Virgin America Elevate - VX begin nonstop from SFO/LAX-FLL

I just found out where VX will begin new nonstop for twice-daily FLL-SFO/LAX. It didn't go to MIA for this time. My source says VX has says a long rumors for FLL instead of MIA. Here the link:

Burlingame's Virgin America, judged by Travel & Leisure magazine as the world's best domestic airline, today rolls out twice-daily nonstop flights from SFO and LAX to Fort Lauderdale, Fla. This in the face of well-known airline and tourism woes.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/10/BU6U196ICF.DTL#ixzz0NqZhgRQu

Hopefully VX will be very successful routes out of SFO/LAX-FLL. Thanks all.

I just found out where VX will begin new nonstop for twice-daily FLL-SFO/LAX. It didn't go to MIA for this time. My source says VX has says a long rumors for FLL instead of MIA. Here the link:



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/10/BU6U196ICF.DTL#ixzz0NqZhgRQu

Hopefully VX will be very successful routes out of SFO/LAX-FLL. Thanks all.

Smart, I think FLL has lost some AA and DL service, particularly transCon routes?

Smart, I think FLL has lost some AA and DL service, particularly transCon routes?

No, DL still served nonstop from FLL-LAX to becoming year-round but, AA is already being dropped nonstop for FLL-LAX due to high cost of the fuel.

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We now have more than one option from SFO to the Miami area!!!!:D
I am very excited about this route because AA is so darn expensive most of the time.
After my last trip I actually prefer FLL over the afternoon mess at MIA

w00h00! ^

No, DL still served nonstop from FLL-LAX to becoming year-round but, AA is already being dropped nonstop for FLL-LAX due to high cost of the fuel.

Good thing VX have a newer, more efficient fleet :)

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We now have more than one option from SFO to the Miami area!!!!:D
I am very excited about this route because AA is so darn expensive most of the time.
After my last trip I actually prefer FLL over the afternoon mess at MIA

Yep, sure they did. I am so exciting news to hear from VX. IT will expect to be announced in the morning. They will get news releases from VX. I am not sure when VX will inaugurate new routes for SFO-FLL. I am not sure which specific time is that. Hope that I will rather try to be on inaugurate flight. I will try to be there at ceremony during these days. You will see the water salutes outside the terminal.

Yep, sure they did. I am so exciting news to hear from VX. IT will expect to be announced in the morning. It will get news releases from VX. I am not sure when VX will inaugurate new routes for SFO-FLL. I am not sure which specific time is that. Hope that I will rather try to be on inaugurate flight. I will try to be there at ceremony during these days.

Looks like 11/18 is the inaugural.
:):):):)

Looks like 11/18 is the inaugural.
:):):):)

Gotcha!! I will try to do bookable the ticket on VX anytime for now.

Tickets are now on sale for an introductory price of $99 each way.

Full press release here: http://www.virginamerica.com/va/press/2009/Aug/Virgin_America_To_Launch_New_Service_To_Fort_Laude rdale.html

San Francisco – August 11, 2009 –Virgin America, the California-based airline that is reinventing domestic travel, today announced it will serve Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport (FLL) with daily non-stop flights from the West Coast beginning Nov. 18, 2009. The South Florida region will be the tenth destination in the airline’s growing network. Virgin America will serve FLL with two daily non-stop roundtrips from San Francisco International Airport (SFO) and two daily non-stop roundtrips from Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). The airline will also offer convenient connecting flights from Seattle, Orange County, San Diego and Las Vegas.

“The South Florida market has always been at the top of our list. It is a world-class destination and an important tourism and business travel market that, until today, was served by little or no non-stop competition from the West Coast,” said Virgin America President and CEO David Cush. “Our business model is focused on population centers where our unique service and amenities resonate with travelers – and we think the South Florida region is a perfect match. With its central, convenient location and modern facilities, we’re pleased to partner with Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport to bring our low-fare, upscale service to this growing market.”

Virgin America’s new service will be the first and only non-stop service from FLL to SFO. Tickets are on sale today on Virgin America’s Web site (www.virginamerica.com) and at 1.877.FLY.VIRGIN * (1.877.359.8474). FLL-SFO and FLL-LAX fares start at $99 one way in Main Cabin, $499 one way in the carrier’s Main Cabin Select premium service, and from $849 in its international-grade First Class cabin.**

FLL is not known for high yield.....

