Travel Technology - What would you do with a 3.9 TB disc?

Yes, that's 39000 GB on a single disc using holographic techniques to store information. The information us stored in interference pattern of two laser beams. The discs are christened HVD, Holographic Versatile Disc. These discs wll have a transfer rate of 1GB/sec.
I can't think of any reason why I would want one. But who knows wat the future holds? My first PC at work had a 40 Meg hard drive. I can't recall how much memory it had. The first PC I bought had 128 Megs of RAM and a 6.4 GB hard drive. I never filled it. It died and I could n ot find anything that small. I had to buy a 40GB hard drive even though the OS did not support an HD that big. I think the largest size the OS could support was 33 GB. So I ha to partition it.
I bet ScottC is already planning to get one. ;)

Its actually 3,993.6 GB. Much more than I need now

My answer to the question is probably "download lots of porn".

People with a lot of video and high res pictures?

I've downloaded a few movies and in HD they can be as much as 2GB/hr and with my D90 on the HD setting I regularly have .5GB files for movie clips.

Also I have the D90 set for RAW + JPEG and our last family trip was over 24GB of pictures (before clean up)

We have filled about 3/4 of our 1TB drive but have been better at cleaning up older/bad pictures and videos so that will probably go down soon.

if its cheaper than 4 1tb drives id get it...

I still have over 200 5.25" 1.2 megabyte floppies I bought for 49 cents each. Now, THAT was a fantastic deal.

totally depends on price, but I think they will have a great potential for backups. You could backup and keep many old sets of the backups, like every machine in a small to medium sized office, and have one disk with the data off site someplace.

My first PC had a 20 meg hard drive, that was a huge upgrade from the dual floppies.

I mean look at how many people are copying single files to a dvd and closing them, leaving 99% of the disk empty just to bring something home or whatever. Probably for the most part, these disks, again if priced low enough, will be the same thing.

I could use something like that. I currently have two 1-terabyte RAID NAS on my home LAN (total - 2 terabytes of storage) and each is about 3/4 full. I store my entire life on them - everything I've ever downloaded, documents, pictures, etc. I also use them for video storage. A Blu-Ray disk alone can take up to 50 gigabytes, so, as far as I'm concerned, the more cheap storage the better.

I would not use for backups unless there is some improvement to Bit Error Rate (BER) of HVD vs. SATA, SAS, or STK T10k, either in the media itself, or in increased use of data integrity mechanisms.

Backups!

Its actually 3,993.6 GB. Much more than I need now

My bad, out an extra zero. It's nominally 3900 GB.

My bad, out an extra zero. It's nominally 3900 GB.

a real GB or a HD manufacturers fake GB? :D

if its cheaper than 4 1tb drives id get it...

But the reader /writer won't be cheap at first.

a real GB or a HD manufacturers fake GB? :D

Nominal. You do know wahat I mean. Right?

I remember professors doing research on 3 dimension storage when I was in school, many moons ago - I always wondered why it never got to market.

I, too, remember my 512KB Mac, then the whopping 4MB Plus, and my first 40MB hard drive. I'm sure 4TB will seem like the cost of entry in 15 years, though I can't currently fathom what will consume that amount of space. I suppose full 920x1080p/60fps video will suck up a lot. We'll probably have that streaming from our cell phones in a decade.

I already have a couple of TB around the house in various primary/secondary/backup/secondary backup.

People that do a lot of HD video editing could use both the space the the speed of the drive.

I bet ScottC is already planning to get one. ;)

Scotty already has one of these suckers as a 'custom modification' on his CellPhone/PDA... :eek: :p :D

I just did that HD on my YouTube.. it really wasn't that bad, but the video wasn't in RAW format. My Panasonic DMC-FX500 did the video in 720p and I could easily fit that in my small 60GB hard drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB6H_lp1ew4

As cameras get more sophisticated, that video quality would be unimpressive in a couple years from now. I wonder if YouTube's going to be able to handle that massive bandwidth.

