Finnair Plus - M&M status "match" for Finland

FYI,
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/954342-m-m-offers-status-match-finland.html

What kind of conditions are there?

LH is pretty tempting for my North American flights. Munich and Charlotte are rather nice transfer hubs to my preferred destinations. And I could easily arrange a Finnish address if needed...;)

Full fare Y or biz/first required for the qualifying flight(s)? The Senator status is only valid until Dec 2009?

Any booking class qualifies and the status seems to be valid until February 2011. Such a nice offer that it seems that the M&M Flyertalkers are angry about the benefits given to Finnish residents.

For more information see the pdf form (http://milesandmore-aktionen.de/status/pdf/Status_Fax_Online_FI_EN.pdf) and http://www.miles-and-more.com --> Finland.

I have already booked my first *alliance flight on LH to Munich in June.

Now, if only BA or AY would match *alliance status.

Excellent offer. I am willing to try M&M benefits and compare them to BA. LH is advertaising 99 € rt trips to MUC and FRA. Have anyone found these fares for May or June? All other bargains are also welcome. United flights in July and August are my next scheduled *A flights and I would like to have *G in my pocket then.

Any booking class qualifies and the status seems to be valid until February 2011. Such a nice offer that it seems that the M&M Flyertalkers are angry about the benefits given to Finnish residents.

For more information see the pdf form (http://milesandmore-aktionen.de/status/pdf/Status_Fax_Online_FI_EN.pdf) and http://www.miles-and-more.com --> Finland.

I have already booked my first *alliance flight on LH to Munich in June.

Now, if only BA or AY would match *alliance status.

LH had the same offer going for Italian residents, too.

Feb 2011 - if you have OW Gold, you'll be LH SEN (*A Gold) till Feb 11 and LH FTL (*A Silver) till Feb 2013!

AY does publicly match *A status (or even giving it away, without matching!) on certain conditions (ex-Germany to Asia, ex-Korea to Europe, etc - one return flight gets you AY Gold) Who knows, maybe they'll match privately, if you ask nicely? :)

(I have a strange feeling about this - I "worked" hard last year to qualify for both LH and AY Gold, and now it turns out any one of them would have been enough.)

This is great stuff. Our summer vacation flights were already booked a long time ago on LH and OS, so a free FTL status will be appreciated. I just need to be bothered to fill out the paper work and fax it in...

LH Senator until Feb -11? Oh yes please! :)

Let me get this straight: by signing up and taking one LH flight I'll earn two M&M eVouchers - which I can then use to upgrade from business to First on, say, SQ or ANA?

Sounds too good to be true.

See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/949784-using-sen-evouchers-other-carriers.html

Where do you see, that one economoy roundtrip give you 2 E-vouchers?

It's nice to see there is someone who cares Finnish elites also.
Our national carrier's Minus program forgot us elites about 5 years ago.

Never flown with LH, now it's time for check it out as Senator. :p

Never flown with LH, now it's time for check it out as Senator. :p

Actually you will first check it out as no status passenger since the requirement is to fly a single roundtrip flight before being status matched. Of course you could also fly OS (or LX, OU etc. but those are a bit harder to access ex-HEL) and your original statement would still hold true :)

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I am still looking for cheap LH or other eligible flights ex-HEL to fullfil the requirements. All ideas are welcome.

I am still looking for cheap LH or other eligible flights ex-HEL to fullfil the requirements. All ideas are welcome.

Are those OS offers ex-HEL still available? There were quite a few destinations (AMS, CDG, OTP, ATH, IST, FCO, MXP, BUD etc.) available for 149 EUR all in. These fares are not exactly MR-material as there's a Sat night stay requirement and availability on Sundays seemed to be a little tight, but if you want to turn it into a nice extended summer weekend break you could swat two flies with one strike.

If that fails the best option are to search wide for el cheapo FRA or MUC r/t on LH. It might be too late to score any 99€ tickets, but it should be possible to find some availability for less than 200€. You just need to be very flexible with dates and be prepared to fly in the middle of the week. The multiple day search on the LH website shoudl be able to find you something.

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Where do you see, that one economoy roundtrip give you 2 E-vouchers?

Senator status comes with 2 eVouchers.

Let me get this straight: by signing up and taking one LH flight I'll earn two M&M eVouchers - which I can then use to upgrade from business to First on, say, SQ or ANA?

Sounds too good to be true.