Nope, it's not. But it is a logical transcon destination for VX.

Also, I suspect our moderator is breaking out the champagne, as this was very much a "missing" route for him.

Nope, it's not. But it is a logical transcon destination for VX.

Also, I suspect our moderator is breaking out the champagne, as this was very much a "missing" route for him.

Yes, but it'll have to be the cheap stuff! F class fares are literally twice what I am paying now on CO ($2000 r/t per person SEA-FLL!) I'm currently paying around $3200 for my family of four, and this will be $8,000!

F class fares are literally twice what I am paying now on CO ($2000 r/t per person SEA-FLL!)

Well, you could always go MCS... :p

I also have to wonder if SFO/LAX-FLL can sustain those kinds of F fares if CO is pricing them at half that.

Well, you could always go MCS... :p

I also have to wonder if SFO/LAX-FLL can sustain those kinds of F fares if CO is pricing them at half that.

Yeah, I don't know about SFO/LAX CO fares. I just check SEA.

It will not make a valid connection for FLL-SEA (online). The layovers are too long, I guess.

^ Virgin America. FLL seems to be the logical next city.

All,

Here the new schedules VX will inauguration new routes FLL-SFO/LAX. Here it is:

VX 334 LAX 1045-1830 FLL
VX 342 SFO 1110-1940 FLL
VX 338 LAX 2200-0545 FLL
VX 346 SFO 2340-0800 FLL

VX 331 FLL 0700-0955 LAX
VX 345 FLL 1030-1400 SFO
VX 339 FLL 1920-2215 LAX
VX 349 FLL 2030-2359 SFO

It would be perfect time for connecting the flight in SFO/LAX. I think it's time to need to be stepped it up to begin more expansions new routes SFO-PDX/PHX/MCO/TPA.

I have been waiting for this announcement - I am sooooooooo excited!! Well done VX!

I have been waiting for this announcement - I am sooooooooo excited!! Well done VX!

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It will not make a valid connection for FLL-SEA (online). The layovers are too long, I guess.

They probably will fix that and tweak the SEA timings to make them work. From the press release (http://www.virginamerica.com/va/press/2009/Aug/Virgin_America_To_Launch_New_Service_To_Fort_Laude rdale.html):

Virgin America, the California-based airline that is reinventing domestic travel, today announced it will serve Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport (FLL) with daily non-stop flights from the West Coast beginning Nov. 18, 2009. The South Florida region will be the tenth destination in the airline’s growing network. Virgin America will serve FLL with two daily non-stop roundtrips from San Francisco International Airport (SFO) and two daily non-stop roundtrips from Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). The airline will also offer convenient connecting flights from Seattle, Orange County, San Diego and Las Vegas.

SFO-PDX/PHX/MCO/TPA.

No, some of those do NOT make sense, at all. There's no reason for VX to be flying to 80 bazillion midmarket FL destinations like TPA and MCO when there are some pretty huge holes in their network like ORD and DEN, arguably places like DFW and PHL.

PDX and PHX make sense as (de-facto) tags for transcons- add a short-haul destination from CA to pair with a long-haul to maximize plane hours in the air, though they are also brutal markets for VX to go into, because they are running against the beast of WN and their ability to out-CASM anyone, and in the case of PDX they will also be running against AS/QX. Given that SEA is arguably VX's weakest market, I'm not sure that an even smaller market where WN is an even bigger factor (PDX) is where I'd be sending planes.

jetBlue just announced that they will also be launching FLL-SFO, a day before VX does. B6 is doing 1x daily as a redeye eastbound; no daytime flight.

I truly wonder where the pent up demand for 450 seats in that market has been hiding all this time.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/jetblue-trueblue/984163-jetblue-launch-sfo-fll-november-17-a.html

What a disaster. This should be going to MIA. VX will not find the premium traffic they need from FLL.

And at MIA, they would have been at Concourse J, which is arguably the nicest airport facility in the United States.

What a disaster. This should be going to MIA. VX will not find the premium traffic they need from FLL.

And at MIA, they would have been at Concourse J, which is arguably the nicest airport facility in the United States.

