Las Vegas - Palazzo Concierge Level--worth $120???

Hi, all

Planning a trip to Vegas for early November and wll stay at either the Venetian or the Palazzo. Concierge level at the Palazzo is an additional $120 more per night than a regular suite. My question is, are the Concierge amenities worth the money? I would expect to eat breakfast in the lounge, possibly a light lunch/afternoon snack and maybe a cocktail hour drink and some nibbles.

So, what kind of catering is offered? Is the continental breakfast a box of Rice Krispies and some Entemann's pastries? Are the evening hors d'oeuvres pizza rolls, triscuits and cheese whiz, washed down with a glass of Fetzer chardonnay poured from a jug? I'm of course assuming more upscale stuff than this is on offer; could anyone who has been there recently report on any menu specifics?

(BTW, I have searched other threads for this info but didn't find anything as specific as what I'm looking for).

Thanks in advance for your help; I appreciate the info.

Bill.

see HERE (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/11111048-post146.html)

I personally love the lounge, but it was always a free upgrade.

If the lounge weren't comped, would you pay $120 per day and feel that you got your money's worth?

I don't feel it's worth it for $120. I've been offered upgrades from $50-100. Give them a counter-offer. IIRC there was wifi there too (BK correct me if I'm wrong) so that might be of some value to you.

its barely worth $20 more, let alone $120.

If the lounge weren't comped, would you pay $120 per day and feel that you got your money's worth?

Probably not. I can never guarantee that I would get full utilization. While I always stop up in the AM for cappuccino, fruit and wifi; I only utilized the cocktail hour in the evening once (in like 4 trips). So, it would just be too much of an up-charge for my usage, as I could pay for room service and wifi for less.

I 'guess' if you use it for breakfast, free cocktails in the evening, and a small bite a few times a day, it 'might' be worth it -- but, $120 is pretty steep; so you would have to really have to have two people maximizing usage, IMO. To that end, I did get my BIL a free upgrade, and he and a lady friend used the lounge extensively a couple of evenings, so YMMV.

And, set aside, aceman's comment; as it really is quite a nice lounge. Probably on par with a Ritz Carlton type lounge; and definitely one of the best in Vegas.

I don't feel it's worth it for $120. I've been offered upgrades from $50-100. Give them a counter-offer. IIRC there was wifi there too (BK correct me if I'm wrong) so that might be of some value to you.

Yes, there is WiFi. There is also a computer room with quite a few pc's with printers and internet access. It's seldom ever used, so you would have no problem using it as an impromtu business center for internet access and/or printing of boarding passes and confirmations.

seems like macau has opened up some paiza accommodations. has that happened in vegas?

seems like macau has opened up some paiza accommodations. has that happened in vegas?

I've never played at Venetian, but my impression from talking to other players there is that Paiza Club invitations are pretty generous, so I think the exclusivity that some people (esp. media) bat around is trumped up. If you mean "opened up" as in "to the nongambling public", I have no idea on that, though.

I too am considering the Palazzo Concierge level for an upcoming visit to Vegas in September. Sounds good depending upon the price.....

Do room and incidental charges earn Club Grazie points and count towards tier promotion?

Yes - 5 pts per dollar for regular members, 20 pts per dollar for gold and platinum members.

Yes - 5 pts per dollar for regular members, 20 pts per dollar for gold and platinum members.

^ yep, helps to add up them points pretty quickly.

^ yep, helps to add up them points pretty quickly.

Yes - 5 pts per dollar for regular members, 20 pts per dollar for gold and platinum members.

Thank you mwdelta and kingalien for your answers -- this can make Gold fairly attainable..... and most certainly changes some of my calculations used to decide where to stay....

gengar, yeah on another site someone said it used to be $500K LOC and $500/hand, and now its $300K LOC and no hand req. but i got the impression thats the req for the private gaming area.

seems at venetian macau they have 2 bookable paiza accommodations that would get you access to the lounge/F&B/etc.