Yes, it's true, but with reservations:

If you have two eVouchers, you can upgrade your seat on an intercontinental flight. eVouchers are non-transferable, but they can be redeemed for a travelling companion. Here's another benefit: eVouchers never expire!

http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/il/nonav/no_taxonomy_simple?nodeid=2011776&l=en&cid=1000266

It is kinda strange that the registration is by fax only. Has anyone registered and actually got any kind of confirmation? I sent the fax a few days ago but have not heard or seen anything since...

It is kinda strange that the registration is by fax only. Has anyone registered and actually got any kind of confirmation? I sent the fax a few days ago but have not heard or seen anything since...

No, I haven't either.

I don't know why it's fax only, when email and scanners are the innovations of the last century... :)

Excellent offer. I am willing to try M&M benefits and compare them to BA. LH is advertaising 99 € rt trips to MUC and FRA. Have anyone found these fares for May or June? All other bargains are also welcome. United flights in July and August are my next scheduled *A flights and I would like to have *G in my pocket then.

I do believe LH only targets Finnair Plus tier members so BA or for example CX "elites" are excluded.

I do believe LH only targets Finnair Plus tier members so BA or for example CX "elites" are excluded.

AY is their main target but I'm sure that I saw somewhere that any non-star elites are qualified. Perhaps it was mentioned on the actual form. Can't check it at the moment.

I do believe LH only targets Finnair Plus tier members so BA or for example CX "elites" are excluded.

I called to LH on Monday and asked what level I would get for my BA Gold. The answer was that they will comp all silver cards to FTL and all golds and plats to Senator level. So hopefully they will follow their own rules.

I am still looking for cheap M&M flights. Mayby I have to take a flight that is too expensive for MR. :(

I do believe LH only targets Finnair Plus tier members so BA or for example CX "elites" are excluded.

As the campaign is in Finland, the main (but not the only) target group is obviously AY - the terms say "any non-*A FFP elite", so if you are a gold member in e.g. SriLankan's FlySmiles, they'd have to match it.

I am still looking for cheap M&M flights. Mayby I have to take a flight that is too expensive for MR. :(

LH very often has 99€ r/t to FRA & MUC

I called to LH on Monday and asked what level I would get for my BA Gold. The answer was that they will comp all silver cards to FTL and all golds and plats to Senator level.

Isn't BA Silver the same OW level as AY Gold? In which case getting FTL only would be a serius letdown :td:

the terms say "any non-*A FFP elite"

Too bad for the non-*A part... I am sure that they would get plenty of people from SK EB otherwise.

I called to LH on Monday and asked what level I would get for my BA Gold. The answer was that they will comp all silver cards to FTL and all golds and plats to Senator level. So hopefully they will follow their own rules.

I am still looking for cheap M&M flights. Mayby I have to take a flight that is too expensive for MR. :(

Thanks for the correction then.

I personally would only use this offer (have to move one of the OW accounts to Finland first) if flying Europe - US. The connection via Munich and Charlotte seems to be the most convenient for my needs and destinations.

No interest to use LH on pure intra-European flights where they are inferior to Finnair and BA (and Air Berlin), in my opinion. Also not that convenient to fly to my usual German haunts DUS and TXL via FRA.

I called to LH on Monday and asked what level I would get for my BA Gold. The answer was that they will comp all silver cards to FTL and all golds and plats to Senator level.

Thanks for confirming this.

I faxed in my BA Gold card as I wasn't sure if they'd match my Finnair Gold to FTL or Senator and I wanted to get Senator.

It will be interesting to see how they tell apart BA Silver and BA Gold cards; there's no text on the card and the colours don't fax well...

It will be interesting to see how they tell apart BA Silver and BA Gold cards; there's no text on the card and the colours don't fax well...

Yes, you are rigth. OW Blue or Green aren't too far away in black and white. Interesting to see what will happen. Mrs Anselmi is BA Silver so we will find out during the summer what kind of cards they will send us.

(have to move one of the OW accounts to Finland first)

That is unnecessary because LH has no access to the information on your OW accounts (other than the level and card number which you fax to them). The only thing that matters is that your Miles and More card (temporary or old) is based in Finland.

This status match really works!!
I sent my FinnairPlus Gold card by fax immediately and now, after 1 return trip to MUC, I got my SEN card already!!
Thank you Lufthansa!

This status match really works!!
I sent my FinnairPlus Gold card by fax immediately and now, after 1 return trip to MUC, I got my SEN card already!!
Thank you Lufthansa!

Excellent news! Did you get two upgrade vouchers too?

