El Al Matmid - El Al pilot jettisons passenger luggage to let airline employees fly

This story should be of no surprise to any of us who regularly fly LY.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1069148.html

Remember, its not just an airline, it's Israel!

This story should be of no surprise to any of us who regularly fly LY.

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Remember, its not just an airline, it's Israel!

It would help improve things enormously if as many of us as possible write to Hayim Romano expressing our utter disgust at such actions. As long as nobody makes any noise, these things can carry on. In times such as these, when airlines are feeling the sharp reduction in passenger yields caused by the global recession, passenger feedback can have a crucial impact on company policy.

This is one more of Zohar Blumenkrantz's stories that I somehow don't buy.

Two weeks ago an El Al captain of a Boeing 757 flying from a European destination to Israel ordered the removal of a number of passengers' suitcases from the plane to allow two El Al employees to get on the flight.

What was the 757 carrying so they had to offset the weight of 2 El Al employees with removing luggage? or how much do these 2 employees weigh?

I dont' see any date or flight number. This guy is out of control.

Sometimes they do carry commercial stuff, so this might be a reason
for the heavy weight...

But hard to believe this is the real reason for leaving the lugage,
Things are calculate a bit different that 500kg to here or to there
are going to be an issue.

I would more worry about the latest incident with the window crack
than someone leaving my lugage, Somehow i dont know if its
EL-AL that start to lower tests, bad luck, old equipment or simply
things are reported better, but too many incidents lately with EL-AL.

(some say most of them are with the new 737 (the window crack at least)).

Thanks,
Eran.

Sometimes they do carry commercial stuff, so this might be a reason
for the heavy weight...

But hard to believe this is the real reason for leaving the lugage,
Things are calculate a bit different that 500kg to here or to there
are going to be an issue.

I would more worry about the latest incident with the window crack
than someone leaving my lugage, Somehow i dont know if its
EL-AL that start to lower tests, bad luck, old equipment or simply
things are reported better, but too many incidents lately with EL-AL.

(some say most of them are with the new 737 (the window crack at least)).

Thanks,
Eran.


A window crack? When?

a window crack? When?


last thursday or friday, there was a report on ynet, that a flight to europe had returned to tlv, due to a window crack in te cockpit

EL-AL that start to lower tests, bad luck, old equipment or simply
things are reported better, but too many incidents lately with EL-AL.


Reported better??? you are joking, right? :D

Ynet, TheMarker and all other news agencies in Israel don't have a single worthy aviation reporter that knows more than you and me about these things. On every flat tire they report a "near death experience" and on every scoop they get (even if it is a fart made by an FA) they report a miracle or "near disaster". Reported better?, I don't think extensive coverage means better coverage, especially when done by such poor journalists.

A window crack? When? Did you really have to qoute the whole post?

well, i cold definitely see this happening.
I was a flight attendant.
I have seen these pilots do this stuff.
There was an incident a few years ago, that a pilot of a 742 to London, decided to be "sick" (while all the pax were onboard) because the ground staff didnt save business class seats for his collegues(other pilots ) enroute to a simulator (or something like that) . All the pax were forced to wait in the a/c for over 3 hours, il they found a replacement.

It would help improve things enormously if as many of us as possible write to Hayim Romano expressing our utter disgust at such actions. As long as nobody makes any noise, these things can carry on. In times such as these, when airlines are feeling the sharp reduction in passenger yields caused by the global recession, passenger feedback can have a crucial impact on company policy.

No point for the hastle....Him and the entire management are not any better. Those things are being tolerated for years and years, obviously they don't seem to care. I never held much from LY management, unfortunately this gets proven by almost every decision they take.

last thursday or friday, there was a report on ynet, that a flight to europe had returned to tlv, due to a window crack in te cockpit

Does anybody have some details about the incident?

Did it happen right after take-off or when the plane was already half way to destination?

does anybody have some details about the incident?

Did it happen right after take-off or when the plane was already half way to destination?


on ynet it said that they returned about a hour after take off

on ynet it said that they returned about a hour after take off

Indeed, I Believe there were already 10k, So it was a right decision to come
back rather continue to destination, you dont know what can happen on
the way that might make it worse...
The big question how this was not detected on the regular check that is
made before every flight... Didnt the pilot saw it before?
Or this might be an "accident" caused during the flight?

Only God (and the pilot) have the answer...


Thanks,
Ebzed..

The big question how this was not detected on the regular check that is made before every flight... Didnt the pilot saw it before?
Or this might be an "accident" caused during the flight?

Only God (and the pilot) have the answer.....


I don't know what G. knows and doesn't know.... I hope El Al "has the answer", and Boeing, since the manufacturer and the civil aviation authority of the concerned country(ies) are supposed to be updated whenever an incident occurs. But this is in theory only; a few years ago, when a 744 was flying too low on approach to London and the pilot had to switch off the auto pilot and re-take altitude, the crew, in violation of international procedures, failed to report the incident to the British civil aviation authority. When they learned about it, it was too late becaue the datas on the plane had been already erased....

All I know is that we NEVER get to know anything about technical incidents happening to El Al planes (just like in the case mentioned above...).