8. It would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
grbflyer

If one is currently retired, between jobs, and/or has a lot of free time, this is a great deal. Especially if you visit a lot in the Caribbean.

How so?

You pay taxes for every trip down there.
You do not get mileage for the travel.
Tickets and pass taxes are not that different.
You get mileage for tickets.

How so?

You pay taxes for every trip down there.
You do not get mileage for the travel.
Tickets and pass taxes are not that different.
You get mileage for tickets.
You'd pay taxes with a revenue ticket or a FF ticket. It is a wash in that regards unless the passes' taxes/fees are higher than a regular ticket. Well you do a couple dummy bookings from the West Coast to Caribbean destinations and you'll see how much it costs us to get down there. If one has a lot of free time, it is worth it.

How so?

You pay taxes for every trip down there.
You do not get mileage for the travel.
Tickets and pass taxes are not that different.
You get mileage for tickets.Because some people would rather save a couple hundred bucks on a R/T ticket instead of earning a couple thousand frequent flier miles.

And they're not even FF miles, they're soon-to-be-outdated TrueBlue 1.0 points. :eek:

Tickets and pass taxes are not that different.
:confused:

I do not understand this claim. The taxes are the same for international destinations whether one travels on this pass or on a paid ticket. The difference is in the airfare component. Certainly this pass would be a questionable deal for a single trip somewhere. But if one is willing to make two trips to the Caribbean the $599 will get very close to covering the fare component of the costs. Three trips makes it almost certain.

I'm going to buy one of these passes.

Does jetblue offer direct flights between Caribbean Islands/Bogota or would you have to go back through JFK every time you wanted to cruise to another Island on this pass? Also does the one departure per-day thing mean you have to wait a day between connection flights? like if i was going SFO to somewhere in the Caribbean would i need to stay a night in new york?

quaxon, it looks like you would have to go up to JFK every time you wanted to island hop.

I'm also wondering about your second question. That would make or break it for me because I can only leave on weekends, so there's no time for 1 day stopovers.

Welcome to FlyerTalk, exon111!

There are 2x daily flights from SJU-SDQ. Other than that there are no intra-island flights. In some cases you can route via MCO or FLL, but other destinations will require passing via JFK.

As for the one/day limit, I interpret it as connections not counting against you. So SFO-JFK-MCO followed by MCO-JFK-SYR would be valid in one day. But that is strictly my interpretation. I have no real inside information on this one.

Welcome to FlyerTalk, exon111!

There are 2x daily flights from SJU-SDQ. Other than that there are no intra-island flights. In some cases you can route via MCO or FLL, but other destinations will require passing via JFK.

As for the one/day limit, I interpret it as connections not counting against you. So SFO-JFK-MCO followed by MCO-JFK-SYR would be valid in one day. But that is strictly my interpretation. I have no real inside information on this one.

You are right sir. I was wondering the same so I asked before booking.

You are right sir. I was wondering the same so I asked before booking.

I do wonder just how ripe that is for abuse if one were creative. Fly to BUF on the late flight one night and then do BUF-BOS, BOS-SYR, SYR-BTV, BTV-ROC and you could potentially transit JFK 4x in one day. I don't know if the timing works for that specific schedule but it could be interesting.

I do wonder just how ripe that is for abuse if one were creative. Fly to BUF on the late flight one night and then do BUF-BOS, BOS-SYR, SYR-BTV, BTV-ROC and you could potentially transit JFK 4x in one day. I don't know if the timing works for that specific schedule but it could be interesting.

Personally I think the reason they have that rule is to prevent people from hogging flights because they aren't sure where they want to go. So if they didn't have that rule someone could book flights from JFK to 10 cities just to hoard them until they decided where to go.

Here's my booking tip. The JB website doesn't route all the flights you can possibly take. For example, it doesn't let you do Baltimore to Orlando. But you can book Baltimore to JFK and then JFK to Orlando. So make sure to try to route yourself.

