JetBlue TrueBlue - JetBlue announces BWI-BOS & JFK-BGI flights




LoneStarMike
Apr 22, 09, 10:56 pm
From the Boston Globe:

JetBlue adds flights to Baltimore-D.C. area
Plan could ignite fare wars between discount carriers at Logan (http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2009/04/23/jetblue_adds_flights_to_baltimore_dc_area/)

Let the fare wars begin.


Seat13c
Apr 22, 09, 11:19 pm
We can't really say that JetBlue has announced the new service since, well, they really haven't done so officially nor has BWI. So, either they are just looking into it or the Boston Globe is leaking the info a little too early.

It just seems odd they would start up BOS-BWI when are so many other seemingly more profitable place to look at in the lower 48 that aren't served yet (i.e. PHL, ACY, DAL/DFW, OMA, MCI, and STL) and not to metion existing stations that could really be developed even further (i.e. LAS, PDX, PHX, SEA, SLC, IAD, and, as an east-west hub - AUS).

BWI just seems, like mentioned in the article, way too saturated with FL and WN.

If this is coming to fruition, they're gunna have to go other stations to make this work. But, which ones?

N830MH
Apr 22, 09, 11:21 pm
Yep, sure they are. It would be very tougher competitive with WN, DL, US, FL. So B6 will expected to have announcement by tomorrow and also you forget 1 more thing for you. B6 will have announce new route for JFK-BGI. I bet that we're exciting to hear more new station is opened it up in BWI. Why B6 doesn't have go to JFK-BWI? I think it would be built-up more potential new route coming.


LoneStarMike
Apr 22, 09, 11:31 pm
We can't really say that JetBlue has announced the new service since, well, they really haven't done so officially nor has BWI.

True, there's no press release yet, but the article quoted a jetBlue spokesman:

"Baltimore will be our 32nd city from Boston," said Sebastian White, a company spokesman, in a statement. "And in a nod to the growing importance of Boston, it will be a city served only from Boston."

N830MH
Apr 22, 09, 11:37 pm
True, there's no press release yet, but the article quoted a jetBlue spokesman:

Yeah, you have wait for tomorrow morning to gets officially news releases. I will read it whole news article from B6. So is that very tougher competitive with WN & FL and DL are already existing service for BOS-BWI. As you know B6 are looking for another new transcons route BWI-LAX/LGB/SFO/OAK or anywhere else.

MrPresident1776
Apr 22, 09, 11:57 pm
I bet you'll see Delta gone in a flash from this route. It does seem a little weird though. I guess Caribbean flights aren't that well developed from BWI. And transcons are in need of competition.
Here's what one might see sometime down the road.
For transcons:Los Angeles, San Francsico, Seattle
And for winter: Cancun, Fort Lauderdale, Montego Bay, Nassau, Orlando and San Juan

Great that they're adding Bridgetown!

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 12:06 am
I bet you'll see Delta gone in a flash from this route. It does seem a little weird though. I guess Caribbean flights aren't that well developed from BWI. And transcons are in need of competition.
Here's what one might see sometime down the road.
For transcons:Los Angeles, San Francsico, Seattle
And for winter: Cancun, Fort Lauderdale, Montego Bay, Nassau, Orlando and San Juan

Great that they're adding Bridgetown!

I think its great addition more new Caribbean route JFK-BGI. Hopefully someday in the future where B6 are looking for BWI-FLL/CUN/MBJ/NAS/MCO/SJU & transcons flight for BWI-SEA/SFO/OAK/SEA/SAN. It is good possibility where B6 will become focus cities in BWI is an great opportunity.

Now, we need more expandable new Caribbean route for KIN, UVF, GCM, STT, STX, FPO.

caphis
Apr 23, 09, 12:18 am
Why B6 doesn't have go to JFK-BWI? I think it would be built-up more potential new route coming.

There are a few reasons why JFK-BWI wouldn't work as well as BOS-BWI. For starters, it's a high competition market. Not only with other airlines, but with train service, buses, and cars. Baltimore is a 3 hour drive to the NY metro area, and when you factor in airport time, block time, in flight time, and commute time into the city, that could be well over 3 hours.

Delta serves BWI-JFK already (and AA does a roundtrip), Continental serves BWI-EWR, and US serves BWI-LGA (and soon, WN) (all on CRJs, mind you), but I doubt they're playing for O&D numbers. I think DL, CO, and US are mainly looking to connect BWI traffic elsewhere on their network through NYC; WN probably seeks to do the same through BWI from LGA. It doesn't hurt that there's some O&D traffic on the route as well, but I don't have those numbers (someone else can probably find them from the DOT). Still, it can't be much.

Factor in some existing overcrowding problems at JFK, and I don't think JFK-BWI would be as successful as BOS-BWI has potential to be.

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 12:23 am
Factor in some existing overcrowding problems at JFK, and I don't think JFK-BWI would be as successful as BOS-BWI has potential to be.

Ah, I see. That's why it was very extremely overcrowded are already existing service for EWR/LGA/JFK-BWI but, they doesn't want to bring more route for JFK-BWI. I think it would kept some of few airlines are already still in service to Washington, DC. So however, we don't want to bring more flights for this time but, its might to be cause lot of problems in NYC areas.

dinosims
Apr 23, 09, 12:47 am
We can't really say that JetBlue has announced the new service since, well, they really haven't done so officially nor has BWI. So, either they are just looking into it or the Boston Globe is leaking the info a little too early.


