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jtraveller
Jun 18, 09, 6:56 pm
Hi there,

Have been reading this forum for a while, but first post here. :)

I have read of the many cheap ex-TPE CX flights that are available and have actually picked up an ultra-cheap J ticket (TPE-CEB). I will be flying into TPE from Japan with JAL this time.

However in the future I am planning to purchase some more cheap J flights from TPE. I want to check whether there any problems with flying into TPE on CX from Japan and then transitting onto the cheap ex-TPE J flight itinerary. I would then return back to TPE completing the ex-TPE J itinerary before transitting back onto the return leg to Japan from the original ex-Japan ticket.

Does this cause any issues with CX? I assume as I'm on different airlines this time, it's not so much of an issue, but thought it might be if it is all CX.

Thanks!
J


Wasabi Tofu
Jun 18, 09, 9:10 pm
Wlecome to FlyerTalk

Your itinerary has no problem.

By the way, probably you know,
CX holidays Japan provides cheap J fare via HKG to some destinations.
see
http://www.cathayholidays.co.jp/chj/en/homepage

neuro0
Jun 18, 09, 9:15 pm
no problem at all. They should be glad you are paying for the J tickets in this time period.


jtraveller
Jun 18, 09, 9:16 pm
Thanks for the quick response. That's good to know.

Yes - noted the cheap ex-JP flights on CX holidays as well. Looks like a flight down to Australia in October is going to be v cheap!

Cheers!
J

irwin8417
Jun 18, 09, 9:38 pm
Its better take down CX Airport office number,I found few times the transit counter is empty.
I need call the office,check-in agent will come to the counter and hand boarding pass to me.
CX airport office 886 (3) 398-2501 / 2

tedhl
Jun 18, 09, 9:53 pm
yes that's quite often the case, that the CX transit in Taipei is empty...and, there's note that asking you to call them using the internal phone there, but usually that doesn't work either. nice to know about this phone number now.

but for now I usually do turnaround at TPE instead of real transit - so I just ask at HKG check-in to print the return boarding pass too. I think the OP could try getting his boarding pass in Japan too - not sure if it'd work, but could try...

RickyT
Jun 23, 09, 7:51 am
Interstingly, when I travelled on CX 530 to TPE earlier this month, there was a ground staff waiting at the arrival gate asking for 'anyone going to Hong Kong'. I was initally confused since we just came in from HKG but I suspect they knew there would an odd pax here and there who would take advantage of the cheaper ex-TPE fares and turnaround at TPE (presumbly the pax will take the next CX flight back to HKG which was sitting at the gate next to us).

cxlover
Jul 20, 09, 11:24 pm
Hi all

If I am just doing the transfer in TPE, do I need to obtain the Visa to Taiwan?

Thanks for your advice.

hemz88
Jul 21, 09, 1:10 am
Hi all

If I am just doing the transfer in TPE, do I need to obtain the Visa to Taiwan?

Thanks for your advice.

If you are entitled to Visa on Arrival, then you don't since you can just go thru transit. If not, then you will need a Visa beforehand.

b950022
Jul 21, 09, 1:17 am
i believe you don't, what passport do you hold?

cxlover
Jul 21, 09, 1:41 am
i believe you don't, what passport do you hold?

I am holding the HKSAR passport, so I guess I can obtain the Visa on arrival. That means I don't need to get the Visa and then quickly go through the transfer upon arrival in TPE?

Btw, thank you very much for yours prompt reply!

b950022
Jul 23, 09, 10:21 pm
I am holding the HKSAR passport, so I guess I can obtain the Visa on arrival. That means I don't need to get the Visa and then quickly go through the transfer upon arrival in TPE?