I would like to say what a pleasure it is to deal with Jet Blue. They are a professional airline. They are courteous and competent. They answer the phone quickly and even apologize if it's been more than 2 minutes. Compared to that other airline I've been dealing with lately, they are an absolute joy.

Personally I think the reason they have that rule is to prevent people from hogging flights because they aren't sure where they want to go. So if they didn't have that rule someone could book flights from JFK to 10 cities just to hoard them until they decided where to go.



That was my interpretation as well.


As an aside, does anyone know how often JetBlue gates are close to other airline lounges? I'm thinking about buying prioritypass to accompany this pass but I know it may not be physically possible to reach some lounges when flying JB (as in Boston) -- I don't think JFK would work either.

jet blue is mostly in t5 at jfk, and the only terminal with lounges outside of security is t4, so it is possible to use them. you would still have to take the train over to t5, so you would probably need to do that at least 60 min before your flight. IMHO the best priority pass lounges are in t4, so it might be worth it. also i thinks some of the int'l jet blue flights leave from t4, so it may be worth the investment. i love my priority pass and i love t4!!:D

They depart from T5 but arrive at T4 . I don't believe that B6 has any flights that depart from T4 . (They used to but with T5 opening that is not the case).

Would anyone that signs up for this be willing to tweet their experience? I would love to follow this virtually!

Would anyone that signs up for this be willing to tweet their experience? I would love to follow this virtually!

Great idea!

I'd like to invite each of our intrepid travelers who is able to post while traveling to start his or her own thread chronicling the fun and the challenges. This should be great reading.

Great idea!

I'd like to invite each of our intrepid travelers who is able to post while traveling to start his or her own thread chronicling the fun and the challenges. This should be great reading.
I'll definitely be posting heavily if I do it. But I won't be doing so on twitter. ;)

IMO this is a great deal. If I were not an airline employee I'd jump all over it. It's still tempting, as I love JetBlue & non-rev is no fun & next to inpossible.

I'll definitely be posting heavily if I do it.

If you don't buy a pass, we'll all be wondering why you're not wandering. ;)

Here's another point to consider: Those Caribbean flights will probably have 25% or more of the passengers on passes. You'll have the best opportunity ever to meet people who share your passion for travel. You can trade travel tips, bring new people to FT, and maybe even plan to travel together for some parts of your trip.

If you don't buy a pass, we'll all be wondering why you're not wandering. ;)


I'm actually locked in to working 40-hour weeks right now. Were it not for that I'd definitely be on top of this thing. Between that and the limited late-night departures from NYC (I work until 8pm on Fridays) I'm forced to be more conservative in my planning.

I've bought my pass today and will be spending my weekend planning and book everything. At least we can cancel and fine tune or tweek the trip if needed w/o penalty (it was that option and the fact there are no first bag fees that allowed me to jump on this).

I will be tweeting, but I also post trip reports and stories on my personal blog, so follow that if you'd like.

Here is a Facebook group set up for people getting the passes:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=116413448843&ref=mf

Here is the travel tag URL for my blog posts related to traveling. It'll give a good example of how I travel and write: http://mikeblitch.blogspot.com/search/label/travel

From Fatwallet, posted by a true sports fan. One of the ultimate uses of a pass like this

That's what I'm doing. Unemployed, no boss to ask... Just booked all the flights.

9/6 SBA -> LAS
9/8 LAS -> JFK
9/9 TB @ NYY
9/10 FLA @ NYM
9/11 NYM @ PHI
9/13 Redskins @ Giants (Not baseball. so what?)
9/14 JFK -> BOS
9/15 ANA @ BOS
9/16 ANA @ BOS
9/17 BOS -> TB
9/18 TOR @ TB
9/19 TB -> DC
9/20 BOS @ BAL
9/22 LAD @ WAS
9/23 DC -> DEN
9/24 SDG @ COL
9/25 STL @ COL
9/26 DEN -> JFK
10/1 JFK -> SEA
10/2 TEX @ SEA
10/3 TEX @ SEA
10/4 TEX @ SEA
10/5 SEA -> LAS
10/12 LAS -> SBA

If I wanted to go from SAN to SFO, would I need to go through JFK? When I try to look on the jetBlue website SFO is not an option when I choose SAN as my origination airport.