I think the Boston Globe has released things like this before the actual press releases later that day. Are newspapers allowed to do that? Do they not know that people stay up late?

As for the actual route, I'm not sure if I agree with it or not. On the one hand, it's going to be an absolute massacre for fares - 3 LCCs (B6, WN, FL) and probably some of the mainline carriers also (not really sure, and too lazy to look it up right now), as well as stealing passengers from their BOS-IAD route, although one could argue that since they're pretty far away, it might not. On the other hand, they're definitely trying to defend their territory against WN's announcements to enter BOS and LGA, although I'm not so sure it's good to be so territorial strategically.

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 1:12 am
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/04/02/324668/jetblue-eyes-two-additional-destinations-in-2009.html

jetBlueNYFL
Apr 23, 09, 1:17 am
BWI is on the Where We Jet page and searchable in the booking process, but schedules not yet loaded...

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 1:40 am
BWI is on the Where We Jet page and searchable in the booking process, but schedules not yet loaded...

Not yet. It should wait for official news release by tomorrow morning. You can posts it for me. I will be awake around 10 or 10:30am. So however, please have to put the news article releases by tomorrow on this thread. Thank you for your understanding. :)

JetBlueFA
Apr 23, 09, 6:49 am
A new city and 1Q profit, today's a good day to be blue!

sfozrhfco
Apr 23, 09, 7:39 am
I wonder how long DL will stick it out on the BOS-BWI route. Contracted minijet flying at very low yields equals more big losses for DL's domestic network. They will definitely have the weakest product--plus charge to check baggage too.

sfozrhfco
Apr 23, 09, 9:14 am
Barbados will be served from JFK starting in October pending government approval.

Seat13c
Apr 23, 09, 9:48 am
Both have been announced by JetBlue just a few minutes ago. (link (http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131045&p=irol-news&nyo=0))

JetBlueFA
Apr 23, 09, 10:52 am
BOS-BWI (effective Sept. 9)
6:35 a.m. – 8:03 a.m.
10:50 a.m. – 12:16 p.m.
3:45 p.m. – 5:16 p.m.
7:00 p.m. – 8:33 p.m.

BWI-BOS
8:40 a.m. – 10:04 a.m.
12:55 p.m. – 2:23 p.m.
5:55 p.m. – 7:26 p.m.
9:15 p.m. – 10:40 p.m.

dieuwer2
Apr 23, 09, 11:32 am
Seems like BOS is popular these days. Why the sudden deluge of flights out of this city?

Seat13c
Apr 23, 09, 11:35 am
Seems like BOS is popular these days. Why the sudden deluge of flights out of this city?

JetBlue made BOS work. Jealousy?

JetBlueFA
Apr 23, 09, 11:49 am
It's going to get a lot bigger! Too bad I won't be there to see it lol

sbm12
Apr 23, 09, 12:29 pm
Barbados will be served from JFK starting in October pending government approval.

Well, BWIA (what are they called these days??) hasn't ever really been particularly stable so my guess is that jetBlue has a great opportunity in this market. Plus, they get to keep growing out the Caribbean network where there are higher yields and less competition than the domestic US transcon market. Good news all around.

jtrain351209
Apr 23, 09, 12:32 pm
To tell you the truth, I am frankly a little surprised that B6 added BWI-BOS, especially just a few weeks after WN announced this same route. the BWI-BOS route is now so saturated with LCC's (not that im complaning ;)), but it doesn't seem to make sense from a business point of view. The only way that this makes sense is that B6 could be trying to lure people from the MD suburbs of DC, who wouldn't drive all the way to IAD. But with that said, I believe B6 would have been better served adding a new city somewhere in the midwest (DTW, CLE, CVG) or the south (ATL), two areas that they are not particularly well served in.

Mr. Vker
Apr 23, 09, 1:06 pm
We need them to fly to Florida and JFK from BWI. I need their Carribean connections. Right now we are driving to IAD to catch a flight.

JetBlueFA
Apr 23, 09, 1:36 pm
I don't think you will see JFK but there is a great possibility that you will see Florida (MCO, TPA, FLL) and such in the future from BWI.

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 1:49 pm
This is official news releases from B6 will inauguration for JFK-BGI:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/JetBlue-Airways-Announces-prnews-15011451.html?.v=1

BOS-BWI:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/JetBlue-to-Offer-Flights-from-prnews-15011667.html?.v=1

Hope this is your help for real press releases from B6. Thanks all.

Regards

PS. I was right about new route for JFK-BGI, doesn't it?

Mr. Vker
Apr 23, 09, 2:00 pm
I don't think you will see JFK but there is a great possibility that you will see Florida (MCO, TPA, FLL) and such in the future from BWI.

Thats too bad. At least we might be able to get to Costa Rica.

ellinj
Apr 23, 09, 9:14 pm
Hopefully they can build up BWI so that they can move some of the hub traffic away from JFK. I am suprised that they are utilizing IAD more either.

N830MH
Apr 23, 09, 10:04 pm
Hopefully they can build up BWI so that they can move some of the hub traffic away from JFK. I am suprised that they are utilizing IAD more either.

Yeah, I can see more potential new route for BWI-FLL/MCO/TPA/JAX/RSW and transcons flight for BWI-LAX/SFO/OAK/SEA/SAN/SJC/SMF. It might to keep away from JFK traffic due to extremely overcrowded in NYC areas. This is better way where B6 will keep away from JFK due to less congestion and this is slots restrictions.



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