Btw, thank you very much for yours prompt reply!
cxlover...this is what i found.. hope this helps

TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Those passengers continuing their

journey to a third country by the same or connecting aircraft

on the same day of their arrival, provided:
a. holding tickets with confirmed seats and other travel

documents required for their onward journey; and
b. not leaving the transit lounge unless under observation of

an immigration guard. Passengers arriving after midnight must

be escorted by the carrier to the transit hotel. If passengers
want to stay in the transit lounge permission from the police
bureau must be obtained (to be arranged by the carrier); and
c. the receiving carrier is advised of the passengers' names
and connecting flight number and destination, prior to

passengers' arrival. (When passengers' manifest is dispatched
by cable, the code of "TWOV" should be marked together with
the connecting flight number and destination. For connection

the time interval of at least 60 minutes is necessary, and

TWOV shall not be granted for connection less than 60

minutes).
- Transit hotel is only available for Eva Airways (BR) and
China Airlines (CI) passengers.

Wasabi Tofu
Jul 23, 09, 10:35 pm
Onewolrd.com has good reference for VISA requirements.

http://www.oneworld.com/ow/airports-and-destinations/visa-and-health-information

irwin8417
Jul 23, 09, 10:59 pm
CX ex-TPE business class on sale now.

I just issued ticket to NRT,KIX return for $17500.
To Manila only $8200.:D

kaka
Jul 24, 09, 12:00 am
CX ex-TPE business class on sale now.

I just issued ticket to NRT,KIX return for $17500.
To Manila only $8200.:D

TWD? I realized this could also be an expensive HKD J ticket....

irwin8417
Jul 24, 09, 1:45 am
TWD? I realized this could also be an expensive HKD J ticket....

Yeah TWD!!

jiaotze
Jul 24, 09, 3:40 am
Indeed, they announced a sale on J class about a week ago for departure before end-August.

I noticed that TPE-BKK is only NT$12,000+ (not including taxes). TPE-LAX/SFO is nearly NT$74,000 (not including taxes), which is over NT$13,000 less than what they were offering previously.

Excellent fares for August, a month that is not known for attractive fares.

jtraveller
Jul 25, 09, 9:13 am
Even thereafter the flights seem like they are pretty cheap. Looked at SFO in december and is still TWD79k. Great stuff!

grimani
Jul 29, 09, 10:34 pm
sorry - how do ex-TPE tickets work and why are they a steal?

cxfan1960
Jul 29, 09, 11:49 pm
sorry - how do ex-TPE tickets work and why are they a steal?

Go to CX web page and select Taiwan as the site. Go the "Manage Your Trip" -> "Online Booking" -> "Flight Booking". You can get very reasonable busniess class fares. TPE-SFO round trip for about TWD80K (~USD2500).

MilesBuzz
Jul 30, 09, 3:47 am
One minor question: stopover at HKG is allowed for an additional TWD1,500. Previously, the online booking system had an option which allows us to enter the number of days we want to stopover in HKG. But this time round, the option is no longer available. Must we call in to CX Taipei office to request for the stopover? Or we can do so after the ticket is issued and pay the additional TWD1,500 after ticket issuance?

jiaotze
Jul 30, 09, 4:04 am
Another real perk to the ex-TPE fares are the low fares that CX charges to extend one’s flights domestically in the US on AA. For instance, I frequently fly to STL, connecting via SFO or LAX. CX charges TWD2,500 each leg (to STL and then back to the West Coast is a total of TWD5,000) in Economy Class or TWD5,000 each leg in First Class (a total of TWD10,000). That First Class price for SFO/LAX-STL-SFO/LAX is cheaper than buying a separate ticket from AA for that route in Economy Class!

I don't know whether those fares charged for the AA legs by CX vary depending on the city pairs.

sutrakhk
Jul 30, 09, 7:20 am
One minor question: stopover at HKG is allowed for an additional TWD1,500. Previously, the online booking system had an option which allows us to enter the number of days we want to stopover in HKG. But this time round, the option is no longer available. Must we call in to CX Taipei office to request for the stopover? Or we can do so after the ticket is issued and pay the additional TWD1,500 after ticket issuance?

Just use the multi-city option and evrything will be ok.

MilesBuzz
Jul 30, 09, 8:28 am
Just use the multi-city option and evrything will be ok.