If I wanted to go from SAN to SFO, would I need to go through JFK? When I try to look on the jetBlue website SFO is not an option when I choose SAN as my origination airport.

You could go SAN-SLC-LGB-SFO (though I'm not sure if that would be shorter than just going to JFK). If I were you, however, I would just drive up to LGB and catch a flight to SFO from there.

Just got permission from my boss to take a month off to do this. Looks like a great opportunity to see a lot US cities I haven't been to before. The only thing I'm worried about is accommodation costs, 30 nights of US hotels could get pretty hefty!

Just got permission from my boss to take a month off to do this. Looks like a great opportunity to see a lot US cities I haven't been to before. The only thing I'm worried about is accommodation costs, 30 nights of US hotels could get pretty hefty!

Fly on redeyes. Sleep in airports or hostels. Couch surf.

Lots of options to help control costs.

Can anyone clarify the "You may only book one flight per city per day" rule? If I were interested in, say, an LGB->JFK flight that arrived the next morning and a return trip on that same day, would this be permitted?

Can anyone clarify the "You may only book one flight per city per day" rule? If I were interested in, say, an LGB->JFK flight that arrived the next morning and a return trip on that same day, would this be permitted?

You cannot book a JFK-ROC-JFK round trip AND another flight out from JFK on the same day. You would be permitted to fly LGB-JFK and then return on the day you arrive. You would even be permitted to book LGB-PWM-LGB connecting in JFK both directions.

Can I pay to voluntarily upgrade to Extra Legroom at the time of booking with the pass? I can't find anything about this in the t&c.

Can I pay to voluntarily upgrade to Extra Legroom at the time of booking with the pass? I can't find anything about this in the t&c.

Yes you can. I was asked when booking whether I wanted to pay $40 to upgrade.

Yes you can. I was asked when booking whether I wanted to pay $40 to upgrade.

Thanks chewy, that's all I needed to hear.

Can anyone clarify the "You may only book one flight per city per day" rule? If I were interested in, say, an LGB->JFK flight that arrived the next morning and a return trip on that same day, would this be permitted?

You can only fly one time out of each city not just the airport. So if you want to fly LGB-SFO-LGB-JFK you will not be allowed to keep your reservation on the 2nd LGB flight. Also, If you want to fly JFK-BTV-JFK and then on the same day go to LGA to fly LGA-FLL you will not be able to keep LGA-FLL reservation because JFK and LGA are both NYC airports.

You can only fly one time out of each city not just the airport. So if you want to fly LGB-SFO-LGB-JFK you will not be allowed to keep your reservation on the 2nd LGB flight. Also, If you want to fly JFK-BTV-JFK and then on the same day go to LGA to fly LGA-FLL you will not be able to keep LGA-FLL reservation because JFK and LGA are both NYC airports.

But can you fly one-way JFK-BTV and then one-way BTV-FLL, connecting in JFK? @:-)

But can you fly one-way JFK-BTV and then one-way BTV-FLL, connecting in JFK? @:-)

No, once you leave JFK you have to wait until the next day to fly out of NYC again. Any connection or direct flight via JFK would not be allowed, all you can do is go back to JFK.

Just got permission from my boss to take a month off to do this. Looks like a great opportunity to see a lot US cities I haven't been to before. The only thing I'm worried about is accommodation costs, 30 nights of US hotels could get pretty hefty!

Wow, nice boss. Are you guys hiring? :)

As for the one/day limit, I interpret it as connections not counting against you. So SFO-JFK-MCO followed by MCO-JFK-SYR would be valid in one day. But that is strictly my interpretation. I have no real inside information on this one.