Me and mrs Anselmi both received an email from M&M stating they are able to identify our status from a fax. No kidding, the fax is black and white and there is only either blue or green mark on BAEC card. So we send a new faxes to Germany with a print screen from BAEC. Let see what BA Silver is worth. Hopefully Senator as they comp AY gold to Senator.

And welcome to FlyerTalk Kivinen. Excellent news in your first post.

Excellent news! Did you get two upgrade vouchers too?

Me and mrs Anselmi both received an email from M&M stating they are able to identify our status from a fax. No kidding, the fax is black and white and there is only either blue or green mark on BAEC card. So we send a new faxes to Germany with a print screen from BAEC. Let see what BA Silver is worth. Hopefully Senator as they comp AY gold to Senator.

And welcome to FlyerTalk Kivinen. Excellent news in your first post.
I got a fax that they couldn't identify my card. Strange, I made a photocopy first and faxed that one. You clearly see the status. Oh well, have to try again.

Anselmi,

Just 1 flight (or actually 2 fligths minimum) to any LH destination and a fax about the current OW-card?

What benefits to SK-gold ad inf?

I just may have be sampling Sacher oder (hören) Philhamonics pretty soon...

I am just curious if Finnair does a status match for customers residing in Germany to counter the marketing carried out by Lufthansa?

Just found the answer.

http://www.finnair.com/finnaircom/wps/wcm/resources/file/ebaa4f0c459ee68/Finnair_Plus_Kampagne_DE.pdf

Yes it does. But one needs to fly from Germany to Asia...: (

[QUOTE=TTL;11885655]Anselmi,

Just 1 flight (or actually 2 fligths minimum) to any LH destination and a fax about the current OW-card?

What benefits to SK-gold ad inf?

I just may have be sampling Sacher oder (hören) Philhamonics pretty soon...[/QUO

Requirement for M&M status are one return flight with LH, OS, LX plus some other smaller M&M companies. Just fax the application with your non-*A elite card.

Excellent news! Did you get two upgrade vouchers too?

Indeed, this is a key question. Kivinen, did you get M&M upgrade vouchers with your card?

yes indeed, I got an upgrade voucher together with the gold SEN card as well!

I still can't believe it: this is really a gift from heaven!

yes indeed, I got an upgrade voucher together with the gold SEN card as well!

I still can't believe it: this is really a gift from heaven!

Over at the LH forum, Italian members seem to have received also 1 upgrade voucher (so LH is not giving the 2 vouchers they give when you reach SEN the hard way)

This is food for thought, because I was ready to use a second M&M account just to get 2 upg vouchers, but for one I'm not sure - I might need even those miles to renew SEN for 2012-2013 :D

This status match really works!!
I sent my FinnairPlus Gold card by fax immediately and now, after 1 return trip to MUC, I got my SEN card already!!
Thank you Lufthansa!

How many days between your flight (posting) and SEN being reflected online or getting your card?

Opened M&M account, faxed everything through, did my flights, they posted and now waiting.

I may send them a fax to ask re status!

How many days between your flight (posting) and SEN being reflected online or getting your card?

Online almost immediately (one or two days? after the flight), card in the post 8 days after the return flight.

Many thanks, I will send them a fax today or try and give them a call, it's over a week now that I my flights posted. Many thanks

Finnish mailing addresses are in demand. :D

Even though they claim that you need to take a roundtrip flight in order to be qualified for the new status I got my FTL already after the outbound flights. Mind you it involved a connection in FRA, so maybe they simplified the rules and just looked for 2 segments.

That's not too bad as it also meant I earned the status bonus on the return flights.

What was bad is that the lounge warden at VIE had no way of verifying my FTL status with the temporary card and refused an entry to the lounge - I volunteered to show the status from the website but that wouldn't do. Then again he said that I wouldn't be allowed to bring and guests as a FTL anyway and I was traveling with the family so it didn't really matter.

The information on the M&M website has been changed: you have until the end of October (both for registration and for flight requirement)

[URL="http://milesandmore-aktionen.de/status/pdf/Status_Fax_Online_FI_EN.pdf"]

By the way: my colleague mentioned something important: if you have EuroBonus (or other Star Alliance card), make sure that your booking mentions the M&M number (not the EuroBonus number, which may be in your profile at the travel agency), so that your flight is credited to M&M. ;)

Finnish mailing addresses are in demand. :D

LH seems to throw status matches all over - Italy, Finland, Russia, Netherlands, Czech...

In a brilliant display of automated business processes I today received a regular M&M card in the mail, four days after I received the FTL card by express mail.