Thanks :) I tried it just now and it does work. I-class tix ex-TPE to destinations in INA even cheaper than buying V-class fares from HKG.

grimani
Jul 30, 09, 11:25 am
so if TPE-SFO is cheap, but i'm in HKG i basically need to buy my own HKG-TPE leg on a separate itinerary?

do ex-TPE flights basically all need to originate from TPE?

thanks

TerryK
Jul 30, 09, 11:30 am
....do ex-TPE flights basically all need to originate from TPE?...

:confused: ex-TPE means originate from TPE. :confused:

Do originate from TPE tickets need to originate from TPE? Yes. :p

CX offers lower fares from TPE as CX service requires a connection in HKG, it is not as convenient as nonstops offered by CI/BR.

KO2546
Jul 30, 09, 11:32 am
do ex-TPE flights basically all need to originate from TPE? Yes. You can't skip the first sector if that's what you are asking. You can forfeit the last sector (HKG-TPE) if you wish but many would save it for their next ex-TPE flight.

It's really down to how much you value 5 hours of time because that's what it takes to do the turn-around trip.

MilesBuzz
Jul 30, 09, 11:01 pm
Yes. You can't skip the first sector if that's what you are asking. You can forfeit the last sector (HKG-TPE) if you wish but many would save it for their next ex-TPE flight.

It's really down to how much you value 5 hours of time because that's what it takes to do the turn-around trip.

You have summarized it well :)
I have done 2 ex-TPE trips and enjoying the cheaper tix thus far. I will embark on at least 2 ex-TPE I fares to INA destinations to make sure I requalify for GOLD again.

socalterp
Jul 31, 09, 11:29 am
Another real perk to the ex-TPE fares are the low fares that CX charges to extend one’s flights domestically in the US on AA. For instance, I frequently fly to STL, connecting via SFO or LAX. CX charges TWD2,500 each leg (to STL and then back to the West Coast is a total of TWD5,000) in Economy Class or TWD5,000 each leg in First Class (a total of TWD10,000). That First Class price for SFO/LAX-STL-SFO/LAX is cheaper than buying a separate ticket from AA for that route in Economy Class!

I don't know whether those fares charged for the AA legs by CX vary depending on the city pairs.

Interesting...how do you book these? Looking at some random dates in August, seeing 73,000NTD TPE-LAX R/T, but about 119,000 TPE-STL R/T (in business) Do you have to multi-city and book them as separate legs? I'm using Cathayusa.com

If price was something like 83,000NTD TPE-STL, that would be just a little more than using a combination of Eva/AA in economy deluxe/AA Y from Taipeim which would be a no brainer.

jiaotze
Jul 31, 09, 8:12 pm
socalterp,

I don't think you can book those AA segments via CX's Internet booking engine. I've always called a CX ticketing agent in TPE, who will make the booking and provide the quote based on the city pair involved.

I was recently quoted about TWD88,000 (including about TWD5,000 in taxes) for a TPE-SFO-STL-LAX-TPE itinerary.

It is also my understanding that if your CX flight is in Economy Class, the extended domestic legs on AA can only be booked in Economy, while if your CX flight is in Business Class, the domestic legs on AA can only be booked in First Class (if it is a only a two-class aircraft).

gbkid202
Aug 2, 09, 11:19 pm
You have summarized it well :)
I have done 2 ex-TPE trips and enjoying the cheaper tix thus far. I will embark on at least 2 ex-TPE I fares to INA destinations to make sure I requalify for GOLD again.

Wait so do you guys prefer Open Ticket for HKG-TPE Return, then fit in the slot between with TPE-SFO(viaHKG)-TPE??

Being here to work and based in Hong Kong, I still have to commute between TPE and SFO, after 10months I still cannot work out what is the best. Anyone could suggest something for me, this is something look like to happen for the next 12 months. I will continue to base in HKG, I will be in TPE for 1 or 2 weeks per month, then each quarter needs to be SFO.

I have been doing HKG/TPE HKG/TPE HKG/TPE/HKG/SFO/HKG.... some how i wish I just live in the airport...

MilesBuzz
Aug 3, 09, 12:16 am
Wait so do you guys prefer Open Ticket for HKG-TPE Return, then fit in the slot between with TPE-SFO(viaHKG)-TPE??