You are right sir. I was wondering the same so I asked before booking.

No, once you leave JFK you have to wait until the next day to fly out of NYC again. Any connection or direct flight via JFK would not be allowed, all you can do is go back to JFK.

Two differing opinions here. :confused:

I may call later this morning while on the train to WAS and confirm and then buy mine. I know I shouldn't since I won't be able to truly take advantage, but I want to. And I firmly believe in giving in to such wants. :p

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I just called and spoke to 3 different agents, including Christine, a manager responsible for booking the actual flights. She confirmed that the rule is specifically based on Departure city. A day of BOS-BUF followed by BUF-SJU, both transiting JFK, is permitted.

I just booked mine. :D :cool:

I may call later this morning while on the train to WAS and confirm and then buy mine. I know I shouldn't since I won't be able to truly take advantage, but I want to. And I firmly believe in giving in to such wants. :p

You are exactly the customer JetBlue hopes to win with this promotion. I'm sure you'll have a great time and collect some great stories from the people you meet on board. I am envious already.

I'm just starting a new gig so won't be able to finagle any major off time, esp because I have a conference in Oct but I'm thinking of getting it just for weekend travel to see friends in Florida and maybe a day trip to San Juan, PR.

It's a shame that everything routes through JFK but even 2 weekend daytrips from Cali to Florida is more than double the cost of the pass.

It's a shame that everything routes through JFK but even 2 weekend daytrips from Cali to Florida is more than double the cost of the pass.

You do have the SMF-LGB-FLL-SJU option, though I doubt that is particularly appealing.

I gotta figure out the best way to get to PDX from SJU. That's gonna be a fun weekend.

Fly on redeyes. Sleep in airports or hostels. Couch surf.

Lots of options to help control costs.

Dude, http://www.sleepinginairports.com/.

Here's my tip. Pile up the prayer rugs in the chapel and you'll sleep like a baby. It's comfy and quiet. No one ever goes in there, not even security.

I wish there was a site like showering in airports to list all the airports with showers. Me, I just have a 24 hour fitness membership and so I can shower at gyms around the globe.

JetBlue is the official airline of Cowboy haters as such, no flights to Dallas.

Dallas Cowboys- NFC Champs 2010

Dude, http://www.sleepinginairports.com/.

Here's my tip. Pile up the prayer rugs in the chapel and you'll sleep like a baby. It's comfy and quiet. No one ever goes in there, not even security.

I wish there was a site like showering in airports to list all the airports with showers. Me, I just have a 24 hour fitness membership and so I can shower at gyms around the globe.

There are showers in most airline lounges at major airports. Also, there is a 24 Hour Fitness inside Las Vegas airport.

I'll definitely be posting heavily if I do it. But I won't be doing so on twitter. ;)

I've made a liar out of myself, it seems. I signed up for a twitter account to go along with my AYCJ pass. http://twitter.com/wanderngaramean

Part of my initial weekend of flights are booked - JFK-LAS-LGB-PDX-LGB-ORD-JFK. She had to book the return trip as 3 one-way tickets since the natural routing for PDX-JFK doesn't include stops in LGB and ORD. And she did note, "you know we have a non-stop flight from Long Beach to JFK, right" during the booking. But she was more than happy to book the ORD segments when asked.

I will likely tag on late-night turns to Puerto Rico on either end of that weekend, giving me 10 flights and 7 airports over the weekend. I even stop long enough in PDX to overnight and hang out with some friends.

I'm also working on another weekend run of JFK-SAN-SLC-LGB-OAK//SFO-BOS-JFK in about 24 hours. That'll get me 5 more airports for my collection. And I can do another late-night run the night to the islands if I want to add another. :cool:

With the hurricane season in the Caribbean, what could we expect from B6 regarding the changes to booked flights, if say, a hurricane lands within 3 days of travel date? Anybody thought about that? I would like to go to SJU for a weekend and perhaps to AUA. While the latter is below the hurricane belt, the former is clearly not.

