Budget Travel - SQ: LAX/SFO- most Asian cities $679 ai

Looks like it covers Bangkok, Jakarta, Penang, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Denpasar, Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi, and Manila.

Appears July thru November dates

FareCompare has LAX-Bangkok at $496rt, but I have not been able to find it.

It is probably one of the 0 mileage earning fares though...

nice!

It is probably one of the 0 mileage earning fares though...

Those are horrible fares. Just horrible. It's like your "doing the time without doing the crime." It's quite arrogant of SQ to offer fares like that.

Those are horrible fares. Just horrible. It's like your "doing the time without doing the crime." It's quite arrogant of SQ to offer fares like that.

For those people who do not value miles above all else, the fares are actually quite excellent.

Granted this is the mileage run deals forum, getting to Asia for under $700 is quite a bargain for non-mileage earning purposes.

Besides, at this point, no one has actually confirmed whether these flights earn miles or not.

Sometimes I think we FT'ers get a bit spoiled/skewed with the concept of travel and earning miles.

Looks like it covers Bangkok, Jakarta, Penang, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Denpasar, Ho Chi Minh City, Hanoi, and Manila.

Appears July thru November dates

FareCompare has LAX-Bangkok at $496rt, but I have not been able to find it.

Sigh, if only they had it for June, i would have joined my friends gathering in SFO last weekend.

sample dates? i was trying to look for this to see whether it really was a non-mileage earning ticket and can't seem to find on SQ website or ITA. Found 678- SFO-HKG but on Asiana (OZ)

LAX -SIN $699 A.i. on SQ ..Nov dates

LAX - SIN $713 A.I. on United July dates..Throw a Slider for the third strike.
SEA - SIN $693 A.I. on United.
SEA - BKK $654 A.I. on UA
LAX - BKK $684 A.I. on UA
SFO - BKK $684 A.I. on UA
A couple of weeks ago The UA fare was around $600 to SIN

Now if UA would match SQ Base to BKK and SIN we could get some real good deals on UA..

It's booked into N class - availability is not very good ex-SFO.

what are the fare rules.

Can a stay be longer than 90 days?

I have tried to book a 76 day stay with "this slider" but it always prices higher.

It's booked into N class - availability is not very good ex-SFO.

Exclusion Classes (http://www.singaporeairlines.com/saa/en_UK/content/krisflyer/customerservice/glossary.jsp)
Certain booking fares are not eligible for mileage accrual. For Singapore Airlines, the booking fares not eligible for mileage accrual are V, Q, G, N or T.

I'll close this thread for now, on the basis of the fare not accumulating miles (as an N class fare).

Please RBP any post if you have found a mileage earning fare. This thread may be moved to Budget Travel on the basis of being a sale/non-miles fare.

Cheers,
BiziBB
Moderator, Mileage Run forums

ticket is showing as $418 base, $496 AI on fare compare. Don't know if the fare is bookable yet (or ever), but thought some people might be interested in trying their luck.
Mods, feel free to move as you see fit.
-T

edit: The fare code is NSPCL, and this is a Round Trip fare

Just for clarification, is this a o/w or r/t fare?

Just for clarification, is this a o/w or r/t fare?

Round trip, fare basis NSPCL . I've modified the original message to reflect this

I recall seeing an SQ sale posted in this forum yesterday but the thread is no longer here :confused:

Oh, it's in budget travel forum.

Obviously these fares earn 0 miles - not quite MR material. A great deal though.

Is this a mileage earning fare? SQ is notorious for non-earning fares.

I recall seeing an SQ sale posted in this forum yesterday but the thread is no longer here :confused:
Obviously these fares earn 0 miles - not quite MR material. A great deal though.

how can we determine this for sure? You are probalby right. I am guessing the 'N' in the farecode means its an 'N' booking class and according to the SQ website, "Most booking fares are eligible for accrual of KrisFlyer miles. However, Economy Class tickets issued in V, Q, G, N or T booking classes on Singapore Airlines and V, Q, G, N, T, W or L booking classes on SilkAir are ineligible for mileage accrual."

Mods, can you move this to a more appropriate forum, like budget travel?

This is an N-class fare, so no mileage credit AFAIK.