Being here to work and based in Hong Kong, I still have to commute between TPE and SFO, after 10months I still cannot work out what is the best. Anyone could suggest something for me, this is something look like to happen for the next 12 months. I will continue to base in HKG, I will be in TPE for 1 or 2 weeks per month, then each quarter needs to be SFO.

I have been doing HKG/TPE HKG/TPE HKG/TPE/HKG/SFO/HKG.... some how i wish I just live in the airport...

I usually reedem for the HKG-TPE-HKG route because its an open 1 year ticket that you can change anytime you like.

So, it's usually:
HKG-TPE (start of the redemption ticket)
TPE-XXX-HKG (break off the I-class tix at HKG first...long-haul usually has 6 mths to 1 year validity I believe)
HKG-TPE (continue the last unused portion of the I-class tix)
TPE-XXX-HKG (second ticket...and so on)
and the cycle continues...until the redemption ticket expires in 6 mths/1 year (depending on your travelling needs)
then....
TPE-HKG (end of the redemption ticket).

chang9121990
Aug 3, 09, 6:34 am
Oh I just love living in Taipei.
Booked 3 J tickets to BKK for about NT$14,000 each.
HKG-BKK r/t costs almost HK$5k in HK!

Senoir flyer
Aug 4, 09, 12:51 am
One of my friends flew recently HKG-TPE for a short meeting and was planning to continue TPE-SFO within 3 hours after his arrival.

At TPE immigration he was told that he has to stay at least 5 hours before he could leave the coutry again.

Has anybody experienced the same? Do they really enforce this policy?

If so, this could be a warning for those who are not planning to use the transfer counter, in order to collect some more "souvenier" stamps in their passports.

Cheers

Sen

Fly Me To The Moon
Aug 5, 09, 12:49 am
You can forfeit the last sector (HKG-TPE) if you wish but many would save it for their next ex-TPE flight.

I'm just looking for some clarification on this comment that the last sector can be forfeited. I'm looking to book the TPE-LAX (via HKG) ticket which does not allow outbound and inbound stopovers. I would like to end my return trip in Hong Kong and am willing to forfeit the last HKG-TPE sector. What about checked-in luggage? Must the agent in LAX check in my luggage all the way to TPE, or can I just tell them that I will not use the last sector and get my luggage tagged to HKG instead?

christep
Aug 5, 09, 1:05 am
Tell them that you need access to your luggage in HK to deliver something to a friend while in transit there.

Fly Me To The Moon
Aug 5, 09, 8:25 am
Tell them that you need access to your luggage in HK to deliver something to a friend while in transit there.

So, I assume that means the LAX agent will still give me a HKG-TPE boarding pass, but I just don't show up for that flight upon my arrival LAX-HKG?

christep
Aug 5, 09, 9:27 am
Correct.

sutrakhk
Aug 5, 09, 12:10 pm
One of my friends flew recently HKG-TPE for a short meeting and was planning to continue TPE-SFO within 3 hours after his arrival.

At TPE immigration he was told that he has to stay at least 5 hours before he could leave the coutry again.

Has anybody experienced the same? Do they really enforce this policy?

If so, this could be a warning for those who are not planning to use the transfer counter, in order to collect some more "souvenier" stamps in their passports.

Cheers

Sen

I did the TG600/607 turnaround last month and got out to the Aviation Museum, back airside in 3.5 hours, no problem.

MilesBuzz
Aug 5, 09, 7:21 pm
So, I assume that means the LAX agent will still give me a HKG-TPE boarding pass, but I just don't show up for that flight upon my arrival LAX-HKG?

I actually forgo the HKG-TPE leg during my first ex-TPE trip....thinking back, it's a rather waste of money because I wasted the HKG-TPE (D-class it was at that time), and TPE-HKG (V-class, but still rather expensive as it's ex-HKG).

In the future (including the current HKG-TPE that I am still holding for the CDG trip during Easter), I will travel to TPE and stay for at least a night...just take it as a quick getaway.