With the hurricane season in the Caribbean, what could we expect from B6 regarding the changes to booked flights, if say, a hurricane lands within 3 days of travel date? Anybody thought about that? I would like to go to SJU for a weekend and perhaps to AUA. While the latter is below the hurricane belt, the former is clearly not.I'd assume standard waivers would apply.

For those looking for crazy 24-hour(ish) routings, I've come up with a couple from the NYC area:
JFK-BOS-BUF-(JFK)-RIC-(JFK)-BTV-(5 hour overnight)-(JFK)-SYR-JFK can be done from 7:45am to 11:04 the following morning. Skip the SYR turn and you're in under 24 hours. It even includes a long enough layover in JFK on the BUF-RIC route to get some lunch and recharge a laptop. :cool:

There's also this 26 hour routing: JFK-SAN-SLC-LGB-OAK (BART) SFO-BOS-JFK 9:35am to 11:01am +1

Part of my initial weekend of flights are booked - JFK-LAS-LGB-PDX-LGB-ORD-JFK. She had to book the return trip as 3 one-way tickets since the natural routing for PDX-JFK doesn't include stops in LGB and ORD. And she did note, "you know we have a non-stop flight from Long Beach to JFK, right" during the booking. But she was more than happy to book the ORD segments when asked.

May I ask why you did that, if you aren't getting miles? Is it just to pick up the extra airports for your collection? ;)

Please let us know when the NYT article runs, btw. Sounds great. If they need more people to interview, send them my way. I can tell them about how I did two weekend trips to DEL, leaving my wife home with the kids, and then how she did the same to me. As my brother puts it, "Wrong for the world, right for each other."

Mike

May I ask why you did that, if you aren't getting miles? Is it just to pick up the extra airports for your collection? ;)

Pretty much. Since I cannot stop at any of the places all that long due to work constraints I've decided to see how many B6 stations I can visit. Doing crazy things like JFk-BUF-BOS-JFK on the morning of the 8th (6:05am departure is one of the earliest on the day the whole thing starts) and getting back to JFK in time to get to work at noon is just part of the fun for me.

I've made a liar out of myself, it seems. I signed up for a twitter account to go along with my AYCJ pass. http://twitter.com/wanderngaramean

Seems I'll be blogging it, too: http://allicanjet.wanderingaramean.com/.

I may get the pass; still need to figure out whether I fly to the Caribbean on all four weekends.

I am a little surprised that this thread hasn't generated more posts. In terms of value, for someone flying four or more times, the value is at least as great as, say, the free Icelandair tickets in 2004, but that threat grew to be a monster. JetBlue isn't as big as the legacy carriers, but it is somewhat bigger that Icelandair.

Pretty much. Since I cannot stop at any of the places all that long due to work constraints I've decided to see how many B6 stations I can visit. Doing crazy things like JFk-BUF-BOS-JFK on the morning of the 8th (6:05am departure is one of the earliest on the day the whole thing starts) and getting back to JFK in time to get to work at noon is just part of the fun for me.

You're wacky. I like it! :D

I may get the pass; still need to figure out whether I fly to the Caribbean on all four weekends.

I am a little surprised that this thread hasn't generated more posts. In terms of value, for someone flying four or more times, the value is at least as great as, say, the free Icelandair tickets in 2004, but that threat grew to be a monster. JetBlue isn't as big as the legacy carriers, but it is somewhat bigger that Icelandair.

No miles earned and it isn't all that cheap relative to the KEF deal.

As for going to the Caribbean all 4 weekends, be ready to drop about $100/trip extra in taxes (http://sn.im/aycjtax).

No miles earned and it isn't all that cheap relative to the KEF deal.