What a waste. Luckily my daughter likes to play with these plastic cards so that's a new toy for her then.

Any guesses whether they will count SN flights already for this promo? I'll most likely head to BRU in September and could easily take the miles to M&M. I have already registered to the promo with my AA Gold, but unfortunately had no chance to fly with LH or partners... Maybe I'll need to make a R/T to MUC or FRA in October in order to qualify. What are your opinions, would it be worth it?

Any guesses whether they will count SN flights already for this promo? I'll most likely head to BRU in September and could easily take the miles to M&M. I have already registered to the promo with my AA Gold, but unfortunately had no chance to fly with LH or partners... Maybe I'll need to make a R/T to MUC or FRA in October in order to qualify. What are your opinions, would it be worth it?

You need to fly by August 31 to qualify. And according to T&C SN is not counted in.

The rules say "one paid return flight".

I submitted HEL-FRA and MUC-HEL legs of a larger itinerary as my qualifying flights. No gold.

So I emailed them about it and got a reply the next day, granting me my fourth FF Gold card. Nice.

Their strategy works. I'm now very seriously thinking about starting to credit all my *A travel to Lufthassu.

By the way, I only got 1 upgrade eVoucher. If you earn Gold the hard way, you get 2.

One eVoucher upgrades a shorthaul flight, two eVouchers upgrade a longhaul flight.

I'm not complaining...but I was hoping on getting 2...

You need to fly by August 31 to qualify. And according to T&C SN is not counted in.

The T&C have changed, because the action has been extended until end of October. As SN is only joining M&M officially from 1 NOV, you can "only" get the statusmatch by flying LH, OS, LX, LO by 31 OCT.

The T&C have changed, because the action has been extended until end of October. As SN is only joining M&M officially from 1 NOV, you can "only" get the statusmatch by flying LH, OS, LX, LO by 31 OCT.

Well, that's what I also though, but was kind of hoping that they might be flexible and decided to check if someone had any experiences. Anyhow, it wouldn't harm to collect to M&M and ask, as I'll anyhow make the shift from SK to LH and from SN you can't gain AY level points. In case it won't work, I'll need to figure a r/t with LH or alliance within Oct. Will AA Gold transfer to FTL?

AA gold will transfer to the golden SENATOR status: gold for gold (SEN), silver for silver
(FTL)

AA gold will transfer to the golden SENATOR status: gold for gold (SEN), silver for silver
(FTL)

AA Gold, are you sure?

AA Gold = OW Ruby = BA Blue = pretty much nothing.

Sorry. No, it's the OW value (silver/gold) that counts

The just keep on going at Lufthansa. Just received this news:

Flying with Lufthansa is now worth double for Miles & More members: In the next two months, they will be earning double status miles on each flight within Europe. Lufthansa is taking this step to help customers achieve, retain or enhance their status in the Miles & More programme. Miles & More members must simply register at www.milesandmore.com to participate in the “Double Status Miles” campaign.

And in the meantime, the status match campaign continues until the end of OCT. I am starting to love this crisis. ^

The just keep on going at Lufthansa. Just received this news:

Flying with Lufthansa is now worth double for Miles & More members: In the next two months, they will be earning double status miles on each flight within Europe. Lufthansa is taking this step to help customers achieve, retain or enhance their status in the Miles & More programme. Miles & More members must simply register at www.milesandmore.com to participate in the “Double Status Miles” campaign.

And in the meantime, the status match campaign continues until the end of OCT. I am starting to love this crisis. ^

Where do you find registration on the MM page? Search as I may, I can't find it!

Where do you find registration on the MM page? Search as I may, I can't find it!

The email contained a targeted, unique registration link that pointed to a page under promo.milesandmore.com.

The email contained a targeted, unique registration link that pointed to a page under promo.milesandmore.com.

Probably not so targeted, meanwhile it's out in the open, anyone can reg (see the M&M threads)

Finnish mailing addresses are in demand. :D

If you are in a position to help with a temporary address, please PM me.

Thank you!

I did my first flights as a M&M Senator, which was earned through this promotion. These were economy flights HEL-MUC-HEL.

I was addressed by name by the crew during service, on both legs. On shorthaul, in economy.

I don't know why, but I really like that small touch.

I'm considering starting to collect miles on M&M for real...

I did my first flights as a M&M Senator, which was earned through this promotion. These were economy flights HEL-MUC-HEL.

I was addressed by name by the crew during service, on both legs. On shorthaul, in economy.