83914673
Aug 12, 09, 12:12 pm
One of my friend lives in HK and decided to go to Brisbane to see his son
I told him start his trip from TPE, so he flew here for a two day tour in Taipei then bound for BNE
It cost about NTD 71k(HKG-TPE 1-way J HKD 4k(NTD 16k), TPE-HKG-BNE-HKG-TPE J NTD 55k)

Great deal compare to HKG-BNE-HKG which cost HKD 27k(which is NTD 115k)
Plus, he got himself a two day tour in TPE

Consider a tour in TPE if you want to do an ex-TPE

MilesBuzz
Aug 12, 09, 7:49 pm
Consider a tour in TPE if you want to do an ex-TPE

Well, for someone who has not visited TPE before, it's probably an option. For most of us, we just want to get it done and over with quickly :D

But most of the time, I do stay one night in the hotel nearby the Airport. Just to pass the night...

Jane's Addiction
Aug 12, 09, 8:23 pm
But most of the time, I do stay one night in the hotel nearby the Airport. Just to pass the night...


Which one? I need one next week. Have only done the Monarch Plaza before. Would love to find another option.

MilesBuzz
Aug 13, 09, 5:08 am
Which one? I need one next week. Have only done the Monarch Plaza before. Would love to find another option.

The CitySuites Gateway Hotel which is just less than 10 mins taxi-ride from the Airport. Rate is a reasonable one at TWD$2,400. Where's Monarch Plaza anyway? I know that there's also a Holiday Inn Express at Taoyuan, but it's around 15-20 mins ride.

coolfish1103
Aug 13, 09, 6:52 pm
One of my friends flew recently HKG-TPE for a short meeting and was planning to continue TPE-SFO within 3 hours after his arrival.

At TPE immigration he was told that he has to stay at least 5 hours before he could leave the coutry again.

Has anybody experienced the same? Do they really enforce this policy?

This is enforced. You are not allowed to enter Taiwan if you have a transit time that is less than 5 hours. You don't have to tell the immigration that you are leaving within 5 hours (so they will let you in). However, whether the immigration will find out you are leaving later within 5 hours is another story.

christep
Aug 13, 09, 9:32 pm
How bizarre! I entered and exited Taiwan within 30 minutes on more than one occasion a few years back. Never any problem. Is this a new rule?

TerryK
Aug 13, 09, 9:42 pm
This is enforced. You are not allowed to enter Taiwan if you have a transit time that is less than 5 hours...

How long ago was that? :confused:

My understanding is that it was a system issue. The immigration system was a batch system. Your entry data may not have been updated in time for your exit. They cannot process your exit immigration if there is no entry record as the system cannot tell how you have entered Taiwan (did you come in a speedboat at night? :p). I believe this issue has been resolved by system upgrade.

coolfish1103
Aug 13, 09, 9:54 pm
June 2009.

I wasn't the one in question, but the lady in front of me was the one that had the problem because she asked them if it's enough time to enter when she has 5 hours till the next flight... and then she was refused an entry where the immigration officer told her she won't have enough time to get to the city and be back for her flight. She was later directed to the transit desk by the immigration manager.

TerryK
Aug 13, 09, 10:45 pm
.......she asked them if it's enough time to enter when she has 5 hours till the next flight.....

That sounds more like a good advise than refuses entry. ;)

Many travelers don't realize that it takes one hour or more to get to downtown Taipei by bus, considering traffic and waiting time. You need to be back at least one hour prior to departure. 5 hours is barely enough time to go to downtown and back, let alone doing any sightseeing.@:-)

Jane's Addiction
Aug 16, 09, 11:12 pm
The CitySuites Gateway Hotel which is just less than 10 mins taxi-ride from the Airport. Rate is a reasonable one at TWD$2,400. Where's Monarch Plaza anyway? I know that there's also a Holiday Inn Express at Taoyuan, but it's around 15-20 mins ride.


Thanks. It is somewhere in Taoyuan, but pretty rundown lats time I stayed there. May have been renovated since. used by a lot of the airlines.

Sohoboy
Aug 17, 09, 12:41 am
The CitySuites Gateway Hotel which is just less than 10 mins taxi-ride from the Airport. Rate is a reasonable one at TWD$2,400. .