As for going to the Caribbean all 4 weekends, be ready to drop about $100/trip extra in taxes (http://sn.im/aycjtax).

I hear you, but:

1. On the IcelandAir deal, JFK-KEF flights didn't earn miles on codeshare partners, and few people would have valued earning Icelandair's miles. IIRC, the other routes did permit partner accrual.

2. I appear to be getting ~$750 of value (domestic flights/taxes + international flights, minus $599) based on four weekends. Plus there is a ton of option value. Last-seat availability and no change/cancel penalties up to 72 hours before should count for something -- I will be able to rearrange my weekends, for instance, if a friend in FLL happens to be in town on a given weekend. This has to be in the ballpark as Icelandair, and I expect a number of people will get substantially more value.

I also two of the Cyprus tickets, but was ultimately unable to use either one, due to their limited flexibility.

This value can't compete with J to AKL, etc. but it's not trivial.

3. Iceland was 5+ years ago, when Flyertalk was that much smaller than today.

4. Most mistake fares are up for only a few hours - I think Lima (which was ultimately dishonored) and Cyprus were <1 hour, and Icelandair was insanely long at 12 hours. This offer will have been available for over a week.


I'm also wondering, given how large FT is, whether we can draw any conclusions about how many of these B6 is selling, in light of having only ~100 posts on FT. To be certain, B6's motive was partly to get the massive free publicity, and they succeeded on that front, but I am really surprised that this thread is still at ~100 posts.

With the hurricane season in the Caribbean, what could we expect from B6 regarding the changes to booked flights, if say, a hurricane lands within 3 days of travel date? Anybody thought about that? I would like to go to SJU for a weekend and perhaps to AUA. While the latter is below the hurricane belt, the former is clearly not.

Actually SJU (San Juan, PR) is prone to late hurricane season storms. Late Aug - Nov storms are more likely to cross PR and Cuba (usually crossing PR as a Weak cat 1 at the most) and curve up into the Gulf of Mexico.

My guess is that they would wave the $100 fee for changes/cancellations within the 3 days if it's a storm affected area.

From the AYCJ pass rules:
"A customer traveling on a Pass is subject and entitled to all provisions of JetBlue’s Contract of Carriage except those regarding fare refundability rules, Bill of Rights compensation, and denied boarding compensation."

So if you fly there, there's a mechanical that cancels the flight, you don't get anything other than a rebook on the next flight.

I hear you, but:All good points, though I believe the LCA deal was up for more than an hour; I know I bought a couple, canceled because the dates wouldn't work for the wife and then bought more, which I couldn't have done in one hour.

I agree that value can be derived from the pass, but the value isn't necessarily enormous. I have no idea what the retail value of my tickets purchased thus far actually are. I should probably figure that out (just checked and PSE-LGB on my first big itinerary is already at $624, all on its own!). But there is also no way I'd be buying them at all were it not for the pass, so I'm not sure it translates. Four weekend trips that are listed at $250-$300 each come out for $599 plus the international taxes. You save a couple hundred dollars, but the value also depends on flying multiple weekends in a row. That isn't something that everyone can do. Just getting one trip out of the pass isn't really worth much in most cases.

This is certainly a ton of fun, but I do not think the true value proposition is there as much for most folks.

I have no idea what the retail value of my tickets purchased thus far actually are. ... But there is also no way I'd be buying them at all were it not for the pass, so I'm not sure it translates.

The opportunity cost of these flights (to nowehere?) (the value of your time, if you did not fly), reduces the value further. But if you derive pleasure out of that, than the value is still probably positive.

I'm also wondering, given how large FT is, whether we can draw any conclusions about how many of these B6 is selling, in light of having only ~100 posts on FT. To be certain, B6's motive was partly to get the massive free publicity, and they succeeded on that front, but I am really surprised that this thread is still at ~100 posts.

Must've sold plenty. JetBlue is ending the deal tonight at 10pm Eastern instead of Friday because of the demand.