I don't know why, but I really like that small touch.

I'm considering starting to collect miles on M&M for real...

^ for LH - but I think this is more than most SEN ever get during their SENdom - there's a whole thread on this over at the M&M area. :)

(I have only ever been greeted by name on CX NRT-HKG as an AY Silver :cool:

(I have only ever been greeted by name on CX NRT-HKG as an AY Silver :cool:

CX does this automatically for all (at least OW top tiers) in F/J, I've never flown CX in the back so cannot comment on that but wouldn't be surprised it they do the same there...It's great fun to listen/see how the CX ladies struggle with Scandinavian names...

It took one week to update my account to Senator. But what sucks is that mrs. Anselmi, BA Silver, got only FTL. Weird because it has been reported here AA Golds are comped to SEN. And she really would be flying on LH a lot. Let see will they change their verdict to SEN and get one active and happy flyer or not.

CX does this automatically for all (at least OW top tiers) in F/J, I've never flown CX in the back so cannot comment on that but wouldn't be surprised it they do the same there...It's great fun to listen/see how the CX ladies struggle with Scandinavian names...

It doesn't matter who is trying to say my last name we always get a good laugh. :D

It took one week to update my account to Senator. But what sucks is that mrs. Anselmi, BA Silver, got only FTL. Weird because it has been reported here AA Golds are comped to SEN. And she really would be flying on LH a lot. Let see will they change their verdict to SEN and get one active and happy flyer or not.

I'd bring it up with LH, as it's an obvious confusion on their part (or BA's system is confusing)

CX does this automatically for all (at least OW top tiers) in F/J, I've never flown CX in the back so cannot comment on that but wouldn't be surprised it they do the same there...It's great fun to listen/see how the CX ladies struggle with Scandinavian names...

As you suspect CX does it also in economy class, as well as asking meal options first etc, have experienced this on a HKG-NRT leg not so long ago.
Regarding LH my experience is that they almost always great you by name, at least once.

Actually, I brought it up. But the AA Gold is confusing, as it is only comparable with a silver status on any alliance... SEN is a real gold status, FTL silver

I'd bring it up with LH, as it's an obvious confusion on their part (or BA's system is confusing)

Sad but answer from M&M was they do not know how other frequent flyers programs works or what are their status colors. So, silver for silver. Seems that LH lost one extremely frequent flyer. Have to recommend some other *A program for mrs Anselmi. Do you think guys will they transfer already collected miles to other program and close her account?

Sad but answer from M&M was they do not know how other frequent flyers programs works or what are their status colors. So, silver for silver. Seems that LH lost one extremely frequent flyer. Have to recommend some other *A program for mrs Anselmi. Do you think guys will they transfer already collected miles to other program and close her account?

Sad. In my experience the M/M FTL beats all other *A cards, even gold levels. *gold gives you on LH on waitlist priority, Business check-in, more luggage and lounge access. FTL has those too. And these FTL advantages are recognized by all M/M companies (LX, LG, LO, OS... and SN soon too). When I was FTL and flew with LH, I was upgraded several times, but my colleague with SAS EBG was not. So LH or their system gave me better status than *A gold. What I like in M/M too is their mileage offers. I'm sure that your mrs gets Senator quite easily, if she flies half what you say..

Sad. In my experience the M/M FTL beats all other *A cards, even gold levels. *gold gives you on LH on waitlist priority, Business check-in, more luggage and lounge access. FTL has those too. And these FTL advantages are recognized by all M/M companies (LX, LG, LO, OS... and SN soon too). When I was FTL and flew with LH, I was upgraded several times, but my colleague with SAS EBG was not. So LH or their system gave me better status than *A gold. What I like in M/M too is their mileage offers. I'm sure that your mrs gets Senator quite easily, if she flies half what you say..

While there's a lot of .....ing going in the M&M forum, I agree, that M&M beats EB hands down and blindfolded... Somewhat more difficult to achieve (100/135k in one year vs 45/55k) but is valid for two years so you need to requalify every other year*. And there is a soft landing to FTL, again valid for 2 yrs. And if SEN beats EBG hands down, I can't even find the right expression to compare FTL to EBS.

*giving a nice opportunity to re-qualify for AY Gold in between :D

Sad. In my experience the M/M FTL beats all other *A cards, even gold levels. *gold gives you on LH on waitlist priority, Business check-in, more luggage and lounge access. FTL has those too. And these FTL advantages are recognized by all M/M companies (LX, LG, LO, OS... and SN soon too). When I was FTL and flew with LH, I was upgraded several times, but my colleague with SAS EBG was not. So LH or their system gave me better status than *A gold. What I like in M/M too is their mileage offers. I'm sure that your mrs gets Senator quite easily, if she flies half what you say..

