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nas6034
May 31, 09, 10:04 pm
Hi all,

I notice a huge fare difference when trying to purchase a ticket from Egyptair egypt website and Egyptair USA website. As a non-egyptian, US Citizen, do you think I would have problem using a ticket purchased on the egyptair website? I can't tell by the fare restrictions but I feel like purchasing from the egyptair, egypt website would save me a considerable amount of money. Any one have any opinions on this?


Phil the Flyer
Jun 1, 09, 2:02 am
Hi all,

I notice a huge fare difference when trying to purchase a ticket from Egyptair egypt website and Egyptair USA website. As a non-egyptian, US Citizen, do you think I would have problem using a ticket purchased on the egyptair website? I can't tell by the fare restrictions but I feel like purchasing from the egyptair, egypt website would save me a considerable amount of money. Any one have any opinions on this?

nas6034 - have a look at this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/951311-ot-connection-ba-egypt-air-cairo.html

TravellinHusker
Jun 5, 09, 11:10 am
I've booked on Egyptair's website by clicking on Egypt and then English. My non-Egyptian credit card was accepted without problems. Ticket numbers were issued. Flights were taken. Overall, not a problem. There is no reason why you shouldn't use the Egyptian section of the Egyptiar website.

I have fully read the entire fare rules and nothing states that one must hold an Egyptian passport, resident card or resident visa. The rules are kind of long, but here they are directly printed from the confirmation of the ticket:

Full rule text

Full Rule Text for adult(s)

1 - psgr p1-2 adt rules display
fare component 1 adt cailxr ms tdeg
fcl: tdeg trf: 305 rule: dom1 bk: t
ptc: adt-adult ftc: eu -economy unrestricted
ru.rule application
normal fares within egypt
application
area these fares apply within egypt.
class of service
these fares apply for economy class service.
types of transportation
fares governed by this rule can be used to create one-way/round-trip/circle-trip/open-jaw journeys.
fares only apply if purchased before departure.
exception-
may be used for en-route upgrading from a lower
fare provided all conditions of these fares are met.
other conditions
passenger expenses not permitted

sr.sales restrict

tickets must be issued on/after 17sep 08.
for tdeg type fares

tickets may only be sold in egypt.

tr.tvl restriction

valid for travel commencing on/after 05dec 08.

ap.advance res/tkt
for tdeg type fares

reservations are required for all sectors.
waitlist not permitted.

fl.flt application

the fare component must be on
one or more of the following
any ms flight
on direct flights.
note -
for asw/abs shuttle service - return travel must b
e on next flight after two hours.otherwise charge
double the applicable fare-except ms flight 249

cd.child discounts

accompanied child 2-11 - charge 75 percent of the fare.
ticketing code - base fare code plus ch
or - 1st infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent
of the fare
or - unaccompanied child 2-11 - charge 75 percent of the
fare.

tc.tour conductor

note -
tour conductor discounts not permitted.

od.other discounts

note -
no other discounts permitted.

so.stopovers

no stopovers permitted.

tf.transfers/rtgs

transfers not permitted on the fare component
fare break and embedded surface sectors not permitted on
the fare component.

te.tkt endorsement

the original ticket must be annotated - valid on ms only-
in the endorsement box.

pe.penalties
from/to egypt for tdeg type fares

cancellations

any time
ticket is non-refundable in case of cancel/refund.
note -
child discount does not apply
infant free of charge
a.death provision
waivers must be evidenced by death certificate
--
b.exchange -change to first ticketed flight/wholly
unused ticket
--
upon payment of cancel fee -residual value may be
refunded or applied toward purchase of new ticket
at current fare levels any difference in fare /tax
is collected at time of ticket issuance .

changes

any time
charge egp 50.00 for reissue/revalidation.
waived for death of passenger or family member.
note -
charge applies per transaction
child discount does not apply/infant free ofcharge
if multiple changes are made at the same time only
one change fee will apply per ticket....
if fares with different change fees are combined
on the same ticket the highest fee of all changed
fare components will apply .
tickets must be reissued when any voluntary change
is made .
---------------
fares can be upgraded to a higher applicable fare
recalculated from the last fare break point.all
conditions of the new fares must be complied with
-------------
rebooking / reissue / upgrading / mco issuance
must be mada in one transaction before departure
of the flight being changed provided that all
conditions of the fare are complied with.
charge egp 100.00 for no-show.
waived for death of passenger or family member.
note -
charge applies per transaction
child discount does not apply/infant free ofcharge
if multiple changes are made at the same time only
one change fee will apply per ticket....
if fares with different change fees are combined
on the same ticket the highest fee of all changed
fare components will apply .
tickets must be reissued when any voluntary change
is made .
---------------
fares can be upgraded to a higher applicable fare
recalculated from the last fare break point.all
conditions of the new fares must be complied with
-------------
rebooking / reissue / upgrading / mco issuance
must be mada in one transaction before departure
of the flight being changed provided that all
conditions of the fare are complied with.

co.combinability
add-ons not permitted.
fares may be combined on a half round trip basis with any
fare for any carrier in any rule and tariff to form
single/double open jaws/round trips/circle trips.
end-on-end
end-on-end combinations permitted with domestic/
international fares. validate all fare components. fares
must be shown separately on the ticket. travel must be
via the point of combination.