Is MIA really still the premium market in South Florida (http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009/08/ft-lauderdale-feels-airline-love.html)? Most of the money in terms of residents has moved north. The real question is whether the businesses have followed.

Now that Jetblue's jumped in on VX's latest expansion, I wonder if Spirit could do the same thing, add another LAX flight and maybe add SFO. Their product is subpar but they really get annoyed when someone adds flights in their backyard (Exhibit A, Jetblue's FLL flights to Ponce and Aguadilla and subsequent withdrawal). And maybe, Jetblue will add LAX-FLL flights as well.

Why FLL anyhow? Sure, competition was lacking to SFO but surely they figured someone (B6 and/or NK) would add flights also. Philadelphia would be a better market because of no nonstop low cost carrier competition and crummy legacy competition (UA/US domestic products).

Now that Jetblue's jumped in on VX's latest expansion, I wonder if Spirit could do the same thing, add another LAX flight and maybe add SFO. Their product is subpar but they really get annoyed when someone adds flights in their backyard (Exhibit A, Jetblue's FLL flights to Ponce and Aguadilla and subsequent withdrawal). And maybe, Jetblue will add LAX-FLL flights as well.

Why FLL anyhow? Sure, competition was lacking to SFO but surely they figured someone (B6 and/or NK) would add flights also. Philadelphia would be a better market because of no nonstop low cost carrier competition and crummy legacy competition (UA/US domestic products).

Yeah, could NK to be response VX & B6 will have more demand for FLL-SFO. I don't think ever to gets more potential new routes for FLL-SAN yet. it was still to keep ignored for a long time. I think its time to step it in to bring more capacity growth for FLL-SAN but, there is no direct competitive against another airlines yet. I knows FLL-OAK is miserably but, they didn't workout very well due to high cost of the fuel.

Is MIA really still the premium market in South Florida (http://www.wanderingaramean.com/2009/08/ft-lauderdale-feels-airline-love.html)? Most of the money in terms of residents has moved north. The real question is whether the businesses have followed.

No, most of the money has not moved north. The wealthiest areas remain in the centre of the city - the private communities in and around downtown, Fisher Island, Miami Beach and Coral Gables, as well as Avenutra/Sunny Isles. Of those, only Aventura/Sunny Isles is located where both MIA and FLL are fairly equidistant. Further more, the corporate traffic remains in Miami.

MIA-LAX commands a 46% fare premium over FLL-LAX and is 85% larger of a market despite the fare premium. That kind of speaks for itself...

In the end, great news for AA. MIA-LAX and MIA-SFO are the crown jewel of their trans-con network: no competition, average 90% plus loads year-round (only other domestic AA route to do that is ORD-LAS) and more profitable than any other trans-con they serve, including JFK-LAX/SFO. And that success will continue for AA.

No, most of the money has not moved north. The wealthiest areas remain in the centre of the city - the private communities in and around downtown, Fisher Island, Miami Beach and Coral Gables, as well as Avenutra/Sunny Isles. Of those, only Aventura/Sunny Isles is located where both MIA and FLL are fairly equidistant. Further more, the corporate traffic remains in Miami.

Without question, there are wealthy areas in Miami that haven't been too hurt by the recession. But, you certainly can't count out Broward & Palm Beach Counties when it comes to rich folks. One of the benefits of FLL is that it is very accessible, without the traffic headaches that come with MIA. Additionally, all of wealthy Southern Palm Beach County (as in Boca Raton & Delray Beach) uses FLL. The only real exceptions would be international flights.

Also, don't forget about the cruise ships leaving from Port Everglades. Royal Caribbean will be operating it's two 5,400-passenger "Project Genesis" ships from Fort Lauderdale. In doing that, Port Everglades is expected to become the busiest port for cruise passengers. If Virgin and Jet Blue have done their homework, they will have already contacted the cruise lines.

No, most of the money has not moved north. The wealthiest areas remain in the centre of the city - the private communities in and around downtown, Fisher Island, Miami Beach and Coral Gables, as well as Avenutra/Sunny Isles. Of those, only Aventura/Sunny Isles is located where both MIA and FLL are fairly equidistant. Further more, the corporate traffic remains in Miami.

MIA-LAX commands a 46% fare premium over FLL-LAX and is 85% larger of a market despite the fare premium. That kind of speaks for itself...