Welcome to Flyertalk Mseagull!

Thanks for hearing good words of LH M&M. It is still difficult to decide either to recommend her to stay or go.

It took one week to update my account to Senator. But what sucks is that mrs. Anselmi, BA Silver, got only FTL. Weird because it has been reported here AA Golds are comped to SEN. And she really would be flying on LH a lot. Let see will they change their verdict to SEN and get one active and happy flyer or not.


You're wrong re AA commment, see posts 52-54 (1 page back). AA Gold was not comped to SEN, and fyi AA Gold = OW Ruby = BA Blue..

BA Silver is correctly comped to FTL. SEN = BA Gold. Of course not all equal or comparable, but no way BA Silver is same as SEN.

If she is happy with BA Silver benefits then experience will be similar with FTL.

You're wrong re AA commment, see posts 52-54 (1 page back). AA Gold was not comped to SEN, and fyi AA Gold = OW Ruby = BA Blue..

BA Silver is correctly comped to FTL. SEN = BA Gold. Of course not all equal or comparable, but no way BA Silver is same as SEN.

If she is happy with BA Silver benefits then experience will be similar with FTL.

Yep, it seems you are partly right. I was reading only the post #52 not #54. But they are still comping AY Gold to SEN and my opinnion is that BA Silver is better than AY gold. But we all have different tastes and needs.

Agree it is a bit odd they don't simply compare OW level with *A level.

my opinnion is that BA Silver is better than AY gold. But we all have different tastes and needs.

Just out of curiosity, what makes you think so? Naturally status with the airline one flies the most makes best sense but other than that, what's the trick with BA Silver over AY Gold? Personally I don't value BA Silver that much at all but like you said we all have our own priorities..

Just out of curiosity, what makes you think so? Naturally status with the airline one flies the most makes best sense but other than that, what's the trick with BA Silver over AY Gold? Personally I don't value BA Silver that much at all but like you said we all have our own priorities..
I fly mainly on BA so as you said it is best to focus to the preferred airline. BA MFUs are excellent value on long haul flight. Also BA op ups are good quite common these days. AY haven't ever upgraded me. Yes, I know AY gives out upgrade vouchers but still their service attitude isn't as good as BA's. BA baggage policy is superior for Silvers compared to AY. And almost forgot to say, BA Silver is way easier to get :D

It would be nice to hear your agruments.

I fly mainly on BA so as you said it is best to focus to the preferred airline. BA MFUs are excellent value on long haul flight. Also BA op ups are good quite common these days. AY haven't ever upgraded me. Yes, I know AY gives out upgrade vouchers but still their service attitude isn't as good as BA's. BA baggage policy is superior for Silvers compared to AY. And almost forgot to say, BA Silver is way easier to get :D

It would be nice to hear your agruments.

I agree on all points you mentioned regarding BA but to me you were mostly comparing BAEC/AYPlus and/or the airlines in general, not the tier levels that were the initial topic.... BA Silver vs. AY Gold.. ;)

I prefer AY top status over BA as it's valid for 24monts at one go + the vouchers + I fly AY more than BA.

To conclude I'd say that AY Plus is not enough as the only OW program for someone who really flies heavily with OW... and AA alone is not enough as then intra US lounge access becomes an issue..that's why I have decided to stick with 3 of them, AA+BA on the side and AY as my main plan, at least for now...

In a brilliant display of automated business processes I today received a regular M&M card in the mail, four days after I received the FTL card by express mail.

What a waste. Luckily my daughter likes to play with these plastic cards so that's a new toy for her then.
Same thing happened to me. I got my Senator card delivered about a week after the status showed and the blue card followed two days later .-)

I don't know why, but I really like that small touch.

I'm considering starting to collect miles on M&M for real...

Since AF/KL destroyed the Lying Blue program I concentrated most of my flights to LH and would have got FTL anyway. But the status match was really good anyway. The first L/H flight to U.S. after the status match I was op-up:ed. One month later on a other LH flight to U.S. I was op-up:ed again. :cool: ^

LH will have all my business and of course their strategy working. There are so many collegues and friends I have been able to recommend LH & M&M to, and that have started flying with them. Will be 20 000 miles from SEN status but don't think I will run for it this year.