Yes, City Suite is convenient but taxi driver would never go by meter because of that short distance. Standard price they quote are between 200-250 NTD per trip which I think is a complete rip off:mad: Unfortunately there is no other alternative to go :td:

patrickcx
Aug 17, 09, 5:12 am
Yes, City Suite is convenient but taxi driver would never go by meter because of that short distance. Standard price they quote are between 200-250 NTD per trip which I think is a complete rip off:mad: Unfortunately there is no other alternative to go :td:

The metre fare is NTD165. Try bargaining with them.

MilesBuzz
Aug 17, 09, 6:14 am
The metre fare is NTD165. Try bargaining with them.

The last time I ordered the taxi, I can negotiate the price to below NT$200. Roughly around NT$175.

IncyWincy
Aug 18, 09, 7:57 am
duplicated

IncyWincy
Aug 18, 09, 7:58 am
One minor question: stopover at HKG is allowed for an additional TWD1,500. Previously, the online booking system had an option which allows us to enter the number of days we want to stopover in HKG. But this time round, the option is no longer available. Must we call in to CX Taipei office to request for the stopover? Or we can do so after the ticket is issued and pay the additional TWD1,500 after ticket issuance?

I just tried a sample booking on CX's Taiwan site for a simple ex-tpe with stopover i HKG (see below). Instead of charging an addtional TWD1,500 it is TWD 181K+ for tpe-hkg-lax return! Am I doing it the wrong way?

18 Sep CX451 TPE 19:35 HKG 21:15 0 1:40 Business (J)
23 Sep CX882 HKG 16:15 LAX 14:15 0 13:00 Business (J)
26 Sep CX881 LAX 01:50 HKG 07:25 +1 14:35 Business (D)
27 Sep CX402 HKG 18:40 TPE 20:20 0 1:40 Business D)

TerryK
Aug 18, 09, 8:33 am
I just tried a sample booking on CX's Taiwan site for a simple ex-tpe with stopover i HKG (see below). Instead of charging an addtional TWD1,500 it is TWD 181K+ for tpe-hkg-lax return! Am I doing it the wrong way?

18 Sep CX451 TPE 19:35 HKG 21:15 0 1:40 Business (J)
23 Sep CX882 HKG 16:15 LAX 14:15 0 13:00 Business (J)
26 Sep CX881 LAX 01:50 HKG 07:25 +1 14:35 Business (D)
27 Sep CX402 HKG 18:40 TPE 20:20 0 1:40 Business D)

D/I fares only allow HKG stopover on the inbound (return). Stopping on the outbound forces it to price at full J fare.@:-)

stefan.aerts
Aug 18, 09, 8:50 am
Which one? I need one next week. Have only done the Monarch Plaza before. Would love to find another option.


Stick with Monarch, suites hotel is a total dump and they dont even have a shuttle bus, they send a car over and charge you, the rooms stink of ciagrettes and many people stay up all night drinking 10 to a room waiting for early flights

IncyWincy
Aug 18, 09, 9:56 am
D/I fares only allow HKG stopover on the inbound (return). Stopping on the outbound forces it to price at full J fare.@:-)

Thanks.

Just tried a sample TPE-SFO that only stops in HKG for return and still returned TWD 200K+ as it yielded J fare (despite I fare being available - see itin below). Does anyone know why I fare not available?

18 Dec CX565 TPE 14:15 HKG 16:05 0 14:45 777 eTicket Business (J)
18 Dec CX872 HKG 17:05 SFO 13:00 0 744 eTicket Business (J)
01 Jan CX873 SFO 00:05 HKG 06:50 +1 0 14:45 744 eTicket Business (I)
07 Feb CX530 HKG 09:20 TPE 10:55 0 1:35 330 eTicket Business (J)

pacificboot
Aug 18, 09, 11:05 am
D/I fares only allow HKG stopover on the inbound (return). Stopping on the outbound forces it to price at full J fare.@:-)

I don't believe ex-TPE D/I fare allows stopover at all. J fare kicks in for any stopover. That is why the op probably did not yield any I fare.