Assuming most Blu-Ray rips are going to be about 25GB, that's only room for ~1600 rips (uncompressed). Most people I know have movie collections larger than that.

Ooops.... it's full already! ;)

But the reader /writer won't be cheap at first.

then i would buy 4 1tb drives and wait for the price to get lower...

I'd need one and a bit to copy all my other HD stuff onto. Then again, one would need twice as many in order to have a backup, because it could not "nicely" be backed up anywhere else (1000 DVD's? 4x1 TB drives???)

Have it operated on and hope & pray that all went well ^

The media's probably gonna be scary expensive ;).

The media's probably gonna be scary expensive ;).

Media is not expected to be terribly expensive ubless you think $80-100 terribly expensive. The price will go down as time goes on. The reader is expected to cost upwards of $15000. :o

Media is not expected to be terribly expensive ubless you think $80-100 terribly expensive. The price will go down as time goes on. The reader is expected to cost upwards of $15000. :o

:eek:

Granted give it 10 years and it might be the next Blue Ray :cool:

...or it could go the path of laserdisc :eek:

Yes, that's 39000 GB on a single disc using holographic techniques to store information. The information us stored in interference pattern of two laser beams. The discs are christened HVD, Holographic Versatile Disc. These discs wll have a transfer rate of 1GB/sec.
I can't think of any reason why I would want one. But who knows wat the future holds? My first PC at work had a 40 Meg hard drive. I can't recall how much memory it had. The first PC I bought had 128 Megs of RAM and a 6.4 GB hard drive. I never filled it. It died and I could n ot find anything that small. I had to buy a 40GB hard drive even though the OS did not support an HD that big. I think the largest size the OS could support was 33 GB. So I ha to partition it.
I bet ScottC is already planning to get one. ;)

We just bought something like 100 TB of drives and are trying to get about 2 petabytes more. We are generating something like 8 TB with some single experiments and we could be averaging something like 10-20 TB per day soon. We need them to clear old data from the hard drives.

I could use the capacity and particularly the throughput now. It will take a while before its pricing goes down to $100/TB. Just read a spam email from buy dot com that 1TB ext hard drive (with eSATA & USB) was priced at $89 after rebate!

We just bought something like 100 TB of drives and are trying to get about 2 petabytes more. We are generating something like 8 TB with some single experiments and we could be averaging something like 10-20 TB per day soon. We need them to clear old data from the hard drives.
When you are collecting data for research, your requirements are very different from those of individuals.
What kind of data are you collecting?

When you are collecting data for research, your requirements are very different from those of individuals.
What kind of data are you collecting?

DNA sequencer raw and processed data.

We had an IBM Dolphin (I think it was called) at my former employers that had about 1TB of storage on it about 7 years ago, at the time that was considered huge and we still managed to fill that. Personally if they could get one into a laptop, I'd use it to put my DVD collection onto a couple (or more depending on how big the collection gets) of discs and then take the laptop travelling with me.

I own about 1500 CD and would love to get them ALL in FLAC and access from my Squeezebox. Ditto for my DVDs. The more capacity the better.

We had an IBM Dolphin (I think it was called) at my former employers that had about 1TB of storage on it about 7 years ago, at the time that was considered huge and we still managed to fill that. Personally if they could get one into a laptop, I'd use it to put my DVD collection onto a couple (or more depending on how big the collection gets) of discs and then take the laptop travelling with me.I picked up a 500-gig Western Digital MyDrive (or something like that) for around $100. It doesn't hold my entire DVD collection, but it can hold 100 movies.

I own about 1500 CD and would love to get them ALL in FLAC and access from my Squeezebox. Ditto for my DVDs. The more capacity the better.

Yeah. There's no such thing as too much disk space.

I picked up a 500-gig Western Digital MyDrive (or something like that) for around $100. It doesn't hold my entire DVD collection, but it can hold 100 movies. I could live with that, although the idea of taking 1 disk away that had the movies on it, 1 that had the music etc. sounds really funky. And the catalogue that I'm reading right now has a WD 1TB MyBook (which is I suspect what you were refering to) for £170which sounds interesting, althou will have to wait for budget conditions to ease a bit.