Thank you mwdelta and kingalien for your answers -- this can make Gold fairly attainable..... and most certainly changes some of my calculations used to decide where to stay....

Not really certain what your expectation is, with regard to Club Grazie Gold; but it's basically a non-starter. The benefits suck, with exception to the greater earning of points; which IIRC get you your free play more rapidly (while earning during machine play). I've found the Venetian/Palazzo gold lounges to be even more pathetic than the Harrah's Diamond Lounges in Vegas (and, that's not something that's easy to accomplish ;) ) Though, I will admit that the gold lounge access hours are better than the diamond lounge hours in the Harrah's Vegas market.

You really need to reach Platinum to attain any 'real' status. Benefits such as Invited Guest Check-in are available on any comp offers, and nobody really cares if you use that check-in desk anyway, YMMV. Considering gold = 30,000 points and platinum = 600,000 points; the difference between gold and platinum really separates the 'men from the boys' with regard to status @ V/P. Most of the benefits that come along with Club Grazie Gold are basically 'feel good vapor.'

Of course, confirmed Concierge Level allows you to AVOID the front desk altogether, and check-in right past the front entrance, with the special Concierge Level check-in agent. (@ Palazzo)

Also, FWIW, you can status match to Club Grazie Gold from Harrah's Diamond.

gengar, yeah on another site someone said it used to be $500K LOC and $500/hand, and now its $300K LOC and no hand req. but i got the impression thats the req for the private gaming area.

seems at venetian macau they have 2 bookable paiza accommodations that would get you access to the lounge/F&B/etc.

As as aside, ;);)

Since this is FlyerTalk, and most are concerned with maximizing offers, which in this case would be comps....

Private gaming is basically stupid, since you are setting yourself up in a situation where there are very few other, if any players @ your table. While, this might sound all "elite" and "cool" --- it's actually pretty bad, since you will be playing (and wagering) more hands per hour. Even worse, at a game like baccarat, where if you are the only player you will be wagering on almost every hand (with exception to your 'free hands' -- but, you can only do so many 'free hands' before they start to count against you with regard to average bet).

And, with a negative expectation game, which they all are, the more you wager, the more you lose. (in the long run)

Just something to keep in mind. ;)

Though, most that are wagering @ this level are idiots, and quite frankly it's not particularly impressive that one will walk away with thousands in comps for tens of thousands (or more) of losses. :D

Benefits such as Invited Guest Check-in are available on any comp offers, and nobody really cares if you use that check-in desk anyway, YMMV.I'm a low-roller (only about halfway to gold after 3 trips). I've gotten dozens of comp offers. None mentioned the "invited guest check-in" option. I agree w/ you that it's not really a great benefit, but I have had to stand in line for 15+ minutes before while there was no line at the invited checkin desk.

Considering gold = 30,000 points and platinum = 600,000 points; the difference between gold and platinum really separates the 'men from the boys' with regard to status @ V/P.Actually, it's more like it's separating the men from insane sums of cash ;)

The concierge level would be worth $120 only if you spent all your time there trying to utilize it to the max...........

I'm a low-roller (only about halfway to gold after 3 trips). I've gotten dozens of comp offers. None mentioned the "invited guest check-in" option. I agree w/ you that it's not really a great benefit, but I have had to stand in line for 15+ minutes before while there was no line at the invited checkin desk.


The invited guest check-in option is supposed to be announced to you during your reservation process, particularly if you go through casino marketing. If you use a host to set up the reservation, he/she just assumes you know so they won't say it. I find it sometimes quicker just to go through the regular check-in line.