hi.higher intermediate point

note -
higher intermediate rule applies.

vc.voluntary changes
voluntary changes conditions may apply for automated
reissue/revalidation
refer to penalties category *pe for details
>


1 - psgr p1-2 adt rules display
fare component 2 adt lxrcai ms tdeg
fcl: tdeg trf: 305 rule: dom1 bk: t
ptc: adt-adult ftc: eu -economy unrestricted
ru.rule application
normal fares within egypt
application
area
these fares apply
within egypt.
class of service
these fares apply for economy class service.
types of transportation
fares governed by this rule can be used to create
one-way/round-trip/circle-trip/open-jaw journeys.
fares only apply if purchased before departure.
exception-
may be used for en-route upgrading from a lower
fare provided all conditions of these fares are
>
met.
other conditions
passenger expenses not permitted


sr.sales restrict

tickets must be issued on/after 17sep 08.
for tdeg type fares

tickets may only be sold in egypt.

tr.tvl restriction

valid for travel commencing on/after 05dec 08.

ap.advance res/tkt
for tdeg type fares

reservations are required for all sectors.
waitlist not permitted.
>


fl.flt application

the fare component must be on
one or more of the following
any ms flight
on direct flights.
note -
for asw/abs shuttle service - return travel must b
e on next flight after two hours.otherwise charge
double the applicable fare-except ms flight 249

cd.child discounts

accompanied child 2-11 - charge 75 percent of the fare.
ticketing code - base fare code plus ch
or - 1st infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent
of the fare
or - unaccompanied child 2-11 - charge 75 percent of the
fare.
>

tc.tour conductor

note -
tour conductor discounts not permitted.


od.other discounts

note -
no other discounts permitted.


so.stopovers

no stopovers permitted.


tf.transfers/rtgs

transfers not permitted on the fare component
>
fare break and embedded surface sectors not permitted on
the fare component.

te.tkt endorsement

the original ticket must be annotated - valid on ms only-
in the endorsement box.


pe.penalties
from/to egypt for tdeg type fares

cancellations

any time
ticket is non-refundable in case of cancel/refund.
note -
child discount does not apply
infant free of charge
a.death provision
waivers must be evidenced by death certificate
>
--
b.exchange -change to first ticketed flight/wholly
unused ticket
--
upon payment of cancel fee -residual value may be
refunded or applied toward purchase of new ticket
at current fare levels any difference in fare /tax
is collected at time of ticket issuance .

changes

any time
charge egp 50.00 for reissue/revalidation.
waived for death of passenger or family member.
note -
charge applies per transaction
child discount does not apply/infant free ofcharge
if multiple changes are made at the same time only
one change fee will apply per ticket....
if fares with different change fees are combined
on the same ticket the highest fee of all changed
>
fare components will apply .
tickets must be reissued when any voluntary change
is made .
---------------
fares can be upgraded to a higher applicable fare
recalculated from the last fare break point.all
conditions of the new fares must be complied with
-------------
rebooking / reissue / upgrading / mco issuance
must be mada in one transaction before departure
of the flight being changed provided that all
conditions of the fare are complied with.
charge egp 100.00 for no-show.
waived for death of passenger or family member.
note -
charge applies per transaction
child discount does not apply/infant free ofcharge
if multiple changes are made at the same time only
one change fee will apply per ticket....
if fares with different change fees are combined
on the same ticket the highest fee of all changed
>
fare components will apply .
tickets must be reissued when any voluntary change
is made .
---------------
fares can be upgraded to a higher applicable fare
recalculated from the last fare break point.all
conditions of the new fares must be complied with
-------------
rebooking / reissue / upgrading / mco issuance
must be mada in one transaction before departure
of the flight being changed provided that all
conditions of the fare are complied with.


co.combinability
add-ons not permitted.
fares may be combined on a half round trip basis with any
fare for any carrier in any rule and tariff to form
single/double open jaws/round trips/circle trips.
end-on-end
end-on-end combinations permitted with domestic/
>
international fares. validate all fare components. fares
must be shown separately on the ticket. travel must be
via the point of combination.

hi.higher intermediate point

note -
higher intermediate rule applies.

vc.voluntary changes
voluntary changes conditions may apply for automated
reissue/revalidation
refer to penalties category *pe for details


bebert
Jun 13, 09, 6:07 pm
same difference between egyptair France and Egypt site
i bought CAI-SSH A/R from the egypt site, and all went through smoothly

they try to ripp off foreigners but we 're smarter :-)

pinniped
Oct 22, 09, 4:10 pm
I was unable to purchase my EgyptAir tickets from any version of the MS website. .eg with English as the language or .com with USA set as the country.

But...I noticed the quotes between the USA site and the Egyptian site were actually not that far off. I priced three segments at $221 (total) on the US site vs. LE1140 on the EG site. That's a difference of about 5%.

Since neither site could ticket me with any of my American credit cards, I used Orbitz which was $11 per person more expensive.

Unless there's some freakishly low Egyptian-native site I'm not aware of, I don't think I got ripped off too bad.



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