I could live with that, although the idea of taking 1 disk away that had the movies on it, 1 that had the music etc. sounds really funky. And the catalogue that I'm reading right now has a WD 1TB MyBook (which is I suspect what you were refering to) for £170which sounds interesting, althou will have to wait for budget conditions to ease a bit.The MyBooks are very large and require a separate power supply. What I have is the MyPassport Essential, which is about the size of a deck of playing cards and is USB-powered:


http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/090/209225090.jpg

Buy.com has this one for $117 US.

http://www.buy.com/prod/western-digital-500gb-my-passport-essential-usb-2-0-portable-hard-drive/q/loc/101/209225090.html

B&H, which I know ships to Europe and the UK, has it for $119.99 US.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/581061-REG/Western_Digital_WDME5000TN_500GB_My_Passport_Essen tial.html

By the way, they come in a variety of colors which, for some reason, are priced differently. You might find a "less desirable" color for even less.

uggh, 1.5 TB external Seagate's have been retailing on sale for under $150 for many months now, internals can be had for $120.

uggh, 1.5 TB external Seagate's have been retailing on sale for under $150 for many months now, internals can be had for $120.Not small, portable USB-powered ones.

Boast

Not small, portable USB-powered ones.

Right. I have a stack of those Passport drives. I have a personal one for music etc and a work one for supplementing my MB Air and containing work documents when I travel. I have several older ones too, with backups, photos, Lightroom files etc. I have been very happy with them.

Right. I have a stack of those Passport drives. I have a personal one for music etc and a work one for supplementing my MB Air and containing work documents when I travel. I have several older ones too, with backups, photos, Lightroom files etc. I have been very happy with them.
I've got three of them and, as soon as the 500gb one goes on sale again, I'll get more. I carry two with me. One contains a complete backup of my laptop (which has a 320gb internal drive). As my laptop contains OEM Vista and I have no way to repair a corrupt system file, the backup gives me a way around system restore, in case I don't have restore points going back far enough. The other drive contains all my documents, serial numbers and downloaded software. That's also the one that I put movies on. These little drives are terrific!

I have several WD Passports, and they were my fave (80GB, 160GB, 250GB, 320GB) however I find that I now prefer the Seagate 500GB portables, not least because they were always on sale for $5 less, and up until recently one got the free dock and the nice leather case. I generally travel with two of these and have assigned the WD's to other tasks....

Backups of photos and media of course!

And still multiple copies to be safe.

... and and offsite copy too ;)


My current storage:
Small Portable: 16gb Sandisk Cruzer
Portable with a reader: GigaOne 40gb
Portable: Segate FreeAgentGo 250gb (I had about 1Gb space left on the laptop and 5Gb on the GigaOne - I was desperate at the time)
Home: 1 x Maxtor Basics 1TB (which I am going to rip appart at it is sluggish) and a Maxtor 500GB OneTouch (a nice fast performer)

If I had the money, I'd get an LTO4, a spare media library, a 6TB RAID6 and be done with it completely...

The MyBooks are very large and require a separate power supply. What I have is the MyPassport Essential, which is about the size of a deck of playing cards and is USB-powered:


http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/090/209225090.jpg

Buy.com has this one for $117 US.

http://www.buy.com/prod/western-digital-500gb-my-passport-essential-usb-2-0-portable-hard-drive/q/loc/101/209225090.html

B&H, which I know ships to Europe and the UK, has it for $119.99 US.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/581061-REG/Western_Digital_WDME5000TN_500GB_My_Passport_Essen tial.html

By the way, they come in a variety of colors which, for some reason, are priced differently. You might find a "less desirable" color for even less.
Do these heat up and suffer as a result? We used a Lacie drive at work (can't remember the size) and it blew thanks to the thing getting too hot, IT said that they couldn't do a thing with it and that "we did have backups right?" I may be doing some shopping for one of those passport jobs and in fact they are listed in the same catalogue as the others I've just noticed. or I might pick one up whilst next stateside.