Well they may be ending it early just to drive some impulse purchases, and maybe to get a little more buzz and publicity going today eg "suddenly, your last day to buy."
I've noticed this week the buzz and publicity has died down a lot so this move might get it going at least a little.

I would have probably bought it for certain if they did not have the $100 cancellation penalty. Say I booked to go to JFK for dinner after work one night, and decided not too at the last minute, I wouldn't want to pay $100.

Other reasons I held off were the rules on even same day changes and to lesser extent the 3 day booking requirement.

Even if they made it all standby for the day of departure would have probably bought it.

I will think about it one more time today. Also did not buy it because it would ding my quallification for elite status on other carriers.

Anyone have any tips on what to do with baggage when not staying in a city overnight (thus not having access to a hotel with a baggage hold)?

Anyone have any tips on what to do with baggage when not staying in a city overnight (thus not having access to a hotel with a baggage hold)?

Don't bring any. ;)

It depends on the airport. JFK has left luggage facilities in T4. Any airport with a hotel attached can be useful as a bellman will almost certainly hold your bag in exchange for a few dollar tip.

Any specific cities that you're concerned with?

Also, several folks who did purchase are being interviewed this afternoon for a piece on time.com. I'll share the link once I have it.

When doing this deal I want to fly from LA area to LAS, but I was wondering if anyone knows the approximate cost to travel from WeHo to either Burbank or Long Beach via one of the van services? Which is closer?

Shoot, if only I could pull Little Callinectes out of school for three weeks. She'd be experiencing Social Studies and Geography first hand! Bummer.

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Any specific cities that you're concerned with?

Thanks for the info - the only city I'll have this issue at is SLC.

Thanks for the info - the only city I'll have this issue at is SLC.

http://www.airwise.com/airports/us/SLC/SLC_08.html says that there are no left luggage facilities at SLC. And the map doesn't show any airports on premises.

Pack light. :p

B6 is only making passes available until 8PM mountain time today, so hurry if you are going to buy a pass.

Stick a fork in it. Just booked another 2 flights. The lady says they sold at at 8:30pm mountain. I'm making last flight form SFO to JFK and then to SAN. I'll say in JFK long enough to get a Big Mac. It seriously is the shortest flight I can find to get from SFO to SAN.

I'll say in JFK long enough to get a Big Mac. It seriously is the shortest flight I can find to get from SFO to SAN.
No McDonalds in T5 - they have much better food choices.

And if you're willing to cross the Bay you can do OAK-LGB-SLC-SAN though I'm not sure what the timing is southbound. I'm doing it north bound on the 26th.

Some AYCJ coverage at time.com. And, yes, I'm the crazy guy they're talking about in the lead. :cool: :eek:

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1917579,00.html

Suddenly remembered with 1h 47m to go last night I had not bought the pass yet......but happy to say have pass will travel :p

No McDonalds in T5 - they have much better food choices.

And if you're willing to cross the Bay you can do OAK-LGB-SLC-SAN though I'm not sure what the timing is southbound. I'm doing it north bound on the 26th.

Tried before I booked the JFK run. Not available for my dates.

Stick a fork in it. Just booked another 2 flights. The lady says they sold at at 8:30pm mountain. I'm making last flight form SFO to JFK and then to SAN. I'll say in JFK long enough to get a Big Mac. It seriously is the shortest flight I can find to get from SFO to SAN.

So they gave a 30 minute extension from the 8:00pm MDT cut-off time, for customers who were on the line. I called them at 7:45pm Eastern and it took me like 6 minutes to reach a Reservations Agent. I was done a little before 8:00pm Eastern, so will be jetting a lot next month!

Tried before I booked the JFK run. Not available for my dates.

No charge for changes as long as they are 3 days out. @:-)

There should be a FT DO using these passes.

There should be a FT DO using these passes.