IncyWincy
Aug 18, 09, 12:00 pm
I don't believe ex-TPE D/I fare allows stopover at all. J fare kicks in for any stopover. That is why the op probably did not yield any I fare.

But see posts 23 and 24 - stopover allowed!

coolfish1103
Aug 18, 09, 1:28 pm
That sounds more like a good advise than refuses entry. ;)

Well, she wanted to enter regardless of the time but was refused, so I would call it a refuse entry.

Rejuvenated
Aug 18, 09, 1:32 pm
CX offers lower fares from TPE as CX service requires a connection in HKG, it is not as convenient as nonstops offered by CI/BR.
Not necessarily the "main" reason behind it. It's mainly about the demand in particular in the front cabins. There is less demand for F/J ex-TPE than say ex-HKG or ex-NRT.

There are still great F deals offered by CX TPE office to European destinations such as LHR & CDG, none of which is severed by CI and none of which has F cabin offered by BR.

sutrakhk
Aug 20, 09, 9:01 am
To all:
Please take a look of the terms and conditions:

4. Stopover HongKong:
->China - two stopovers in Hongkong are permitted.
->America - not permitted.
->Europe & Australia - either inbound or outbound one stopover permitted.
->South East Asia - Surcharge TWD1500 to allow only ONE stopover in Hongkong for the entire routing.
->Korea - Not applicable.

I don't believe ex-TPE D/I fare allows stopover at all. J fare kicks in for any stopover. That is why the op probably did not yield any I fare.

Thanks.

Just tried a sample TPE-SFO that only stops in HKG for return and still returned TWD 200K+ as it yielded J fare (despite I fare being available - see itin below). Does anyone know why I fare not available?

18 Dec CX565 TPE 14:15 HKG 16:05 0 14:45 777 eTicket Business (J)
18 Dec CX872 HKG 17:05 SFO 13:00 0 744 eTicket Business (J)
01 Jan CX873 SFO 00:05 HKG 06:50 +1 0 14:45 744 eTicket Business (I)
07 Feb CX530 HKG 09:20 TPE 10:55 0 1:35 330 eTicket Business (J)

D/I fares only allow HKG stopover on the inbound (return). Stopping on the outbound forces it to price at full J fare.@:-)

For South East Asia route, you can do stopover in either way.

I just tried a sample booking on CX's Taiwan site for a simple ex-tpe with stopover i HKG (see below). Instead of charging an addtional TWD1,500 it is TWD 181K+ for tpe-hkg-lax return! Am I doing it the wrong way?

18 Sep CX451 TPE 19:35 HKG 21:15 0 1:40 Business (J)
23 Sep CX882 HKG 16:15 LAX 14:15 0 13:00 Business (J)
26 Sep CX881 LAX 01:50 HKG 07:25 +1 14:35 Business (D)
27 Sep CX402 HKG 18:40 TPE 20:20 0 1:40 Business D)

But see posts 23 and 24 - stopover allowed!

They are different cases, mine one is from TPE to South East Asia.

IncyWincy
Aug 20, 09, 10:50 pm
Now that I understand the situation better (thank you FTers) - I need to ask this:

1. Assuming that both inbound and outbound are only transit at HKG, can I check in luggage (say 1 additional bag or 2 bags if I did not check in any to begin with and it is US flight) during transit at HKG?

2. I have read that one can ask for luggage to be simply tagged to HKG on return and thus forego the last HKG-TPE segment - will there be a "bad" remark on MPC profile? More importantly, is it not necessary to notify the HKG-TPE flight that I will not be flying so that they will not be wasting time waiting for me or even paging?

3. Regarding the outbound, I have read that TPE can refuse/discourage entries for less than 5 hours, so I should really only transit in TPE and turnaround on maybe 1-2 hours' gap. I know that I can pre-check in online for the journey that starts in TPE. Now the Q is - will the HKG check in agent doing the HKG-TPE necessarily check my luggage through to the next segment TPE-xHKG-SFO ? Bearing in mind that it is a seprate ticket. Otherwise, I will have to get to landside in TPE to collect luggage and check in again which will take a long time and might run into trouble given the 5-hour rule. Hence I also asked Q1 above as to whether I can add bags in HKG.