I've found the Venetian/Palazzo gold lounges to be even more pathetic than the Harrah's Diamond Lounges in Vegas (and, that's not something that's easy to accomplish ;) )

Agreed, basically it's a lounge with a couple of TVs, newspapers, soft drinks, coffee, cheese, fruit and bread. Used to be they have some breakfast items available but no more.

re paiza

im not a gambler.

if its bookable, id look at F&B value. (and total value) my understanding is its free restaurant gourmet stuff in lounges/etc.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21002350@N08/sets/72157607383682209/
http://www.sands.com.mo/pclub_privilege.asp
http://www.venetianmacao.com/en/show/the_florence_suite

The concierge level would be worth $120 only if you spent all your time there trying to utilize it to the max...........

Which would probably mean that two people would have to take advantage of the happy hour (cocktails) to the maximum.

Agreed, basically it's a lounge with a couple of TVs, newspapers, soft drinks, coffee, cheese, fruit and bread. Used to be they have some breakfast items available but no more.

Yes, it's so sad that many of the VIP lounges are not particularly VIP.

I must say, I do like the Wynn Tower Suites RFB Lounge; and the fact that there is always NV Champagne available. I've also heard good things about the new Bellagio lounge, though I have no first hand knowledge.

Harrah's has managed to destroy whatever value there was in the diamond lounges in Vegas by severely restricting hours and limiting a number of premium liquors. It's really a shame. Though, the bar @ the Paris diamond lounge is still lovely.

As far as I know, the Atlantic City Harrah's lounges @ Caesars and Bally's with their sweeping ocean views and extended hours until midnight on Friday and Saturday nights are probably two of the best in the country. But, they have also suffered from the cutbacks (namely on again-off again premium liquor selection). But, the 'old school' bartenders, many of whom were hired when Caesars AC first opened make up for the limited selection of beverage.

re paiza

im not a gambler.

if its bookable, id look at F&B value. (and total value) my understanding is its free restaurant gourmet stuff in lounges/etc.

It would be my 'hope' that they don't make it bookable.

If I was a 'player' on the platinum level (or above) @ V/P, I wouldn't be particularly happy with guests 'buying' their way into the Paiza lounge. ;)

Though, I am quite fond of the 'media suites' @ Palazzo. Those are really cool! :cool::cool:

I must say, I do like the Wynn Tower Suites RFB Lounge; and the fact that there is always NV Champagne available. I've also heard good things about the new Bellagio lounge, though I have no first hand knowledge.

I have no serious complaints about the Bellagio lounge, although the quality of the food and liquor offerings has certainly decreased since it first opened. And since I can get better alcohol and better food for free elsewhere, there's little reason to stay - especially since the limited seating areas in the lounge get rather crowded, particularly near typical check-in/check-out times. It's still a nice spot to grab a couple water bottles on the way to the room or on the way out.

I will say I've never had to wait during check-in, which I suppose is the important point of a VIP check-in lounge.


If I was a 'player' on the platinum level (or above) @ V/P, I wouldn't be particularly happy with guests 'buying' their way into the Paiza lounge. ;)

Hey, if it keeps the lounge open... but yeah, I agree that offering VIP perks for outright purchase isn't good for keeping VIPs.

The invited guest check-in option is supposed to be announced to you during your reservation process, particularly if you go through casino marketing. If you use a host to set up the reservation, he/she just assumes you know so they won't say it. I find it sometimes quicker just to go through the regular check-in line.Too low of a roller to have a host :)

Called tonight to book a Club Grazie promo offer. Without asking, she told me I could use invited guest check-in "so your check-in process doesn't become a process" :p

no it is not worth $120. We recently were here and went to it. I've seen better breakfasts at quality inn. So you get breakfast, coffee (6am - 10pm i think) -- which is $3/cup elsewhere in the hotel, the noon-4pm presentation was a joke -- it was like cookies and scones.

The evening presentations weren't bad for snacks, but nothing to fill up on -- the open bar is nice, but its tough to drink $100 worth of drinks.

The dvd library exists so I have heard -- never found it.

The conceriege services being available right there is cool, but i'm pretty sure anyone stopping on floor 23 can go talk to those people.

If you had 4 people in your room, then it might be worth while.

Internet is free in the lounge -- just bring your laptop and your good to go.