In the end, great news for AA. MIA-LAX and MIA-SFO are the crown jewel of their trans-con network: no competition, average 90% plus loads year-round (only other domestic AA route to do that is ORD-LAS) and more profitable than any other trans-con they serve, including JFK-LAX/SFO. And that success will continue for AA.

Fisher Island is a tiny community. You can't put that in the same sentence as the others. Miami Beach has high-end *and* low-end. Coral Gables has students and high net worth individuals. You should continue to go north from Aventura, however. Don't forget Golden Beach, the new areas of Hallandale Beach, and most importantly Weston. Those are all well-served by FLL. Even the famously wealthy folks in Boca Raton are used to going down to FLL for their longer flights. PBI is not particularly convenient for them.

What does matter is that the yields are indeed higher at MIA, but that's because of a lack of LCC, not because of the demographic. It will be interesting to see how VX's hybrid model works out.

MIA-LAX commands a 46% fare premium over FLL-LAX and is 85% larger of a market despite the fare premium. That kind of speaks for itself...


And yet fares from FLL are increasing more quickly than those from MIA. AA has a hub fortress in MIA and VX/B6 chose not to attack it. But with non-stop service now showing up outside of MIA there is a very reasonable chance that some of the traffic will, in fact, shift north to FLL. Certainly VX/B6 are hoping that is the case.

BTW, thanks for not calling my comments "garbage" here, too. ;)

What does matter is that the yields are indeed higher at MIA, but that's because of a lack of LCC, not because of the demographic. It will be interesting to see how VX's hybrid model works out.

But yields are higher and, in many markets including West Coast, PDEW is higher. That shows us something. People are willing to pay the premium.

And despite the lack of LCCs, AA matches everything that JetBlue and Southwest do out of FLL. When Southwest had their $30/$60/$90 sale, every single fare was matched out of MIA. When JetBlue has their sales, everything is matched out of MIA. And yet MIA still retains fare premiums.

I'm not saying that the there is no wealth in the other areas. There obviously is. The centre of wealth remains, however, in Miami. Always has, always will.

No, most of the money has not moved north. The wealthiest areas remain in the centre of the city - the private communities in and around downtown, Fisher Island, Miami Beach and Coral Gables, as well as Avenutra/Sunny Isles. Of those, only Aventura/Sunny Isles is located where both MIA and FLL are fairly equidistant. Further more, the corporate traffic remains in Miami.

MIA-LAX commands a 46% fare premium over FLL-LAX and is 85% larger of a market despite the fare premium. That kind of speaks for itself...

In the end, great news for AA. MIA-LAX and MIA-SFO are the crown jewel of their trans-con network: no competition, average 90% plus loads year-round (only other domestic AA route to do that is ORD-LAS) and more profitable than any other trans-con they serve, including JFK-LAX/SFO. And that success will continue for AA.

MIA-LAX commands a premium because AA has a monopoly on that route, while DL/Spirit and Jet Blue all run non-stops to LA from FLL (Jet blue is to Long Beach). AA got rid of their FLL/LAX run due to the competition.

Virgin chose FLL not because of geography or shifts in wealth, they chose FLL because of the lower costs there vs MIA. This is the same reason WN/B6/NK and Allegiant are all at FLL and not MIA.

MIA has very high fees, which are used to soak the various Euro and South American carriers who need to have MIA in their network. The fees of course, are not so good for attracting low cost carriers or additional domestic service.

Not sure how VX will do in FLL, though this doesn't give me high hopes for the DL nonstop lasting much longer...

Also, don't forget about the cruise ships leaving from Port Everglades. Royal Caribbean will be operating it's two 5,400-passenger "Project Genesis" ships from Fort Lauderdale. In doing that, Port Everglades is expected to become the busiest port for cruise passengers. If Virgin and Jet Blue have done their homework, they will have already contacted the cruise lines.


BINGO!

5400 people x 2 ships each week, year round. On average, each plane holds 140 people, thats 77 planes full, each direction every week. Then there is the rest of the normal FLL traffic.

Ironically those ships start sailing November.

One day I hope Lufthansa starts seasonal flights from FRA to FLL, connecting into Jet Blue's Carribbean network....I know..I know..keep on dreaming...