Thanks a lot.

christep
Aug 20, 09, 10:57 pm
1. Yes, I don't see why not.

2. Yes - tell them that you need to go landside and deliver something from your luggage to a friend while in transit, or something like that.

3. If I understand you correctly you are doing HKG-TPE on one ticket then transiting to TPE-xHKG-SFO on another and want just send your bags on HKG-SFO? If so then no problem at all. We recently did a mileage run to finish off AONE3s of HKG-xCGK-xHKG-MNL and there was no problem at all when we turned up at the HK Airport Express check-in in the morning with checking us all the way through and our bags simply HKG-MNL. This worked fine except that for some reason the HKG-MNL miles didn't turn up automatically, but an online mileage request a week later fixed that immediately.

IncyWincy
Aug 20, 09, 11:31 pm
To all:
Please take a look of the terms and conditions:

4. Stopover HongKong:
->China - two stopovers in Hongkong are permitted.
->America - not permitted.
->Europe & Australia - either inbound or outbound one stopover permitted.
->South East Asia - Surcharge TWD1500 to allow only ONE stopover in Hongkong for the entire routing.
->Korea - Not applicable.

Thanks. What about for Japan? Any stopovers allowed?





For South East Asia route, you can do stopover in either way.





They are different cases, mine one is from TPE to South East Asia.

IncyWincy
Aug 20, 09, 11:46 pm
1. Yes, I don't see why not.

2. Yes - tell them that you need to go landside and deliver something from your luggage to a friend while in transit, or something like that.

3. If I understand you correctly you are doing HKG-TPE on one ticket then transiting to TPE-xHKG-SFO on another and want just send your bags on HKG-SFO? If so then no problem at all. We recently did a mileage run to finish off AONE3s of HKG-xCGK-xHKG-MNL and there was no problem at all when we turned up at the HK Airport Express check-in in the morning with checking us all the way through and our bags simply HKG-MNL. This worked fine except that for some reason the HKG-MNL miles didn't turn up automatically, but an online mileage request a week later fixed that immediately.

Thank you.

TerryK
Aug 20, 09, 11:54 pm
CX ex-TPE fares to Japan are valid on direct flights only. You cannot transit HKG and hence no stopover to speak of.@:-)

ChrisLi
Aug 21, 09, 5:43 am
2. More importantly, is it not necessary to notify the HKG-TPE flight that I will not be flying so that they will not be wasting time waiting for me or even paging?


I think CX and HKIA state that they won't page you at all and if you don't appear you are automatic regard as no-show

IncyWincy
Aug 21, 09, 6:34 am
I think CX and HKIA state that they won't page you at all and if you don't appear you are automatic regard as no-show

Yes, agreed. But it is rather inconsiderate to do a no-show like that, esp since CX sometimes organize for signs to be held or people walking around with walkie talkies looking for last minute passengers to board.

Sohoboy
Aug 21, 09, 8:08 am
Yes, agreed. But it is rather inconsiderate to do a no-show like that, esp since CX sometimes organize for signs to be held or people walking around with walkie talkies looking for last minute passengers to board.

Yes, please be considerate. Think about those people sitting in the cabins, it's a waste of their time. :rolleyes:

chang9121990
Sep 9, 09, 10:47 pm
TPE-HKG-LAX is now around NT$66k+
I remember it was NT$73k+ just a few weeks back?
Is their business really that bad...

Even crappy CI charges more than that!

MilesBuzz
Sep 9, 09, 11:22 pm
But since then, the fuel surcharge has been increased too.......

f4freeJunior
Nov 1, 09, 1:16 pm
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I think CX and HKIA state that they won't page you at all and if you don't appear you are automatic regard as no-show

Yes, agreed. But it is rather inconsiderate to do a no-show like that, esp since CX sometimes organize for signs to be held or people walking around with walkie talkies looking for last minute passengers to board.

ok, but what would you recommend instead of?



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