Miles & More (Lufthansa, Austrian, Swiss, and other partners) - Quick help needed: Which award level for NA-Hawaii award in 2-class UA flight?

I have got a quick question for you.

I would like to make an award booking LAX-HNL-LAX on United Airlines, in F class (2-cabin aircraft), using M&M miles. The award chart for M&M awards from North America to Hawaii says 40k/60k/100k for Y/C/F class.

Within North America there is the rule that - on 2 cabin aircraft with only F/Y - the award level for C-class would apply.

Now I get conflicting information from M&M agents regarding the NA-Hawaii award: Some agents claim that on flights from North America to Hawaii, the "new rule" is that even on 2-cabin aircraft the normal F-award level is required for the F-cabin (i.e. 100k miles, not 60k miles!).

Is that really true!? It does not make much sense to me (e.g., if I would book a three-region-award from Germany to Hawaii in business class, I would be allowed to sit in the F-cabin for the segment NA-Hawaii, the same agents say).

The F service to Hawaii is not worth the extra miles over Y in this case.
You are looking at a 5hr flight and it is bearable in Y or E+ at least.
The UA F on 2-class is the US domestic config which is a bit like LH old BC on A300, and the service is... UA:rolleyes:
Don't even expect much of a meal either.
One idea is to score a cheap Y rev tix and try a M&M upgrade for one leg so you can experience the extra comfort where you need it.

Also an UA award to Hawaii in F is next to impossible to get as this is where many UA MP members love to burn their plentiful miles.

Availability of award seats to Hawaii actually is not too bad at all. Lots of choice both in economy and first class for August, for example. Seats for about half of the dates in August.

Regarding my original mileage question: It seems that M&M is now indeed charging a full 100k F-award for an F-award ticket in two cabin aircrafts to Hawaii, and not 60k anymore. This is a joke, and absolutely non-competitive towards Skyteam and Oneworld (where the required mileage is around 60K for "first").

So I booked a Y-award for 40k instead.

Calflyer, you are absolutely right. Redeeming 100K for this segment would be insane. Imagine this is 10K more than a TATL in real C as opposed to a let-down UA domestic "F".
I once bought a cheap Y tix on this segment and did a M&M F upg on the night flight redeeming 15K which is bearable. But even then you hardly get what you pay for.