Base fare is 218 USD + a fuel surcharge of 404 USD + 77 USD taxes. No Min Stay:

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... and fares have been available singaporeairlines.com since last night.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/singapore-airlines-krisflyer/962492-big-sale.html

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/local/US/promotions/exceptional_value.jsp

how can we determine this for sure? You are probalby right. I am guessing the 'N' in the farecode means its an 'N' booking class and according to the SQ website, "Most booking fares are eligible for accrual of KrisFlyer miles. However, Economy Class tickets issued in V, Q, G, N or T booking classes on Singapore Airlines and V, Q, G, N, T, W or L booking classes on SilkAir are ineligible for mileage accrual."

Mods, can you move this to a more appropriate forum, like budget travel?

Yep. "Most booking fares are eligible..." my foot :D. Cheap b@stards.

ticket is showing as $418 base, $496 AI on fare compare. Don't know if the fare is bookable yet (or ever), but thought some people might be interested in trying their luck.
Mods, feel free to move as you see fit.
-T

edit: The fare code is NSPCL, and this is a Round Trip fare

Sample dates? Is this showing up anywhere else besides farecompare? Can't locate it.

Sample dates? Is this showing up anywhere else besides farecompare? Can't locate it.

My bad, didn't refresh my window to see recent posts.

... and fares have been available singaporeairlines.com since last night.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/singapore-airlines-krisflyer/962492-big-sale.html

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/local/US/promotions/exceptional_value.jsp

Good luck finding availability. Out of IAH, I'm finding essentially nothing.

played around on SQ website, flexible date results in $679 fares, but when it came to the actual schedules...fares double to about $1320+ :confused:...

it would be nice to get it for less...

Good luck finding availability. Out of IAH, I'm finding essentially nothing.Sep 13-23, for example. $679.20 all-in.
Issue is ... who wants fly 12000 miles+ each way without earning any miles.

Sep 13-23, for example. $679.20 all-in.
Issue is ... who wants fly 12000 miles+ each way without earning any miles.

Those dates don't work for IAH-SIN (no flights on the 23rd), but around that time, yes, it appears that you can get a ticket for $679.20.

Some of us would like to go to Singapore, regardless of whether any miles are earned in the process.

Yep. "Most booking fares are eligible..." my foot :D.

Yeah, no kidding. Wonder if you could accrue those miles on other *A programs by using that other *A number instead of a SilverKris number?

Those dates don't work for IAH-SIN (no flights on the 23rd), but around that time, yes, it appears that you can get a ticket for $679.20.

Some of us would like to go to Singapore, regardless of whether any miles are earned in the process.:confused: Well, the dates I quoted were based on Origine/Destination, not from/to the hub departure/arrival (SIN). SQ62 leaves for DME (continues to IAH) midnight next day.

Yeah, no kidding. Wonder if you could accrue those miles on other *A programs by using that other *A number instead of a SilverKris number?

Keep dreaming... These classes accrue bubcus when registering to UAMP:


X I O G Q V N T = No miles :rolleyes:

Combine this with BKK-JFK roundtrip (eg $995 all-in on CA) for a 2xRTW for ~$1600. Shame about the miles though.

Those dates don't work for IAH-SIN (no flights on the 23rd), but around that time, yes, it appears that you can get a ticket for $679.20.

Some of us would like to go to Singapore, regardless of whether any miles are earned in the process.

Yeah, but for just a few bucks more you could be getting a ton of miles. If this earned any I'd probably jump in. Could stand to hit BKK to get some suits made.

Similar thread was posted yesterday and it was moved to the budget travel forum because it is not a MR. Anyway, in order to accrue the mileage on SQ or their *A then you must pay additional $400+. SQ is very stingy about the mileage.

Is this a mileage earning fare? SQ is notorious for non-earning fares.

it is NO Mileage Accruable. It's posting clearly on Singaporeair.com.

I agree this is "budget travel" not MR.

I would have liked to see the Maldives included in this sale. Oh well :(

Hi, this is just a note to advise that the Mileage Run Deals forum is specifically for fares which earn status and miles, for a cost of a few cents per status mile (or less).

Accordingly, the earlier thread yesterday, plus this thread, for SQ N-class, non-mileage sale fares, should not be posted to Mileage Run Deals, but are welcome to be shared in the Budget Travel forum, where good deal fares (without the status/miles) and LCC sale fares are shared.

Cheers,
BiziBB
Moderator, Mileage Run forums

Oh, it's in budget travel forum.

Obviously these fares earn 0 miles - not quite MR material. A great deal though.

Exactly.

Merging the two SQ threads into one.

EmailKid
Budget Travel moderator

kayak/ita report 699 for most dates, sq.com and orbitz then report 900-1300 prices. what am i missing?

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