5400 people x 2 ships each week, year round. On average, each plane holds 140 people, thats 77 planes, full each direction every week. Then there is the rest of the normal FLL traffic.

Ironically those ships start sailing November.

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Pretty interesting about the new cruises. Good planning by VX ^

Now if only Royal Carribean could start some cruises to/from Chicago! :D

BINGO!

5400 people x 2 ships each week, year round. On average, each plane holds 140 people, thats 77 planes full, each direction every week. Then there is the rest of the normal FLL traffic.

Ironically those ships start sailing November.

One day I hope Lufthansa starts seasonal flights from FRA to FLL, connecting into Jet Blue's Carribbean network....I know..I know..keep on dreaming...

I doubt it for LH will expected to bring nonstop for FRA-FLL. I do realize know DE is short time from last 8 years ago before 9/11 but, it was being cut service during operating 2x weekly frequencies for FRA-FLL-TPA or RSW. I remember where I saw DE is in FLL every Wednesday & Saturday, too. It must to be requires to cleared Customs & Immigrations in FLL before it will continuation the flight to TPA is final destinations cities.

Pretty interesting about the new cruises. Good planning by VX ^

Now if only Royal Carribean could start some cruises to/from Chicago! :D

Well, nice idea about the cruise ships, but their flight times are TERRIBLE for cruisers (on the SFO route). The 10:30 am flight is too early - flights need to be at least later than 11:00 am (after 12 noon is ideal). The other flight is 7:40 pm - too late for cruisers to hang around. VX was not thinking about cruisers when they picked those flight times. Hopefully, over time, the morning flight will be pushed back later in the day.

Well, nice idea about the cruise ships, but their flight times are TERRIBLE for cruisers (on the SFO route). The 10:30 am flight is too early - flights need to be at least later than 11:00 am (after 12 noon is ideal). The other flight is 7:40 pm - too late for cruisers to hang around. VX was not thinking about cruisers when they picked those flight times. Hopefully, over time, the morning flight will be pushed back later in the day.

I agree with you. It should have to be flexibility the schedules to get better adjustable the time. I think it will try to get later the time to catch the cruise ship in FLL. I think VX flight will have to leave from SFO around 9am and it will get there in FLL sometimes in between 4 or 5pm EST time.

Well, nice idea about the cruise ships, but their flight times are TERRIBLE for cruisers (on the SFO route). The 10:30 am flight is too early - flights need to be at least later than 11:00 am (after 12 noon is ideal). The other flight is 7:40 pm - too late for cruisers to hang around. VX was not thinking about cruisers when they picked those flight times. Hopefully, over time, the morning flight will be pushed back later in the day.


The oasis arrives back into port at 7am officially (9 times out of 10 they are back earlier). I think a 1030am flight is pushing it, but do able (the airport is only a couple of miles away), especially if it is booked as a package via Royal (they will disembark you first and bus you immediately over to the airport).

A good chunk of people stay an extra day pre/post cruise so it may not be as big a deal for the airlines, but I am sure they will adjust on the fly to accomodate the cruisers.

BINGO!

5400 people x 2 ships each week, year round. On average, each plane holds 140 people, thats 77 planes full, each direction every week. Then there is the rest of the normal FLL traffic.

Ironically those ships start sailing November.

One day I hope Lufthansa starts seasonal flights from FRA to FLL, connecting into Jet Blue's Carribbean network....I know..I know..keep on dreaming...

Bingo?

Pretty interesting about the new cruises. Good planning by VX ^

Good planning?

MIA is currently a bigger port and cruise traffic is notoriously low yield. If that is the research VX is hanging their hat on I pray for them.

MIA-LAX commands a premium because AA has a monopoly on that route, while DL/Spirit and Jet Blue all run non-stops to LA from FLL (Jet blue is to Long Beach). AA got rid of their FLL/LAX run due to the competition.

Virgin chose FLL not because of geography or shifts in wealth, they chose FLL because of the lower costs there vs MIA. This is the same reason WN/B6/NK and Allegiant are all at FLL and not MIA.

MIA has very high fees, which are used to soak the various Euro and South American carriers who need to have MIA in their network. The fees of course, are not so good for attracting low cost carriers or additional domestic service.