There are meetups/Dos/things scheduled tentatively in JFK T5 on 9/8 and 10/8 to celebate the promotion. And I'm using it to go to PDX to meet some other FTers on a different MR the first weekend it is active.

There are meetups/Dos/things scheduled tentatively in JFK T5 on 9/8 and 10/8 to celebate the promotion. And I'm using it to go to PDX to meet some other FTers on a different MR the first weekend it is active.

Is there a thread with this info? I didn't see it.

Not FT-specific.

http://www.meetup.com/599Club/calendar/11151453/

but I am really surprised that this thread is still at ~100 posts.

I'm not.

Let's assume that most FTers have a semi-normal job that requires them to work during the week. So they travel / MR on weekends. This pass allows travel for 4 (maybe 5?) weekends. And it costs $600. So about $150 per weekend trip, or more with intl taxes and fees. Now I know you probably aren't going to believe this, but those of us outside of B6-land generally average much much less than $150 per trip for airfare when you factor in our fully loaded travel budget (i.e. value of bumps taken, miles, irrop compensation, etc). On many legacies, there's a big difference between the front-end sticker price that you 'pay', and the 'end of the year cost' to travel after you factor in the benefits and average of all of your trips.

So simply put, the value just isn't there for a lot of savvy FTers. We can do much better elsewhere. But yes, for the FW or SD crowds who don't fly 100k+ per year, it's an attractive gimmick.

I don't know if this was posted before, but intl. taxes are not refundable (back to your credit card). However, Jetblue will give you credit for a future flight/tax. @:-)

Just be aware if you are planning to book all intl. destinations and end up canceling one of them. :)

I don't know if this was posted before, but intl. taxes are not refundable (back to your credit card). However, Jetblue will give you credit for a future flight/tax. @:-)

Just be aware if you are planning to book all intl. destinations and end up canceling one of them. :)

Wow...that sucks. :td:

Good think I didn't go overboard on booking international options.

I don't know if this was posted before, but intl. taxes are not refundable (back to your credit card). However, Jetblue will give you credit for a future flight/tax. @:-)

Just be aware if you are planning to book all intl. destinations and end up canceling one of them. :)

Are you absolutely sure about this? This seems inconsistent with what I know and what I have heard with other airlines.

I don't know if this was posted before, but intl. taxes are not refundable (back to your credit card). However, Jetblue will give you credit for a future flight/tax. @:-)

Just be aware if you are planning to book all intl. destinations and end up canceling one of them. :)

Are you absolutely sure about this? This seems inconsistent with what I know and what I have heard with other airlines.

It may just be the policy of JetBlue. Outside of weather conditions or JetBlue cancelling the flight, Its really hard (though possible) to get them to refund funds. Like any airline, they rather issue time expiring credits.

Like any airline, they rather issue time expiring credits.
Well, maybe if Lufthansa buys a large share they change this - LH cheap nonrefundable fares are virtually refundable within Europe because they refund all taxes and fees including fuel surcharge. It maybe understandable, but it does not sound right - why should the airline expropriate your government taxes.....

Are you absolutely sure about this? This seems inconsistent with what I know and what I have heard with other airlines.

Yes. I've changed my SXM flights to AUA and I was told by the supervisor that the funds cannot go back into my credit card. I was informed that I can only get Jetblue credits for future flight/tax.

I think it's rather absurd that they cannot refund the taxes since I have not even flown yet!

Any good itineraries out there? The most miles I came up with in one day is 10,273. (All flights leave on the same day). The day starts on 9/10 at 12:59AM in DEN and finishes the next day in BOS at 7:40AM.

Here are the Org/Des Flight# Arr-Dep Times Miles
DENJFK 98 00:59-6:31 1,626, JFKSJU 715 7:35-11:24 1,597, SJUMCO 748 12:20-15:19 1,189, MCOJFK 1784 15:47-18:30 944, JFKSEA 83 19:14-22:35 2,421, SEABOS 498 23:29-7:40 2,496

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