Not sure how VX will do in FLL, though this doesn't give me high hopes for the DL nonstop lasting much longer...

The cost difference is about $10 per pax. Until now VX has positioned itself as a carrier to business destinations but here they are shying away from the increased cost even though the average fare from SFO to MIA is $22 higher than FLL. (YEQ12009 DOT data)

Bingo?



Good planning?

MIA is currently a bigger port and cruise traffic is notoriously low yield. If that is the research VX is hanging their hat on I pray for them.



The cost difference is about $10 per pax. Until now VX has positioned itself as a carrier to business destinations but here they are shying away from the increased cost even though the average fare from SFO to MIA is $22 higher than FLL. (YEQ12009 DOT data)

Are you sure about the $10 per pax? My sources say it's higher.

Are you sure about the $10 per pax? My sources say it's higher.

My sources are pretty good. Its about $10 _greater_ per pax. FLL costs will likely be increasing as they try and fund their expansion plans. Plus MIA is pretty generous about subsidies for at least the first year.

And despite the lack of LCCs, AA matches everything that JetBlue and Southwest do out of FLL. When Southwest had their $30/$60/$90 sale, every single fare was matched out of MIA. When JetBlue has their sales, everything is matched out of MIA. And yet MIA still retains fare premiums.

YEQ12009

LGAMIA AA $138
LGAFLL B6 $133

Given that MIA is more expensive and AA has a premium cabin and higher employee costs that is pretty unimpressive.

My sources are pretty good. Its about $10 _greater_ per pax. FLL costs will likely be increasing as they try and fund their expansion plans. Plus MIA is pretty generous about subsidies for at least the first year.

Yeah, I knew what you meant, but I hear they are still higher. Perhaps my sources are including gates, but I don't think so.

I would hope that VX got some sort of subsidies from FLL, as well. Otherwise, I'm sure they would have just gone to MIA.

Yeah, I knew what you meant, but I hear they are still higher. Perhaps my sources are including gates, but I don't think so.

I would hope that VX got some sort of subsidies from FLL, as well. Otherwise, I'm sure they would have just gone to MIA.

I hear a rumors where B6 or VX want to be considers for FLL-SEA nonstop is next? Is that true all about need to bring more O/D dailies passengers FLL-SEA for everyday. It will have easier access to connecting the cruise ships in SEA is more convenient instead of going to YVR are very expensive fees in Canada. Its won't work for service to Canada at all. Its doesn't have any weight restrictions due to headwinds over transcons flight from FLL-SEA within 2,600 miles. Let's speculations that I would likely to know about FLL-SEA nonstop is perfect opportunities. In the winter time if A320 will have to stop somewhere in midwest to get refuel the plane. Then it will continuation the flight ongoing to SEA is final destinations cities.

I will get excited when there is a JFK-FLL route. Till then Jet Blue will do nicely for us.

I will get excited when there is a JFK-FLL route. Till then Jet Blue will do nicely for us.

I agree with you. I'm sure VX will ever to bring more specific new route for JFK-FLL is completion B6, DL are already existing service. I doubt it for VX will have to decide own fact. Let's speculations that VX will have to bring more capacity growth in JFK. I knows terminal 4 does not have more new gates space availability. This is limitations slots restrictions in JFK will cause lot of problems due to the congestions.

Why is the LAX-FLL route not offered or in the schedule after March 13?

Because VX doesn't build out their schedules that far. They are like WN that way (which also only has schedules built out to 3/12/2010 as well).

Anyone know the pattern when the schedule will be expanded? Do they normally add 1 month or is it 3 months? I'm looking for flights in April.

Because VX doesn't build out their schedules that far. They are like WN that way (which also only has schedules built out to 3/12/2010 as well).

Not yet. Its should have to be releases the schedules sometime in 2010 timelines. You'll find out anything more specific new schedules to be extendable the date.

Hi All,

Sorry for bump the original thread. I spoke with my friends who work for DL. That he told me where VX will be in terminal 1 along with CO, F9, WN, G4. I think VX will be at old B6 ticket counter space. I think VX will be in the concourse C. So this is better way where VX will be in terminal 1 right next to DL terminal. Also, VX will be handle for DL ramp agents and also VX will working on it for hiring more ticket agents. Thanks all.

Regards